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No one's gonna want to live in a house with a REALLY sweet foundation, but only two walls, and those are only on the first floor.

Better to have a decent house with a pool, tennis courts and a three car garage, even if the front door sticks, and the showers get cold after an hour.

Beats a furnished basement with nothing upstairs, no?

I come from SOCOM, not a spoiled content background.

Excellent analogy, well put!

SOCOM, +1, damn i miss that game, best most competitive shooter on console ever

have you seen this http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1687497632/h-hour-worlds-elite-0

What would they matter if gameplay is still not where it should be? Do you even tank?

imho racial suits, weaponry and vehicles should be done first as basis along with polished core and a respec for everyone thus you can actually get SP into something you wanted instead of the limited choice you currently have.

A full respec would undermine part of the core gameplay. However, a partial respec for a specific skill set would be nice (e.g. heavy suits).

Yes, though I don't enjoy it not because gameplay is poor, but because I cannot use an Amarrian HAV.

Sure I am not as good as you but my opinion is no les valid on the subject, to think that is close minded of you.

Thank you sir.

I find I like you PIE guys more and more. Also, regardless of the picture, I'm an Amarr at heart.

We ought to squad up sometime. For what it's worth, I run an Amarr assault suit and assault scrambler. = )

This BS again? did you not read the list of things we would still have to look forward to?
Even if they add the missing racial variant they will still have this stuff (they mentioned these are coming) to add.

the revamped Skirmish 1.0 (attack/defend, multiple stages)

Lava planets

Ice planets

Gas giants

More vegetation, including trees.

MTACs (they were promised for early 2013 back in Fanfest 2012 and STILL not here)

MCC commanders (promised since 2009)

player-deployed installations (promised since 2009)

EVE starship boarding,

PVE (promised it woul be here by 2012, still not here).

Gun customization

MAVs

Speeders

fighters

0 gravity battles

At Fanfest 2013 CCP mentioned that racial variants for weapons, dropsuits, and vehicles were a NEAR FUTURE goal, and they defined near future as 12 months or less from the time of that Fanfest, NOT 2 years. You actually want CCP to release racial variants at least twice as slow as they originally intended.

Gameplay at the moment is ok. Content is lacking.

Racial variants should have been there on release, but instead we were forced to spec into things that otherwise would not be our first choice to stay competitive because we weren't provided with all the basic options. We've been getting gameplay fixes since release, its been almost 5 months and no new racial variants came, only gameplay fixes. Its about time we get something new.

EDIT: also, do you somehow not realize that there is a middle ground between getting everything at once, and having to wait half a year or more for new content?

A full respec would undermine part of the core gameplay. However, a partial respec for a specific skill set would be nice (e.g. heavy suits).

Didn't we get a new map like a couple weeks ago?

Also should you ever need a new corporation, PIE has been accepting non-Amarr races into our sister corp since 2012. It's essentially the same thing but with a slightly different description for role play purposes.

Respectfully disagree. If all the core content is available, then it drastically changes how you would have approached spending your skill points. For example, if you want to be a Sentinel your only option is Amarr, but you really want to be a Caldari Sentinel. However the best way to tank the Amarr Sentinel is with armor, not shields.

Or what if you are really set on only using your race's technology? So say you want to be an Amarr scout, but none is available so you did the next best thing and went Amarr Assault even though it's not what you had intended to.

And then in True's case (hope you don't mind!), he had always wanted to do Amarr HAVs but couldn't stand using non-Amarr tech so invested heavily into Amarr infantry. Of course now he's finally gave in and gone Gallente HAV because it doesn't look like content is coming anytime soon, but you get the idea.

When the core content is released, it needs to be a FULL respec.

So wanting a respec because you can't let SP pool for another suit is fine, but no mention of a respec for pilots because everything about vehicles is going to be changed.

I appreciate the offer, but I'm OSG for life.

Were you to play with us, I'm certain you'd feel the same way. = )

We actually span multiple games as well, though I'm not sure you do (or that it's appropriate to discuss here).

Either way, I'll join PIE Ground Deployment next time I'm in there.

Stupid Gallente picture. = /

I don't even like them, and honestly MEANT to click Minmatar. = )

Stupid (old) interface.

Either way though, I'm not 'swayed' by racism or slavery. In fact, I tend to like those things when they aren't applied to real life. Gimli/Legolas would NOT be nearly as cool if they didn't 'hate' each other. = )

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I'm out 4 Million SP because content that should have been in game was not.

Sorry your alliance fights for the dirty gallente scum. As much as you seem like a cool guy I cant get on with your corps alignment. Also good to see you are more open minded about this game and not just one of the more generalist players.

Yeah, well they paid better. = )

Worth mentioning, we're done with that, and I've managed to get quite a few Amarr converts in my squads. Most people like being the 'bad guy' I find.

Also, Dat gold trim.

It doesn't have to be "either or". They can incorporate both in alternating sequences. Mechanics are much improved but still not 100%, nor will they ever be. I do have to agree with Spkr though...gameplay always comes first. Content should be a reward and given in small doses with plenty of in-between time.

the argurment with this, is the fact that all of this was promised to be there upon full release of the game, what 5-6 months ago

this isnt NEW content, its content that should have been there from the start

Not to be rude, but nobody you will find in the PIE Ground Deployment believes Amarr are the bad guys. We all genuinely agree they are, in fact, the good guys - and this coming off of a lot of looking into the lore and knowing the ins-and-outs of each of the four main races.

If this surprises you (especially with the whole slavery thing), I will gladly clear up any confusion when we meet in-game!

Well then mate hop aboard with us for a while in PIE GD I would love the opportunity to squad up and meet some new faces. Do you have a channel we could join.

There are some excellent FW players in FW.

Exactly. No one is asking for shiny new toys, we just want the plane Jane normal old toys that have been on display for several months.

He is right. There are some excellent Amarr loyalists in that channel.