I know it would suck, and I sure wouldn't want to do it.
But lets be honest here, this is nothing to do with nerfing AV or making the game suck for AV players while re-building vehicles.

I just honestly wonder how CCP intends to balance vehicles VS av if they are starting with standard vehicles and working their way up from there (slowly).
play-testing that will yield some data that's pretty difficult to shift though and interpret unless everything was standard vs standard.


And on another point I think it would be prudent before 1.7(vehicles?) to add the amarr and min standard vehicle variants.
What good is 'balancing' the bottom up of only two races and then pluggin in the last 2 randomly?


Thoughts?

Lol, no. You are obviously one of those few people who simply wants your tank to be as OP as possible instead of trying to create any sort of balance. A case can be made for the temporary removal of proto AV, but advanced? Youre just being a cry baby now.

What are you really balancing though? Std AV vs Std tanks with std modules? Std av vs std tanks with proto modules?

What do you really expect ccp will learn from this?

I don't really give a **** what you actually operate, you obviously don't care about actual balance. Ill tell you this, if a standard tank can be taken out by a standard Swarm that tank is not worth even owning. There is a difference in levels between vehicles and AV weapons. Back when we had Marauders they were "proto" tanks, so obviously there was never really much of an intention for a dropsuit/weapon style progression with vehicles.

har har. Implied removal of anything advance or better, to match vehicles so this can actually be accessed tier by tier symmetrically.

the goal:
balance AV+vehicles, vehicles vs vehicles.

vehicle vs vehicle is starting out with just standards and (should include all races).
You'd think to do av vs vehicles would require standards for any proper analysis.

This helps ensure neither vehicles nor AV end up OP at any point between standard to proto

I'm hoping (and by the looks of it my hopes are pretty well founded) that they're going to test out a tiercided model for vehicles. I mean, even the WIP stats on these vehicles are pretty damn high, coupled with optional turrets, makes the potential for VERY tough vehicles, even against prototype AV. So if I'm not mistaken this is going to be a very interesting few months.

if a std tank cannot be taken down by std AV there is inbalance creating artificial numbers advantage. if you dont understand that then do yourself a favor and dont post because you have no clue drive well and not brainless rambo then your tank will do fine. 99% of tank deaths can be avoided by just using the brain and not overextending.