DUST Search - what's the difference in these 2 bpo's ?

Rogatien Merc wrote:

Syndicate was initially only available if you bought a mercenary pack through (i think) Gamestop as opposed to through PSN where you'd get the toxin SMG. new merc pack changed it to toxin AR and dragonfly assault instead of scout.

They are both identical to a std SMG as far as performance; ignore any claims to the contrary.

Confirming you can use 1x BPO in multiple slots on a suit.

And whoever posted the 'which BPOs to buy...' wordpress: Cool, but with the vehicle changes coming, we have NO idea what they are going to do with vehicle BPOs that might not even be valid fits anymore (shield resistance amplifiers for instance might not even be an option anymore) - will they refund the BPOs or will they sit in your inventory as a "unique" but useless collector's item that only has ISK value as far as what people will pay to own said collector's item in the future when trading is implimented? We don't know yet. Life's an adventure.

Luk Manag wrote:

A Soma with two large shield extensions blueprints, replaced lows with militia power blueprints, 138k each with 6k+ hp and large blaster. Not bad for the price.

That's ... original. Never even thought to do that and can't even comment further lol

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pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 04:44:00 - [1] - Quote "syndicate" submachine gun or "toxin" icd 9 submachine gun i didnt see any difference in stats when browsing for a bpo sub gun. anyone prefer one over the other? are these the "best" bpo sub guns? also, if i buy 1 shield extender bpo, can i stack that same "1" in 2 or 3 slots? thanks
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4024	Posted - 2013.10.05 04:44:00 - [2] - Quote Whatever your decision may be, act on it quickly - BPO's are going the way of the dodo.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9198	Posted - 2013.10.05 04:47:00 - [3] - Quote Color. Toxin is green Syndy is red.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1853	Posted - 2013.10.05 04:48:00 - [4] - Quote looks for the smg... different colors. as for stacking yes you can with only one
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 301	Posted - 2013.10.05 04:50:00 - [5] - Quote Wait, so ALL the bpos are going away? Which ones are most worth it?
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1070	Posted - 2013.10.05 04:54:00 - [6] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Wait, so ALL the bpos are going away? Which ones are most worth it? Buy them all. They'll be worth a lot when the market comes.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 04:56:00 - [7] - Quote ladwar wrote: looks for the smg... different colors. as for stacking yes you can with only one thanks, why have two different ones, with only different colors? are they left over bpo's from various packs or something? i mean, 2 exact same sub gun bpo's, but all kinds of various weapons/suits with ZERO bpo's
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 04:58:00 - [8] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Whatever your decision may be, act on it quickly - BPO's are going the way of the dodo. thats what im doing ,building a bpo fit with the merc pack bpo's and the aurum it comes with
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 303	Posted - 2013.10.05 05:00:00 - [9] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Wait, so ALL the bpos are going away? Which ones are most worth it? Buy them all. They'll be worth a lot when the market comes. Which ones will be most worth it?
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2644	Posted - 2013.10.05 05:00:00 - [10] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: ladwar wrote: looks for the smg... different colors. as for stacking yes you can with only one thanks, why have two different ones, with only different colors? are they left over bpo's from various packs or something? i mean, 2 exact same sub gun bpo's, but all kinds of various weapons/suits with ZERO bpo's It's actually a lot worse than that. Guess how many identical AR BPOs that have come out? How many Caldari Assault suit BPOs? More than 2... It's meant to be cosmetic, but it's a little odd with so many things not having BPOs to have all the repeats.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 05:01:00 - [11] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Wait, so ALL the bpos are going away? Which ones are most worth it? depends on your play style and how much your willing to spend. you can build a decent fit with what comes in the merc pack (merc pack only last til oct 8th)
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1141	Posted - 2013.10.05 05:06:00 - [12] - Quote Most of the militia dropsuit BPOs aren't that useful. The pg / cpu mods can be handy, and the militia uplink / hacking module can be good for suicide suits that you'll die in constantly...but if you manage to get away from the fighting you can have a huge impact on the match. What's really worth it though is the vehicle blueprints. Particularly for making free LAVs if you bought a veteran or elite pack.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 05:15:00 - [13] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: Most of the militia dropsuit BPOs aren't that useful. The pg / cpu mods can be handy, and the militia uplink / hacking module can be good for suicide suits that you'll die in constantly...but if you manage to get away from the fighting you can have a huge impact on the match. What's really worth it though is the vehicle blueprints. Particularly for making free LAVs if you bought a veteran or elite pack. i had to replace my ps3 back in february and it came with a pack in code for dust. it had 20k aurum, 7 day active, "grustis saga LAV bpo" and a bunch of consumables. its what got me started on dust514
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1143	Posted - 2013.10.05 05:23:00 - [14] - Quote Yeah, so if you bought some vehicle module BPOs you could take that LAV and turn it into a disposable transport. I'd look at the shield hardeners, power diagnostic system / reactor control and possibly the shield booster. I really haven't been a vehicle guy since last summer so I'm not sure, but I think the blueprint shield extender you can get is meant for tanks (won't fit on a LAV)
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 05:29:00 - [15] - Quote Kristoff Atruin wrote: Yeah, so if you bought some vehicle module BPOs you could take that LAV and turn it into a disposable transport. I'd look at the shield hardeners, power diagnostic system / reactor control and possibly the shield booster. I really haven't been a vehicle guy since last summer so I'm not sure, but I think the blueprint shield extender you can get is meant for tanks (won't fit on a LAV) good thinking, if only it came with a turret, or if they had a blaster bpo. oh well, still could make a vehicle that cost less than 10k
Chumlee Chummington Red Star. EoN. 9	Posted - 2013.10.05 07:19:00 - [16] - Quote Correct me if i'm wrong, in eve u can sell copies of an original bpo (or so im told). This could become a big deal if manufacturing ever becomes a part of dust.
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 73	Posted - 2013.10.05 07:28:00 - [17] - Quote I don't believe for a second this is the end of BPO's. How much you want to bet within a couple months a whole new set of BPOs makes its way to the market. This is just CCP pushing those on the fence into buying them for more $$$.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9201	Posted - 2013.10.05 08:05:00 - [18] - Quote There are times I hate my NDA, this is one of them.
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 288	Posted - 2013.10.05 08:06:00 - [19] - Quote In terms of BPO's worth getting - It depends on your skills and character. But in general there is usually one suit of your race worth having (Gal scout, Militia heavy, Cal Assault and 'Sever' Logi) Weapon wise any of the smg's are a good investment. But be prepared to fork out a little more for the slightly better light weapons (in packs). The militia ones are ok but those are more versitile
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 288	Posted - 2013.10.05 08:51:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are times I hate my NDA, this is one of them. Like how the Toxin does more damage - ok, maybe to get around the stats they claim it doesn't by adding a armour penetration modifier to it or something Or that the Syndicate seems to have better range and less dispersion - Again not in the stats so we can't directly compare
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 389	Posted - 2013.10.05 10:55:00 - [21] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Wait, so ALL the bpos are going away? Which ones are most worth it? Corpie wrote this: http://serpentinelogic.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/which-dust-blueprints-to-buy/
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 365	Posted - 2013.10.05 11:21:00 - [22] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: "syndicate" submachine gun or "toxin" icd 9 submachine gun i didnt see any difference in stats when browsing for a bpo sub gun. anyone prefer one over the other? are these the "best" bpo sub guns? also, if i buy 1 shield extender bpo, can i stack that same "1" in 2 or 3 slots? thanks I am pretty sure you can 'stack' your shield BPO multiple times over. I mean speaking from experience, I have a fit that has dual Toxins, and they are both the same one blueprint.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1554	Posted - 2013.10.05 11:47:00 - [23] - Quote As a scout I'd burn through suits -- I'm happy to have the dragonfly BPO to keep fit costs down.
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 24	Posted - 2013.10.05 12:28:00 - [24] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Wait, so ALL the bpos are going away? Which ones are most worth it? Buy them all. They'll be worth a lot when the market comes. LMAO. Keep thinking that
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 352	Posted - 2013.10.05 12:57:00 - [25] - Quote syndicte is prettier
JP Acuna RoyalSquad514 19	Posted - 2013.10.05 13:20:00 - [26] - Quote I already had a 'Toxin' Assault Rifle, so i chose to have my SMG with different color and got the 'Syndicate'. Also as a Minmatar weapon i felt like it's revolutionary backstory was more interesting. On the other hand, the 'Toxin' SMG has the same description as the AR and the poisonous effect it claims to have is actually just fictional. Anyway, they're just the same so it's up to you which one to choose.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 394	Posted - 2013.10.05 13:33:00 - [27] - Quote Syndicate has a better backstory/Lore. It's badass level is quite higher than the toxin
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 17:02:00 - [28] - Quote whats the deal with that MLT minmatar medium suit, it has 2 equipment slots, and i think it had MLT minny assault numbers. is it a hybrid or did i misread? (i dont have access to the marketplace at the moment to double check)
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 105	Posted - 2013.10.05 17:25:00 - [29] - Quote A Soma with two large shield extensions blueprints, replaced lows with militia power blueprints, 138k each with 6k+ hp and large blaster. Not bad for the price.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 672	Posted - 2013.10.05 17:43:00 - [30] - Quote Toxin has doped slugs, the other SMG doesn't. Go toxin.
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 160	Posted - 2013.10.05 17:53:00 - [31] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: whats the deal with that MLT minmatar medium suit, it has 2 equipment slots, and i think it had MLT minny assault numbers. is it a hybrid or did i misread? (i dont have access to the marketplace at the moment to double check) IIRC it has no sidearm slot- it's a MLT version (-1 equip slot) of the Sever Min Logi BPO
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1400	Posted - 2013.10.05 18:02:00 - [32] - Quote Syndicate was initially only available if you bought a mercenary pack through (i think) Gamestop as opposed to through PSN where you'd get the toxin SMG. new merc pack changed it to toxin AR and dragonfly assault instead of scout. They are both identical to a std SMG as far as performance; ignore any claims to the contrary. Confirming you can use 1x BPO in multiple slots on a suit. And whoever posted the 'which BPOs to buy...' wordpress: Cool, but with the vehicle changes coming, we have NO idea what they are going to do with vehicle BPOs that might not even be valid fits anymore (shield resistance amplifiers for instance might not even be an option anymore) - will they refund the BPOs or will they sit in your inventory as a "unique" but useless collector's item that only has ISK value as far as what people will pay to own said collector's item in the future when trading is implimented? We don't know yet. Life's an adventure. Luk Manag wrote: A Soma with two large shield extensions blueprints, replaced lows with militia power blueprints, 138k each with 6k+ hp and large blaster. Not bad for the price. That's ... original. Never even thought to do that and can't even comment further lol
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 291	Posted - 2013.10.05 18:06:00 - [33] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: whats the deal with that MLT minmatar medium suit, it has 2 equipment slots, and i think it had MLT minny assault numbers. is it a hybrid or did i misread? (i dont have access to the marketplace at the moment to double check) The 'Fossil' ? Its a throwback to the original Minmatar suit from waaay back. It used to have just a sidearm but this has been changed to a light weapon. Other than that its the same as it always was. Now its essentially a standard Militia Med frame with the slots switched around, 2 equipment slots and no sidearm
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 19:34:00 - [34] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Syndicate was initially only available if you bought a mercenary pack through (i think) Gamestop as opposed to through PSN where you'd get the toxin SMG. new merc pack changed it to toxin AR and dragonfly assault instead of scout. They are both identical to a std SMG as far as performance; ignore any claims to the contrary. Confirming you can use 1x BPO in multiple slots on a suit. And whoever posted the 'which BPOs to buy...' wordpress: Cool, but with the vehicle changes coming, we have NO idea what they are going to do with vehicle BPOs that might not even be valid fits anymore (shield resistance amplifiers for instance might not even be an option anymore) - will they refund the BPOs or will they sit in your inventory as a "unique" but useless collector's item that only has ISK value as far as what people will pay to own said collector's item in the future when trading is implimented? We don't know yet. Life's an adventure. Luk Manag wrote: A Soma with two large shield extensions blueprints, replaced lows with militia power blueprints, 138k each with 6k+ hp and large blaster. Not bad for the price. That's ... original. Never even thought to do that and can't even comment further lol i have the lav bpo that came with the ps3 dust code pack in, and ill be VERY disappointed if they render it unless by removing said lav variant. ive asked in the main vehicle rework thread and a few others, about whats going to happen with the lav bpo's (if they are being removed temporarily) but never got a direct response in my redflag/inbox and i dont feel like sorting through 30 pages, to see if their was an indirect answer from anyone. do you happen to recall where you seen any info on this? id like to see any little thing said about it, no matter how small or vague also THANKS for the informative response
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 254	Posted - 2013.10.05 20:01:00 - [35] - Quote Chumlee Chummington wrote: Correct me if i'm wrong, in eve u can sell copies of an original bpo (or so im told). This could become a big deal if manufacturing ever becomes a part of dust. Only in eve man
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 406	Posted - 2013.10.05 20:10:00 - [36] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: whats the deal with that MLT minmatar medium suit, it has 2 equipment slots, and i think it had MLT minny assault numbers. is it a hybrid or did i misread? (i dont have access to the marketplace at the moment to double check) The 'Fossil' ? Its a throwback to the original Minmatar suit from waaay back. It used to have just a sidearm but this has been changed to a light weapon. Other than that its the same as it always was. Now its essentially a standard Militia Med frame with the slots switched around, 2 equipment slots and no sidearm one thing the fossil does have is more speed and passive reps it has the speed of an assault suit and the 1hp passive reps
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 20:34:00 - [37] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are times I hate my NDA, this is one of them. This makes me think all bpo's will be back after a rework (better then ever) From a business aspect, (didnt they have an internal "shake up" recently? ) mabey the new team is trying to maximise profits while streamlining things for a better experience. Wasnt the marketplace recently reworked, to remove unnecessary clutter (all the sp and isk requirements for every weapon) and the new squad finder, means finding a squad faster and easier. new player tutorials make it easier to learn how to play dust514. While the new matchmaker/battle finder streamlined, how you join your preferred match type. Meaning bpo's are up next for a rework/clean-up. Why have 10 different AR bpo's? I've seen multiple times, people asking for this or that bpo. Why not have 1 or 2 AR bpo's and change the other 8 into, 8 different various bpo's ( ex 1 MD, 1 flaylock, ect ect) You've got "mass driver guy" holding out his hand full of money, but cant find what hes looking for, so he spends his cash on COD instead. Why not have a bpo for everything MLT grade? It's digital content, all it requires to make, is man hours, and if you want to remove it, its just a click or 2, without any physical waste or unused stock. Same with maximising profits on the merc pack, since it contains 40k aurum, plus much much more for 20 dollars, It made buying 40k aurum straight up, for 20 dollars, obsolete. So from the business side, the merc pack had to go, it was to good of a deal. Mabey the merc pack will be refreshed (new bpo's) and re-released for 30-ish dollars (that seems to be the appropriate price point) Thank you IWS for providing fuel, for the speculation fire. ps. i didnt mention the tactical pack because its such a fail...smh
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 406	Posted - 2013.10.05 20:37:00 - [38] - Quote get them both the syndicate and toxin
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 72	Posted - 2013.10.05 20:39:00 - [39] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: whats the deal with that MLT minmatar medium suit, it has 2 equipment slots, and i think it had MLT minny assault numbers. is it a hybrid or did i misread? (i dont have access to the marketplace at the moment to double check) The 'Fossil' ? Its a throwback to the original Minmatar suit from waaay back. It used to have just a sidearm but this has been changed to a light weapon. Other than that its the same as it always was. Now its essentially a standard Militia Med frame with the slots switched around, 2 equipment slots and no sidearm one thing the fossil does have is more speed and passive reps it has the speed of an assault suit and the 1hp passive reps i heard suit bonuses carry over to bpo suit. is this true? (ex im at level 3 on minny logi and level 4 on amarr logi, would that 1hp rep, turn into 3 since my minny logi skill is 3? )
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2013.10.05 20:40:00 - [40] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: "syndicate" submachine gun or "toxin" icd 9 submachine gun i didnt see any difference in stats when browsing for a bpo sub gun. anyone prefer one over the other? are these the "best" bpo sub guns? also, if i buy 1 shield extender bpo, can i stack that same "1" in 2 or 3 slots? thanks One is red, one is green. Get the red one... much nicer look.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1393	Posted - 2013.10.05 20:47:00 - [41] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: There are times I hate my NDA, this is one of them. Are they getting rid of BPOs to prepare for a player market? Screw NDA they don't have to know if you -wink wink- inform us in privacy.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 406	Posted - 2013.10.05 22:21:00 - [42] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: pyramidhead 420 wrote: whats the deal with that MLT minmatar medium suit, it has 2 equipment slots, and i think it had MLT minny assault numbers. is it a hybrid or did i misread? (i dont have access to the marketplace at the moment to double check) The 'Fossil' ? Its a throwback to the original Minmatar suit from waaay back. It used to have just a sidearm but this has been changed to a light weapon. Other than that its the same as it always was. Now its essentially a standard Militia Med frame with the slots switched around, 2 equipment slots and no sidearm one thing the fossil does have is more speed and passive reps it has the speed of an assault suit and the 1hp passive reps i heard suit bonuses carry over to bpo suit. is this true? (ex im at level 3 on minny logi and level 4 on amarr logi, would that 1hp rep, turn into 3 since my minny logi skill is 3? ) they do for the sver, valor. raven, and dren as for the dragonfly I believe they do (may be wrong) militia they do not
Skihids Bullet Cluster 2239	Posted - 2013.10.05 22:52:00 - [43] - Quote The BPO shield extender,assault rifle, locus grenade, rep tool and needles are great to fit on a BPO SEVR Logi suit for a disposable Logi fit. You actually earn more WPs from the ML variants of the needle and rep tool due to the screwed up healing reward system. Earn ISK with zero risk.
Chumlee Chummington Red Star. EoN. 9	Posted - 2013.10.06 00:01:00 - [44] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Chumlee Chummington wrote: Correct me if i'm wrong, in eve u can sell copies of an original bpo (or so im told). This could become a big deal if manufacturing ever becomes a part of dust. Only in eve man Just wishful thinking...

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