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Rizlax Yazzax
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:01:00 -
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I have seen many posts regarding low ISK rewards from battles, saying only a few deaths negates any chance of profit. While many people respond to this by saying run cheaper gear, what is the point of spending SP for better gear you can't afford to run?
We can't just bump up the reward for finishing a battle, as AFKs will have even less reason to participate, and active players may be less aggressive as farming from kills will be less necessary.
So what I suggest is active ISK gain for actions in battle, similar to the WP system. I believe it would be best suited to hacking actions only with the ISK payout on a ratio of WP earned (10 WP = 500 ISK or something similar).
The reason I say hacking only is because I think it will encourage team-play and survival time will (should) increase per player, as the ISK incentive will (should) keep action objective oriented, providing safety in numbers.
I'm pretty tired and hope that all makes sense.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1703
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:09:00 -
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Your isk payout is already dependant upon your performance in battle, and various circumstances of that battle. |
Rizlax Yazzax
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:14:00 -
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I always believed it was from the kills only, added to a standard payout, not a general activity thing. Meh like I said, really tired. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
371
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:33:00 -
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The problem is that even just running a 50k isk advanced level suit with advanced modules, a player need only die 2x to break even on a match where they score under 1000wp. At 1500wp the reward allows for 3 deaths and at 2000wp for 4 deaths to break even. Running anything other than Lv1 gear in a pub match and dying more than one time is not profitable at all. Currently the faction battles offer no greater rewards and so we are back at PC battles being the only reason to skill for good gear. AFKers be damned I want to be able to use my advanced gear in a pub match and know that if I do well I will earn my suits. When it takes 3 deaths to reach the top of the kill board with 1500wp a player should be rewarded not punished. When they make over 2000 WP with 3 deaths they should be receiving 400+k isk. I don't care how much stuff they destroy or heal or the number of times people spawn on their uplinks, they have contributed and are at the top of the killboard and should be rewarded appropriately. Earning barely enough for one extra suit is not a reward. The payout system is very broken and needs reworking so that mercs can field somewhat decent gear.
Capitalism and Dust |
8213
Grade No.2
340
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:36:00 -
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I prefer a slighty modified system to the one we have now.
12million ISK for the winning team. 7million for losing team.
Your place in the match is a graduating percentage. (1st- 30%. 2nd -18%. 3rd-7% etc. The last 5 places should be basically worthless)
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12million ISK for the winning team
Add all the WP on the team and hand out ISK towards the percentage you earned
I think its bullsh*t that I can obtain WP the same as the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th person below me combined but only get 50,000 more ISK |
Eskimorris
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
20
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:59:00 -
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plan better. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
397
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:02:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=114366
my rant on what i want to fix this
also their is potential for giving logi's a reason to use higher end gear i.e injectors in pubs |
Rowdy Railgunner
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
EoN.
58
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:27:00 -
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I have 5 all BPO suits. 1 assault, 2 scout and 2 logi. When I use these suits exclusively in battles I net between 180-350k per battle. My most expensive suit costs about 150k+100 AUR. I can never go broke in DUST because even though I use all BPO suits I still finish in the top percent of the room. When I use my expensive suits if I die 3-4 times I switch back to BPOs. Get gud and you won't go broke. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
584
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:33:00 -
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The payouts have gotten worse and worse. My average WP per match and KDR has remained pretty much the same since 1.0 but the amounts keep going down.
I switched from around a 50k suit to 28k because I began to barely break even as the payouts went down. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
403
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:36:00 -
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I'd be happier if the faggots with 400+ ping would stop playing. Being one shotted as a heavy by a shotgun but having to take six shots just to hit and register against a shield is ********. I can take ISK loss, but this is getting intolerable now. |
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Gooby FETUS
TEAM SATISFACTION
3
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:51:00 -
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At least now you don't loose a 130k suit after being gently hit by a freaking car...
Ive been playing with the same 45M ISK for about 2 months, because my suits are expensive and if I die 3 times and kill 30 guys I still loose ISK... |
Roldrage
The Plasma Cannon Doctrine
183
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:57:00 -
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Minimum 300k isk win for winning team? |
GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
75
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:05:00 -
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Just because you know how a Ferrari works doesn't entitles you to have one without paying the price of it.
Will you buy a mansion using loans from the bank that will keep in debt for 30 years and you will still not be able to pay for services required for standard maintenance, based on the fact you know how it incredible it looks.... if so that explains your logic. |
Grand Master Retsof
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:12:00 -
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good thing I don't have y'alls isk problems.... |
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