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dogmanpig
black market bank
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:18:00 -
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Powerh8er wrote:So what if i kill 0 clones but die 50 times... fixed for you. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:22:00 -
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Perhaps we should stop talking about clone deaths and talk about kill ratio?
Someone going 20/20...tough, that's how it is. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
633
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:30:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:When I am playing objective game types I push the objective with my squad, if there are heavy hitters on the opposing team then it is likely that I will have double digit deaths this does not phase me though as my load out costs about 8k. OP, did your team lose because of getting cloned out and this post is a biproduct of your rage?
Oh would like to add that my squad and I win games by relentlessly pushing the objective. Although there are some situations where you have to realize that you are out matched and play defensively as well
no rage, just curiosity as to what the community feels about this game. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
633
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:31:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:low genius wrote:Baal Roo wrote:The last thing this game needs is making the skill grind even worse. really? we're 9 months in and we're running out of things to skill. there are guys in my corp that are sitting on 3.5m sp just waiting for an update Maybe slow down a bit? I mean, the game has two game modes and 5 maps, I honestly can't comprehend how some of you guys can cap every week with such little content available. I know I'm not even anywhere vaguely close to "running out of things to skill" and the biggest thing that keeps me from playing the game is getting tired of needing to wait for weeks on end just to upgrade a skill by 2% or unlock a a new piece of gear that is only 5% better than the last piece of gear I had. The grind vs. the amount of content in this game is insanely lopsided, to the point of being laughable. Having to play the same 5 maps for 10-15 hours a week, every week, for months on end, just to get a character that can properly compete with those willing to treat the game like a part time job is (IMO) why no one plays anymore.
that's fair. what about in a different game mode? if there were some hardcore gamemode where skillpoints were at stake, would you play it? |
Justice Prevails
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:33:00 -
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The elitists of this game are b****ing about blueberries not pushing for objectives. Then they break the blueberries' b***s about dying too much while pushing objectives. Give me a break dude. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
195
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:34:00 -
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low genius wrote:you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve.
that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? Fine, if you make racial suits cost the same as a weapon to skill in to and actually have proper matchmaking. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
633
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:35:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:Perhaps we should stop talking about clone deaths and talk about kill ratio?
Someone going 20/20...tough, that's how it is.
so, what's the bottom line? how negative does a guy's kdr have to be before he's not worth having on the battlefield? |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1081
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:36:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:low genius wrote:Baal Roo wrote:The last thing this game needs is making the skill grind even worse. really? we're 9 months in and we're running out of things to skill. there are guys in my corp that are sitting on 3.5m sp just waiting for an update Maybe slow down a bit? I mean, the game has two game modes and 5 maps, I honestly can't comprehend how some of you guys can cap every week with such little content available. I know I'm not even anywhere vaguely close to "running out of things to skill" and the biggest thing that keeps me from playing the game is getting tired of needing to wait for weeks on end just to upgrade a skill by 2% or unlock a a new piece of gear that is only 5% better than the last piece of gear I had. The grind vs. the amount of content in this game is insanely lopsided, to the point of being laughable. Having to play the same 5 maps for 10-15 hours a week, every week, for months on end, just to get a character that can properly compete with those willing to treat the game like a part time job is (IMO) why no one plays anymore. Exactly. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
633
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:36:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:low genius wrote:you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve.
that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? Fine, if you make racial suits cost the same as a weapon to skill in to and actually have proper matchmaking.
so, assuming you could dictate who you play against, or at least what level you play against. also if 'major' skills were a standardized sp amount?
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low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
633
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:38:00 -
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Justice Prevails wrote: The elitists of this game are b****ing about blueberries not pushing for objectives. Then they break the blueberries' b***s about dying too much while pushing objectives. Give me a break dude.
this is a situation that does not exist. i'm not saying it should be in the next update. i'm curious as to what the community thinks a useless player looks like. among other things. |
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Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1643
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:40:00 -
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low genius wrote:you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve.
that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree?
I see why you named yourself that now... |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
343
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:41:00 -
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low genius wrote:Blake Kingston wrote:Perhaps we should stop talking about clone deaths and talk about kill ratio?
Someone going 20/20...tough, that's how it is. so, what's the bottom line? how negative does a guy's kdr have to be before he's not worth having on the battlefield? there is not a bottom line, there is more than one way to make use of yourself on the battlefield. if he dies 50 times but hacks and defends every objective on the map then he is worth it. if he dies resing you so you can go on and fight he's worth it. if he runs around with a rep tool and gets 50 deaths 0 kills but keeps everyone up to full armor he's worth it. their is no magical point when KDR becomes more important than WP. |
dogmanpig
black market bank
17
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:42:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:low genius wrote:you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve.
that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? I see why you named yourself that now... my biggest skill is corp at level 1
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Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1643
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:45:00 -
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dogmanpig wrote:Void Echo wrote:low genius wrote:you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve.
that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? I see why you named yourself that now... my biggest skill is corp at level 1 I care why? |
Justice Prevails
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:53:00 -
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low genius wrote:Justice Prevails wrote: The elitists of this game are b****ing about blueberries not pushing for objectives. Then they break the blueberries' b***s about dying too much while pushing objectives. Give me a break dude. this is a situation that does not exist. i'm not saying it should be in the next update. i'm curious as to what the community thinks a useless player looks like. among other things.
Someone not trying at all would be useless. But if your not going to try, why play at all? The only people would be griefers and trolls. When I first started I died 20x a few times because I was too dumb to know when I was beat. My career kdr still suffers. But I learned over time. As long as effort is given, someone cannot be deemed useless. |
Borne Velvalor
BLACK-DRAGON-SOCIETY
14
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:55:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:dogmanpig wrote:Void Echo wrote:low genius wrote:you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve.
that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? I see why you named yourself that now... my biggest skill is corp at level 1 I care why?
You don't. Boy, that was a tough one.
Oh, wait. You meant "I should care, why?" Another tough one. You shouldn't. |
dogmanpig
black market bank
17
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:57:00 -
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might go on and mass suicide soon ish in FW. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
633
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:23:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:low genius wrote:Blake Kingston wrote:Perhaps we should stop talking about clone deaths and talk about kill ratio?
Someone going 20/20...tough, that's how it is. so, what's the bottom line? how negative does a guy's kdr have to be before he's not worth having on the battlefield? there is not a bottom line, there is more than one way to make use of yourself on the battlefield. if he dies 50 times but hacks and defends every objective on the map then he is worth it. if he dies resing you so you can go on and fight he's worth it. if he runs around with a rep tool and gets 50 deaths 0 kills but keeps everyone up to full armor he's worth it. their is no magical point when KDR becomes more important than WP.
if he dies 50 times he's spawning for 8 minutes. you don't mean that. |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
258
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:27:00 -
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Sounds like a T3 suit thing :P |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
495
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:51:00 -
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Death is already discouraged as is since you are using fits that cost ISK to use, adding SP/skill loss to that would be stupid, really stupid.
As other people have already said, punishing people this way for trying your best to win a match is the surest way to kill a game, I would certainly be very pissed if I lost my progress on scout suits and having a bunch of invalid fits because of it.
Your idea is bad and you should feel bad about it. |
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
302
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Posted - 2013.10.07 03:58:00 -
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My reply is simple - Ambush sometimes the computer simply refuses to spawn you in a place where you can even look around before dying, let alone take any preventative action. Should the player be punished for that? admittedly 20 times is largely unheard of but still the game is messed up sometimes. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
633
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Posted - 2013.10.07 04:42:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:My reply is simple - Ambush sometimes the computer simply refuses to spawn you in a place where you can even look around before dying, let alone take any preventative action. Should the player be punished for that? admittedly 20 times is largely unheard of but still the game is messed up sometimes.
ambush is high-sec stuff. what about in low sec? is it a bad idea in a real match? |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
72
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Posted - 2013.10.07 07:04:00 -
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low genius wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:My reply is simple - Ambush sometimes the computer simply refuses to spawn you in a place where you can even look around before dying, let alone take any preventative action. Should the player be punished for that? admittedly 20 times is largely unheard of but still the game is messed up sometimes. ambush is high-sec stuff. what about in low sec? is it a bad idea in a real match?
It's a bad idea all around. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
628
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Posted - 2013.10.07 07:12:00 -
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low genius wrote:you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve.
that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? if someone posts such stupid ideas, he should get his account deleted
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
658
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Posted - 2013.10.07 07:52:00 -
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low genius wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:You don't lose skills from being podded in EVE - unless you forgot to update your medical clone. that's certainly not the only way to lose skillpoints in eve.
The otherway is getting killed in a Tech III Tactical cruiser where when you loose your biggest skill of said cruiser, it takes 4 days to get it back.
And thats the only way to loose SP, while having an updated clone, that said i would really like a Tech III suit here on the ground and loose SP if it meant dying in it, though going 150-0 in one would not be really hard either. |
dogmanpig
black market bank
17
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:01:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:low genius wrote:you should lose your biggest skill. just as being podded in eve.
that's my opinion. anyone agree or disagree? if someone posts such stupid ideas, he should get his account deleted good idea, lets start with yours. |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z
241
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:08:00 -
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low genius wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Ohhh, i see where all the stupid ideas are coming from now ....
Only in EvE anyone will think this is a "good" idea.
EvE forums ;
- So, guys, how can we **** Dust 514 even more ? Any suggestions ? this is more of a 'can we get people to play a little smarter?' kind of a thread. I started playing eve because they announced dust. you dont want to make the game harder, we already have next to no players, if your team sucks then man the **** up and carry them |
dogmanpig
black market bank
17
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:10:00 -
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low genius wrote:knight of 6 wrote:low genius wrote:Blake Kingston wrote:Perhaps we should stop talking about clone deaths and talk about kill ratio?
Someone going 20/20...tough, that's how it is. so, what's the bottom line? how negative does a guy's kdr have to be before he's not worth having on the battlefield? there is not a bottom line, there is more than one way to make use of yourself on the battlefield. if he dies 50 times but hacks and defends every objective on the map then he is worth it. if he dies resing you so you can go on and fight he's worth it. if he runs around with a rep tool and gets 50 deaths 0 kills but keeps everyone up to full armor he's worth it. their is no magical point when KDR becomes more important than WP. if he dies 50 times he's spawning for 8 minutes. you don't mean that. or was caught up in with a booster and got revived for the other side to farm kills for 2minutes |
HYENAKILLER X
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
276
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:19:00 -
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If you die 20 times its because you are the only guy on your team trying to win a skirm/dom match. |
dogmanpig
black market bank
17
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Posted - 2013.10.07 08:21:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:If you die 20 times its because you are the only guy on your team trying to win a skirm/dom match. or your the only guy trying to lose the match. |
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