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Stevez Lau Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2013.10.07 08:41:00 - [61] - Quote low genius wrote: you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve. that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? You are stupid, people will just leave the game at 19 deaths. Less of this crap and more posting about features that we want for the game that don't involve stuff that make the grind even more boring. How about a skill system that makes me still want to play after I am capped?
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 515	Posted - 2013.10.07 09:49:00 - [62] - Quote If you die 20 times then you should remember it's just a stupid game and keep playing for the enjoyment. I'm still not sure how a person's intelligence nor their skill with a joystick is supposed to dictate any f*cking thing in a video game!
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1138	Posted - 2013.10.07 10:19:00 - [63] - Quote After reading this thread I thought ye hell why not awox some faction warfair .... so this morning inwent out in my free suit and tryed all the normal bluberry tactics like running strait at enimy tanks and tgrowing myself infront of heavys whilst spraying and praying ... no matter how hard I tried I coldent get to that 20 death mark as the results from said tactics was a few dead and no doubt pissed of heavys and a few chickenshit tankers who must have thought I had av nades cos the gtf quite quickly ..one of them only had me in my blueprint suit to contend with but no matter how hard intried to rush him like a suicidal lemming he just bolted..... what a sad state this game is in .. when I attempt to awox faction warfair by acting like a **** im still succesfull and going possitive.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1632	Posted - 2013.10.07 10:22:00 - [64] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: After reading this thread I thought ye hell why not awox some faction warfair .... so this morning inwent out in my free suit and tryed all the normal bluberry tactics like running strait at enimy tanks and tgrowing myself infront of heavys whilst spraying and praying ... no matter how hard I tried I coldent get to that 20 death mark as the results from said tactics was a few dead and no doubt pissed of heavys and a few chickenshit tankers who must have thought I had av nades cos the gtf quite quickly ..one of them only had me in my blueprint suit to contend with but no matter how hard intried to rush him like a suicidal lemming he just bolted..... what a sad state this game is in .. when I attempt to awox faction warfair by acting like a **** im still succesfull and going possitive. Is just all that Core Skills that you packing.... Try making a "NEW" alt, lets see how that goes, huh ?
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1138	Posted - 2013.10.07 10:24:00 - [65] - Quote All my suit core skills are are at 3. Not really that much of an advantage.
HYENAKILLER X Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 276	Posted - 2013.10.07 10:25:00 - [66] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: If you die 20 times its because you are the only guy on your team trying to win a skirm/dom match. or your the only guy trying to lose the match. Also true.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1632	Posted - 2013.10.07 10:27:00 - [67] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: All my suit core skills are are at 3. Not really that much of an advantage. I talking by experience, i experiment with new Alts some times, to try different things... and you only realize how much the Core Skills are helping you, when you do that. I may make a new one tomorrow too, to try the new tutorial.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1285	Posted - 2013.10.07 10:46:00 - [68] - Quote lolkdr Kids these days
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 849	Posted - 2013.10.07 11:08:00 - [69] - Quote If you die 20 times, quit spamming scout suits.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 376	Posted - 2013.10.07 11:21:00 - [70] - Quote low genius wrote: Justice Prevails wrote: The elitists of this game are b**ing about blueberries not pushing for objectives. Then they break the blueberries' b*s about dying too much while pushing objectives. Give me a break dude. this is a situation that does not exist. i'm not saying it should be in the next update. i'm curious as to what the community thinks a useless player looks like. among other things. Bottom line. A player who has 0-5% win/loss ratio as it indicates that it is someone who is going out of his way to loose ALL of the time.

Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 382	Posted - 2013.10.07 11:23:00 - [71] - Quote i think if you die 10 times without getting a kill or hugely significant wp you should be auto kicked
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 299	Posted - 2013.10.07 11:23:00 - [72] - Quote low genius wrote: you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve. Vrain Matari wrote: You don't lose skills from being podded in EVE - unless you forgot to update your medical clone. Unless you are flying a T3 strategic cruiser, and you lose it....
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1039	Posted - 2013.10.07 12:23:00 - [73] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: I went quite close to this result once. My final score was 46-18 with an alt character (that I made just to play with cheap gear and have fun without worrying about stats) and it was one of the most intense games I've ever played. Game mode was Domination and the map was the new one with the underground section and the null cannon right down there. A perfect hell. So no, I disagree, I never died that much before, but it actually might happen if you play very aggressively (which I do not with this character)... and even if my KDR was not great, I'm pretty sure my team would have lost without me. It was fun. Suicide trolling is a different story, but who does that? I can't believe someone can have fun suiciding over and over... and over... ... wow, you really must be bored...! This is why i fight against the tiericide faction on the forums - your experience with your alt in pubs, my experience with my totally untrained starter-fit alt in pubs and the experience of many other players proves empirically that the issue is player knowledge and expectations and not skillpoint gap or gear differences. It's not that those things don't make a big difference, but if a player knows what to expect and adjusts their playstyle one realizes that CCP has done a good job balancing the game for sp gap and gear gap. This is why i want CCP to give new players a serious TACTICAL walkthrough of DUST - nobody was asking them to teach noobs how to shoot a gun or run.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 107	Posted - 2013.10.07 12:55:00 - [74] - Quote There should be hazard pay for the traumatized mercs. If you think someone is intentionally killing themselves, report them to CCP. CCP will ban them.
Draemus Acidborne ThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThings 4	Posted - 2013.10.07 13:02:00 - [75] - Quote These kind of idea's are why we can't have nice things.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 344	Posted - 2013.10.07 13:50:00 - [76] - Quote low genius wrote: knight of 6 wrote: low genius wrote: Blake Kingston wrote: Perhaps we should stop talking about clone deaths and talk about kill ratio? Someone going 20/20...tough, that's how it is. so, what's the bottom line? how negative does a guy's kdr have to be before he's not worth having on the battlefield? there is not a bottom line, there is more than one way to make use of yourself on the battlefield. if he dies 50 times but hacks and defends every objective on the map then he is worth it. if he dies resing you so you can go on and fight he's worth it. if he runs around with a rep tool and gets 50 deaths 0 kills but keeps everyone up to full armor he's worth it. their is no magical point when KDR becomes more important than WP. if he dies 50 times he's spawning for 8 minutes. you don't mean that. I mean every word of it, a good logi or objective player is the difference between winning and losing.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 636	Posted - 2013.10.07 14:03:00 - [77] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: low genius wrote: knight of 6 wrote: low genius wrote: Blake Kingston wrote: Perhaps we should stop talking about clone deaths and talk about kill ratio? Someone going 20/20...tough, that's how it is. so, what's the bottom line? how negative does a guy's kdr have to be before he's not worth having on the battlefield? there is not a bottom line, there is more than one way to make use of yourself on the battlefield. if he dies 50 times but hacks and defends every objective on the map then he is worth it. if he dies resing you so you can go on and fight he's worth it. if he runs around with a rep tool and gets 50 deaths 0 kills but keeps everyone up to full armor he's worth it. their is no magical point when KDR becomes more important than WP. if he dies 50 times he's spawning for 8 minutes. you don't mean that. I mean every word of it, a good logi or objective player is the difference between winning and losing. I won't disagree with that, but getting killed 20 times in a match is really hard. 50 times seems impossible to me. maybe it's not, but that sounds like a ludacris number
50LD13R Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.10.07 15:45:00 - [78] - Quote I'd have to say, as a fairly new player, this kind of change would have made me quit early on. Perhaps you forget what it's like trying to learn the ropes when the information on this game exists almost soley on forums. Instead of talk of penalizing "stupid" players, how about you put that 9 months experience to work and help them to be smarter players. If your gripe is really boredom though, because you've run out of skills to put points into... Do you have ideas for new skills? Try letting CCP know, it's easy to ***** about a problem, how about you try to actually solve it. p.s. I just started a Logi and I die a crap-ton, but my WP is always in the top half of the board, because I work for the win, not the KDR!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles 168	Posted - 2013.10.07 15:47:00 - [79] - Quote low genius wrote: you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve. that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? There should be a limit to how many times you can use a militia fitting in a match IMO, It ruins the economy of DUST to have free suit's beyond a point of helping a new player start off DUST. If they want to spend their bank fielding suit's beyond that point its their Isk and they can do what they like... even though it hurt's the team.
CrotchGrab 360 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 252	Posted - 2013.10.07 17:46:00 - [80] - Quote WOW, great mentality OP. If you're a new player and you're bad, get out. This game RELIES on NEW players. Everybody was new once. Get your head out of your arse.

Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 28	Posted - 2013.10.07 18:10:00 - [81] - Quote Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote: if you die 20 times in a match you should be kicked from the game. THATS JUST BS! I sometimes will kill meself 40x just to make my team lose. Spies, gotta love em.
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 28	Posted - 2013.10.07 18:12:00 - [82] - Quote low genius wrote: you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve. that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? Two words: MATCH MAKING On another note, what happens if your the only one fighting? Most times my team will give up, but not me. I fight till its over.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 690	Posted - 2013.10.14 22:55:00 - [83] - Quote I still think you'll have a hard time dying 20 times.
Aria Gomes DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 87	Posted - 2013.10.14 23:06:00 - [84] - Quote Some people might die but have like 15 or 10 kills. It woukdn't make sense to kick them out. Some people are still learning or they're having a bad day/match. They're next match they might go 20/0. Idk I think that would be a bad idea.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 746	Posted - 2013.10.14 23:32:00 - [85] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: i think if you die 10 times without getting a kill or hugely significant wp you should be auto kicked Bravo
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 831	Posted - 2013.10.14 23:37:00 - [86] - Quote Disagree, we are an FPS people die, alot, often 150 deaths for the loosing team! EvE is different, my understanding was it was lost due to poor conscience transfer for the pods! In DUST in won't happen because of our vastly superior inplants! Also it widens the player gap, noobs will never amass enough skill, while "pro" players will get a crutch to rely on!
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1760	Posted - 2013.10.14 23:38:00 - [87] - Quote low genius wrote: you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve. that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? MAybe an ISK penalty would be better. No isk gained at ALL.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 831	Posted - 2013.10.14 23:42:00 - [88] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: low genius wrote: you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve. that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? MAybe an ISK penalty would be better. No isk gained at ALL. Aye that sounds more logical, if you earn lest than 700WP and have KDR less than 0.25 then the match pays no ISK because you didn't fufill your contract to a satisfactory level! Should still pay SP though!
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1766	Posted - 2013.10.15 00:08:00 - [89] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: low genius wrote: you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve. that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? MAybe an ISK penalty would be better. No isk gained at ALL. Aye that sounds more logical, if you earn lest than 700WP and have KDR less than 0.25 then the match pays no ISK because you didn't fufill your contract to a satisfactory level! Should still pay SP though! Pretty much, if you were NOT of any help at all tehn why get payed? you are a mercenary not a goverment official that can do nothing and still get payed. Under 500 WP (so that snipers need AT LEAST 11 kills to get payed) and under 0.25 K-D ratio, then no ISK for you. You should also get a medal with banning Hammers face for increased shame.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 691	Posted - 2013.10.15 02:13:00 - [90] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: low genius wrote: you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve. that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? MAybe an ISK penalty would be better. No isk gained at ALL. I would support an isk penalty per death level. so much for dying 10 times, so much for dying 20 times.



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