tanks cost 2.5 mil

lai dais cost 15k

Honestly, have Tankers ever come to the conclusion that AV might be a Hard Counter specifically designed to destroy them.

I focus on infantry vs infantry, and when I see a tank you know what I do? I Do a complete 180 and make sure that Tank is no where near me.

My AR and I, have long ago come to the acceptance that I will never ever be able to destroy a tank. Tank play is my hard counter, and I absolutely hate it.

Now why is it so hard for tankers or pilots to grasp that AV is a hard counter. The AV player specifically chose a role to counter you, making him vulnerable to people like me.

Is the thought of chilling in safe area and sending slayers to mop up the AV to hard concept to handle.

Honestly, have Tankers ever come to the conclusion that AV might be a Hard Counter specifically designed to destroy them.

I focus on infantry vs infantry, and when I see a tank you know what I do? I Do a complete 180 and make sure that Tank is no where near me.

My AR and I, have long ago come to the acceptance that I will never ever be able to destroy a tank. Tank play is my hard counter, and I absolutely hate it.

Now why is it so hard for tankers or pilots to grasp that AV is a hard counter. The AV player specifically chose a role to counter you, making him vulnerable to people like me.

Is the thought of chilling in safe area and sending slayers to mop up the AV to hard concept to handle.

tanks cost 2.5 mil

lai dais cost 15k

The cost of tanks have a lot to do with this. Paying a million just to die in a few seconds to one guy with AV. Infantry kinda doesn't see this from our point of view. It is far easier than you think to destroy a tank in just a few short seconds. By one single guy...

You know how much ISK I would lose if I 1v1 tank for a whole game?\

and sense when are we balancing game play on ISK

indeed we understand our class has counters in game but its not right for only 1 equipment to ruin the entire game for a whole squad of tankers or more for the whole match and beyond... that's not balance...

You know how much ISK I would lose if I 1v1 tank for a whole game?\

and sense when are we balancing game play on ISK

Ok lets say were balancing for ISK\

My most expensive suit about 250 isk vs a militia Tank and blaster.

Should I win?

do you know how much isk I would lose if I tried to 1v1 an av guy for a whole game? a **** load more than what your dropsuits cost.

You know how much ISK I would lose if I 1v1 tank for a whole game?\

and sense when are we balancing game play on ISK

if u have 2 lia dias the tank would explode. hell maybe even 1. XD so yes u would win.

since infantry recommended turrets cost 1 mil a piece in the name of balance.

Honestly, have Tankers ever come to the conclusion that AV might be a Hard Counter specifically designed to destroy them.

I focus on infantry vs infantry, and when I see a tank you know what I do? I Do a complete 180 and make sure that Tank is no where near me.

My AR and I, have long ago come to the acceptance that I will never ever be able to destroy a tank. Tank play is my hard counter, and I absolutely hate it.

Now why is it so hard for tankers or pilots to grasp that AV is a hard counter. The AV player specifically chose a role to counter you, making him vulnerable to people like me.

Is the thought of chilling in safe area and sending slayers to mop up the AV to hard concept to handle.

Militia assault rifle costs nothing, yet can still kill a protosuit if done right...

I still believe an AVer should be able to solo a Tank, problem is it's not economically fair or viable. I love killing tanks but do you know how bad I feel about it? I feel awful every time I kill someone, knowing it's gonna take 5 games to get another :/

That's like an hour and half play for a Tank (Skirmish), ridiculous.Yes "New Eden is unfair" but it's still ridiculous that it costs so little to take on a tank.

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My role is full anti infantry

why would I carry AV

So if they increase the cost of AV. STD AV grenades 100k, STD Swarm 200k, STD Forge Gun 300k. Will the tankers stop crying?

Its a hard counter....

one tank can ruin a squad of infantry with no AV

Yeah Regnym it could be like you say if AV "block" AR path. in reality the main issue is that people have SWARM and NADES

I'm an Heavy and back in cromo i choose it 'cause i can kill Tankers With my forge...

But right now ( i'm not a tower forgin scrub) people with a faster suit ( and usually had even the same HP) could put more dmg than my forge and dont need to aim too.
and then simply change and go back to AR.

As a Av specialist i found time to know tank weak spot and how can screw a dropship's balance. But swarm are something terribad. and with the profusion of DMG mod that an ASS.suit can run.....

since infantry recommended turrets cost 1 mil a piece in the name of balance.

Its a hard counter....

one tank can ruin a squad of infantry with no AV

Isn't that the infantry fault for taking pure flux/frag instead of AV nades? You pay a price for hyper specializing. This is like saying that in an open map, a squad of AR users will obliterate a squad of shotgunners... Every time.

So if they increase the cost of AV. STD AV grenades 100k, STD Swarm 200k, STD Forge Gun 300k. Will the tankers stop crying?

and one av can destroy an entire group of tanks and lock the map down from them

Thank you for quoting only a portion.

Good old echo was complaining that one AVer can ruin a full squad of tankers. Just showing the flip side on how counters work.

not complaining just giving you examples on how unbalanced things are in favor of av

Thank you tankers form proving my point.

1 tank in game with no AV can win the match. Especially in Ambush.

Can you really not grasp the concept of sending ppl like me to deal with AV, or is that the tanks job?

1 tank in game with no AV can win the match. Especially in Ambush.

Can you really not grasp the concept of sending ppl like me to deal with AV, or is that the tanks job?

can you really not accept the reality that only 1 out of every 100 mercs actually care about tanks and will defend them?

your idea of how infantry works even though you are one is dead wrong when it comes to tanks.

if infantry actually did go after the av, then I would only hate you half as much as I do

Pot calling the kettle black?

You tankers are always preaching to infantry that we should have to use superior tactics and teamwork to rid the field of a tank... yet here you are proving once again that tankers just want to solo everything, teamwork or not.

since infantry recommended turrets cost 1 mil a piece in the name of balance.

Pot calling the kettle black?

You tankers are always preaching to infantry that we should have to use superior tactics and teamwork to rid the field of a tank... yet here you are proving once again that tankers just want to solo everything, teamwork or not.

Honestly, have Tankers ever come to the conclusion that AV might be a Hard Counter specifically designed to destroy them.

I focus on infantry vs infantry, and when I see a tank you know what I do? I Do a complete 180 and make sure that Tank is no where near me.

My AR and I, have long ago come to the acceptance that I will never ever be able to destroy a tank. Tank play is my hard counter, and I absolutely hate it.

Now why is it so hard for tankers or pilots to grasp that AV is a hard counter. The AV player specifically chose a role to counter you, making him vulnerable to people like me.

Is the thought of chilling in safe area and sending slayers to mop up the AV to hard concept to handle.