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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:11:00 -
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From the 1.5 WP Rewards DEV Blog - "WhatGÇÖs next for War Points? When we do our next pass on them we would like to focus on some more combat oriented rewards. An example would be taking out an enemy that is attacking a team mate or taking revenge for a fallen comrade. We would also like to integrate some of these rewards in to squad play to provide bonuses if you helped your squad mates specifically."
Good to hear, and those are some obvious but great examples. I would like to see the following:
Revenge - Kill an enemy that downed a squad (not team) member (within x seconds of them being downed).
Humiliation - Kill x enemies in a row (within x seconds of first kill).
Saviour - Kill an enemy that's attacking a squad mate.
*Santa's Little Helper - x assists in a game (can be an end of battle reward).
*Superhuman - Kill streak of x kills.
*Perseverance - Death streak of x deaths (for the newbros getting pub/proto-stomped).
Squad (Kill) Assist - Self explanatory, a slightly higher reward than a normal kill assist, say 35 like a "vehicle kill assist".
*Squad Medic - Revive x squad members.
*Squad Maintenance - Repair a total of x HP (squad infantry/vehicles?).
Objective Defense - Kill an enemy that's hacking a friendly objective.
Objective Offense - Kill an enemy that's counter-hacking a contested objective.
* = cumulative rewards
I can think of many more complex rewards with multiple conditions but it's best to keep them simple for now. I think adding more squad oriented WP rewards will encourage more tight squad play, but newbros need to be aware of this or they will likely still run solo. WP tutorial?
NOTE: The names are just placeholders. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:53:00 -
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Too slow- Killed an enemy during their reload |
Synbot
Expert Intervention Caldari State
221
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:15:00 -
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Bloodthirsty - +5 for every kill within 5 seconds after the next. For instance 1 bloodthirsty kill = 55 WP, 2 = 60 WP, 3 65 WP, etc. (Orbitals will be exempt from this) |
Talos Vagheitan
King Slayers
50
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:23:00 -
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Those are all good ideas.
One issue that needs to addressed first however is the factor of accumulative SP and the way that effects OB's now.
We don't want SP to snowball even further for the good players/squads in the game and increase the WP inequality gap between the top and bottom of the scoreboards. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1070
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:39:00 -
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Heated Up-Killed an enemy during his overheat.
Nice ideas.
Add a little flavor to an otherwise boring game of shooting and having a plus 50 appear on the screen. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.05 17:02:00 -
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\o/ These are all great ideas, but unfortunately I can't think of any at the moment, as I am not creative...... |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.05 21:50:00 -
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While I do like all the listed ideas I'd like to point out that some of these are just-for-fun rewards and could be overlooked in favour of more team-beneficial rewards and rewards for skill.
For example, "Too Slow" and "Heated Up" both reward you for killing enemies that are at a disadvantage, which is not exactly a show of skill and only benefits the team as much as the clone loss hurts the enemy which is no different than a normal kill.
Also, "Revenge", "Humiliation" and "Superhuman" are all rewards for skill in combat, but meeting the requirements for these rewards provides no extra benefit to the team other than enemy clone loss (as with previous example).
Just saying, if CCP want to focus on squad-play for the next set of rewards they might steer away from these kinds of rewards. They do say they want to also focus on combat rewards though so the second set of examples (and the like) may still be viable. |
Ras Orloc
Bloody Palm Militia
10
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Posted - 2013.10.05 21:52:00 -
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Yeah, more combat rewards FTW! |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.05 21:52:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:While I do like all the listed ideas I'd like to point out that some of these are just-for-fun rewards and could be overlooked in favour of more team-beneficial rewards and rewards for skill.
For example, "Too Slow" and "Heated Up" both reward you for killing enemies that are at a disadvantage, which is not exactly a show of skill and only benefits the team as much as the clone loss hurts the enemy which is no different than a normal kill.
Also, "Revenge", "Humiliation" and "Superhuman" are all rewards for skill in combat, but meeting the requirements for these rewards provides no extra benefit to the team other than enemy clone loss (as with previous example).
Just saying, if CCP want to focus on squad-play for the next set of rewards they might steer away from these kinds of rewards. They do say they want to also focus on combat rewards though so the second set of examples (and the like) may still be viable. Yeah, I don't want someone getting extra points because I was at a disadvantage, because I overheat a lot |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1580
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:29:00 -
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I hit 'coz i care :X number of Melee Kills ( 3 for example , after the 3rd you get the bonus) Keep spraying and prayin' :X number of headshots (5 for example, after the 5th you get the bonus) |
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:33:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:While I do like all the listed ideas I'd like to point out that some of these are just-for-fun rewards and could be overlooked in favour of more team-beneficial rewards and rewards for skill.
For example, "Too Slow" and "Heated Up" both reward you for killing enemies that are at a disadvantage, which is not exactly a show of skill and only benefits the team as much as the clone loss hurts the enemy which is no different than a normal kill.
Also, "Revenge", "Humiliation" and "Superhuman" are all rewards for skill in combat, but meeting the requirements for these rewards provides no extra benefit to the team other than enemy clone loss (as with previous example).
Just saying, if CCP want to focus on squad-play for the next set of rewards they might steer away from these kinds of rewards. They do say they want to also focus on combat rewards though so the second set of examples (and the like) may still be viable. Yeah, I don't want someone getting extra points because I was at a disadvantage, because I overheat a lot
I just added "Air Support Denied" and while this is similar to "Too Slow/Heated Up" in the fact that the enemy is disadvantaged it is beneficial to the team as you are temporarily denying the enemy an orbital strike which could help in numerous ways.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:49:00 -
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Perseveering +2 wp for each other person you've killed since beginning of match or last death |
Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
128
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:21:00 -
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Denial - Kill a medic just before they revive someone.
Terminated - terminate a downed clone.
Killjoy - Kill someone on a superhuman killing spree.
Payback - Kill someone that has humiliated you.
Assassination - Kill someone from behind with knives.
Demolition Man - Destroy 5 Tanks/Turrets/Supply Depots/Dropships/LAVs or CRUs within X seconds.
Squad Annihilation - Kill everyone in a squad within X seconds.
These are all the ones I can think of. |
Soulskulptor
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:05:00 -
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Triple Threat: Killed X number of enemies, Healed X amount of ally HP, and repair X amount of friendly vehicle HP. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
999
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Posted - 2013.10.06 19:36:00 -
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This is the wrong way to go about wp rewards...
But I'd say that heavies should get another way to earn points besides kills and kill assists, maybe points for absorbing damage. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:47:00 -
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Soulskulptor wrote:Triple Threat: Killed X number of enemies, Healed X amount of ally HP, and repair X amount of friendly vehicle HP. Maybe you could interchange Vehicle HP and Ammo Resupplying? Usually I don't see tanks (At least not on MY team...) |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
572
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Posted - 2013.10.07 01:44:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:This is the wrong way to go about wp rewards...
But I'd say that heavies should get another way to earn points besides kills and kill assists, maybe points for absorbing damage.
Bullet Sponge? x WP for taking x number of hits without dying?
I see nothing wrong with heavies getting rewarded for doing there job like everyone else.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.10 22:03:00 -
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Wingman- Stayed in close area to an active squad member for a minute, only rewarded once in a minute.
Suppresive fire- Firing at an enemy and causing them to fall back.
Assassination- Kill an enemy with a nove knife attack in the back.
Guardian angel- Kill all enemies around a downed player before you revive them.
Sentinel -step into an enemies line of fire thats hitting a friendly player and kill that enemy
Ammo runner -placed a nanohive X min distance from a friendly supply depot that is used in the next 5 or so seconds.
Overwatch-Stayed X minutes in a friendly objective and fought off all attackers.
Took Cover- Head into cover during an Orbital attack and survive until the end.
Bullet to the knee- Awarded if the last player you killed respawns with a new fitting.
Vehicle Assistant - Kill an enemy that recently hit a friendly vehicle.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
111
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Posted - 2013.10.10 22:32:00 -
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Ultimate Triage: Get 200k HP Healed and/or revive 30 people.
(Those 30 people must be alive for at least 10 seconds to prevent revive spamming) |
Canaan Knute
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.10.10 23:57:00 -
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+5 WP for terminating a downed clone. |
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.10.11 00:17:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Wingman- Stayed in close area to an active squad member for a minute, only rewarded once in a minute.
Suppresive fire- Firing at an enemy and causing them to fall back.
Assassination- Kill an enemy with a nove knife attack in the back.
Guardian angel- Kill all enemies around a downed player before you revive them.
Sentinel -step into an enemies line of fire thats hitting a friendly player and kill that enemy
Ammo runner -placed a nanohive X min distance from a friendly supply depot that is used in the next 5 or so seconds.
Overwatch-Stayed X minutes in a friendly objective and fought off all attackers.
Took Cover- Head into cover during an Orbital attack and survive until the end.
Bullet to the knee- Awarded if the last player you killed respawns with a new fitting.
Vehicle Assistant - Kill an enemy that recently hit a friendly vehicle.
IMO, some of these are just pointless rewards. |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
439
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Posted - 2013.10.11 01:09:00 -
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Most of them are. Warpoints should be awarded for actions that help your team win the match. Encouraging people to, say, target the merc with a lot of kills may be worth doing, but bonuses for killing people while they reload, or with a headshot, seem pointless. |
Draco Cerberus
Hell's Gate Inc
372
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Posted - 2013.10.11 06:38:00 -
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Mobile CRU spawn +25WP....needed this since Closed Beta. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
112
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:28:00 -
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Canaan Knute wrote:+5 WP for terminating a downed clone. But this would take away work for the logis. What would they do if there was nobody to revive. That would completely remove the reviving mechanics from the game, as everyone would terminate clones for the reward.
That's a big FU to anybody with proto injectors. (At least they'll still have the nanohives) |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
112
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:29:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Mobile CRU spawn +25WP....needed this since Closed Beta. Yes and then give them a few extra points for bringing them to an objective |
Canaan Knute
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:17:00 -
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Atiim wrote:But this would take away work for the logis. What would they do if there was nobody to revive. That would completely remove the reviving mechanics from the game, as everyone would terminate clones for the reward. There are many actions that give you war points, why should clone termination be excluded? Besides, it's not always possible to terminate a clone, especially when you're in the middle of a firefight. If you or your teammates can keep the enemy suppressed, he'll be too preoccupied to finish the job. |
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