TBH the ranges in this game is far longer than another shooter i've played.

TBH the ranges in this game is far longer than another shooter i've played.

The problem IS NOT THE WEAPON ranges.

The PROBLEM IS=
The maps are freakn ENOURMOUS, they were created for 32 v 32 player battles and heavy vehicle support,but when you think that there are around 10 players on each side and need to run 600mts to another objective then it feels like you are running Paint ball guns....

No. (did you really just say that shotty's should shoot 50 meters at optimal? You've lost your mind?)

Guns that have super long ranges like this are much less accurate than the ones we have.

In Dust, you can run, jump, dodge, all while aiming down the sights...and still land 100% of your bullets as long as the sight is on the enemy. Then again, this only applies to the AR.

If you want super long ranges like this, I'm perfectly fine with that, but our guns need to have a ton more spread. This is something that needs to be fixed with the AR; it has no spread when ADS.

Have you ever played Halo? You know the original one with the AR that you can't ADS with? Imagine if the automatic weapons in this game were like that. You can shoot across the map if you want and still hit players, but the amount of bullets that actually hit that player will be very minimal.

OP with that shotgun range and range in general of all the weapons i do have to question your knowledge in metrics...

swarms 3000? GTFO like DS need tht or tanks. i mean tht's 3 map lengths. mostly XD

No matter how hard I try, with every infantry weapon, except the sniper rifles and forge guns, I just feel like we're playing paint ball because of the short ranges of the weapons.

Now I know that for the ranges I'm about to suggest, CCP will have to make a major fix on rendering distance and open the maps out, among other adjustments, so even if this were favored, I have my doubts it'll happen. Also, I'm sure a portion of the player base who believe all weapons should be CQC will QQ.

Weapon: Optimal/Maximum range in meters.

Flaylock Pistols: 30*
Scrambler Pistols: 40/60
Submachine Guns: 80/150

Assault Rifles: 350/550
Sniper Rifles: 1050/1500
SWARM Launchers: 3000
Mass Drivers: 300*
Laser Rifles: 350-560/715
Shotguns: 50/100**
Scrambler Rifles: 420/605
Plasma Cannons: 750*

Forge Guns: 900/2400
Heavy Machine Guns: 800/1500

*Fired ordinance is a self contained explosive. Damage will be the same at all ranges. Therefore optimal and maximum range is the same.
**This is the damage rate of an individual projectile from the shotgun not an implication that every projectile from a single shot should hit the target at stated range.

Let the debate, trolling, and QQ begin!

TBH the ranges in this game is far longer than another shooter i've played.

submachine guns are going to hit at 450 feet? that's all I needed to read.

LOL NO

That's because Dust isn't supposed to be 100% about infantry combat. We should be seeing more dropships ferrying troops while laying down covering fire, tanks decimating everything in their path, and convoys of LAVs pulling futuristic driveby shootings with all of the above in spider tanking formations. Instead we get these big maps and vehicles that nobody wants to use thanks to forum warrioring and QQ kittens looking for a F2P CoD.

I like it, though people aren't taking weapon dispersion into consideration...

Still no. Those ranges are way too far. We aren't trying to snipe at each other ( your saying ranges in which covers objective to objective, some even longer. 3km ranged Swarms? Never will happen, ever.).

No. (did you really just say that shotty's should shoot 50 meters at optimal? You've lost your mind?)

TBH the ranges in this game is far longer than another shooter i've played.

No matter how hard I try, with every infantry weapon, except the sniper rifles and forge guns, I just feel like we're playing paint ball because of the short ranges of the weapons.

Now I know that for the ranges I'm about to suggest, CCP will have to make a major fix on rendering distance and open the maps out, among other adjustments, so even if this were favored, I have my doubts it'll happen. Also, I'm sure a portion of the player base who believe all weapons should be CQC will QQ.

Weapon: Optimal/Maximum range in meters.

Flaylock Pistols: 30*
Scrambler Pistols: 40/60
Submachine Guns: 80/150**

Assault Rifles: 350/550
Sniper Rifles: 1050/1500
SWARM Launchers: 3000
Mass Drivers: 300*
Laser Rifles: 350-560/715
Shotguns: 50/100**
Scrambler Rifles: 420/605
Plasma Cannons: 750*

Forge Guns: 900/2400
Heavy Machine Guns: 800/1500**

*Fired ordinance is a self contained explosive. Damage will be the same at all ranges. Therefore optimal and maximum range is the same.
**This is the damage rate of an individual projectile from the weapon not an implication that dispersion should be reduced to enable every projectile to hit the target at stated range.

Let the debate, trolling, and QQ begin!

maybe try not being a redline carebear?

No matter how hard I try, with every infantry weapon, except the sniper rifles and forge guns, I just feel like we're playing paint ball because of the short ranges of the weapons.

Now I know that for the ranges I'm about to suggest, CCP will have to make a major fix on rendering distance and open the maps out, among other adjustments, so even if this were favored, I have my doubts it'll happen. Also, I'm sure a portion of the player base who believe all weapons should be CQC will QQ.

Weapon: Optimal/Maximum range in meters.

Flaylock Pistols: 30*
Scrambler Pistols: 40/60
Submachine Guns: 80/150**

Assault Rifles: 350/550
Sniper Rifles: 1050/1500
SWARM Launchers: 3000
Mass Drivers: 300*
Laser Rifles: 350-560/715
Shotguns: 50/100**
Scrambler Rifles: 420/605
Plasma Cannons: 750*

Forge Guns: 900/2400
Heavy Machine Guns: 800/1500**

*Fired ordinance is a self contained explosive. Damage will be the same at all ranges. Therefore optimal and maximum range is the same.
**This is the damage rate of an individual projectile from the weapon not an implication that dispersion should be reduced to enable every projectile to hit the target at stated range.

Let the debate, trolling, and QQ begin!

I think RAnges NEED to stay short since the Maps are WAY to OPEN.

If a RANGE in weapons would occur, then a Heavy increase in COVER for infantry PER MAP would be at hand...

Just imagine THE REDLINED BERRIES not being able to even show their faces ''550 mts'' behind the red line because a guy with a DUVOLLE will kill their ass... hmhmm...
AND I HEAVILY OPPOSE making maps bigger. As it is,except for vehicle Drivers, having to RUN 400-600mts to an objective is just madness...

One of the biggest mistakes CCP ever made was putting distance in a unit we can easily compare/understand.

I say this because this issue comes up a lot. People bring up GÇ£realism" blah blah and don't realize gameplay is more important than realism. Should of put all ranges in shaktars that way people stop the complaining.

If it makes you feel any better just start adding zeros, range of ARs is now 800m, shotguns 70m etc. Then we are playing on absolutely huge maps in gigantic 60m tall suits running 80m+ per sec because...it's the future.

Militia LAV/Dropship or a pilot team mate is the solution to that issue. This game is more about teamwork than lone wolfing.