A good presentation of a valid point OP.

What would be the best bang for the buck in terms of new/revised content in the short term? Foxfour and crew are cooking up something for faction warfare, so maybe there's something there in terms of new gameplay.

I believe the simplest answer to the problem is Skirmish 1.0-style staging on the current maps.

So we had a Clan meeting today, as we do normally on the first of the month. But what wasn't normal was the speed with which we brought up, discussed, and dismissed Dust. We used to talk about it for hours.

A lot of you may not know RND or think only talking about Dust for a few hours isn't anything special, but RND has been around for a while in a few shooters, and has been competitive and very successful in all of them. So to spend hours talking about only Dust and very little time with current/future shooters when you have a number of players active in multiple other games was telling. Before PC launched we spent a lot of time discussing Alliances, Districts, strategies, etc in Clan meetings.

Today we spent all of 15 minutes talking about the current state of Dust, RND, and the relationship between the two. For the next hour and 15 minutes we spent time talking about two other games, only one of which is even out right now.

While I won't bore you with the details (as if you aren't bored by this point already), the point is, there's nothing new in Dust and from what I'm reading on the forums from Devs, there isn't any urgency to change that. With that in mind:

There's nothing new to be said, really, but it's worth repeating in yet another thread. If you've played the game for more than a few months, you know it's sorely lacking in content.

I'll just parrot the standard doom/gloom arguments because every day they become less pessimistic and more realistic: With big name titles right around the corner (or already here) like BF4 and GTAO and with the soon-to-be-released PS4 with its own slew of high-profile shooter titles (Killzone, Planetside 2, Destiny, The Division, Warframe, Blacklight Retribution, etc etc), things are only going to get worse. Every patch after 1.6 needs to be primarily concerned with adding content, because 3 modes on 8 maps with only 16v16 is horribly repetitive.

A lot of the corps that have 20 million + SP players are losing a lot of people because the game is just boring. There's nothing new to do, ever.

CCP: Make content a priority from here on out. Suits, maps, game modes, sockets, space stations, new planets (how long have we been fighting on only temperate planets?), PvE, anything.

looks like the last Cronos meeting...3 months ago

CCP - "We've heard your demands for more content, and are proud to announce that we will be introducing a new Squad Finder in 1.5!"

CCP - "We've heard your demands for more content, and are proud to announce that we will be introducing a new Squad Finder in 1.5!"

Correction.

CCP - "We've heard your demands (as well as our reviews) to fix the content we already have so that it's function before introducing anything else and are still working on that."

Oh - by the way, Squad Finder is part of that social aspect that half of you were bitching about not too long ago

Except that's the thing, Dust is functional. People need to stop over-exaggerating that Dust is unplayable - I'd go as far as to say it is on par with industry standards for a full retail game as far as the actual gameplay goes.

True, we can at least be glad we got the Amarr medium frame and scrambler rifle before CCP decided to make this drastic shift in focus to exclusively gameplay fixes, because had they made that shift even a month sooner we would probably still be about 6 months or more away from their introduction.

I think one of the reasons CCP have made this switch is due to sone weapns and such being unbalanced. The forums have tended to focus on this and the majority of posts here have been about OP or UP things.

Spread the word and lets make new content the repetitive post topic. When CCP have nothing else to comment on they might see that content is wanted more than the fixes they are currently working on.

Maybe this will help.

I fully support this and have been working at it!

CCP is not the best judge on what is and isn't OP or UP.

Correction.

CCP - "We've heard your demands (as well as our reviews) to fix the content we already have so that it's function before introducing anything else and are still working on that."

Oh - by the way, Squad Finder is part of that social aspect that half of you were bitching about not too long ago

Thus this thread proves that you should stick to your own plans. People screamed fix the core for like 6 months and now ccp are two months into that effort people are screaming more content.

All that said OMG GIVES US MORE STUFF

But do it on your plan and stick to it clearly trying to please the fourm has just got you into more of a mess

What would be the best bang for the buck in terms of new/revised content in the short term? Foxfour and crew are cooking up something for faction warfare, so maybe there's something there in terms of new gameplay.

Hang on so RND talks about new content etc yet reasons for leaving PC is because of lag and other things

Frankly id prefer for the core of the game to be playable, reduce LAG as much as possible and balance what we have then add in new content

Adding in broken new content isnt well recieved, look at flaylocks

Problem with this comunity is that they want content to be added but if lag pops up or the core mechanics aint working then they complain about that ie hit detection, basically they want it all without having to sacrifice anything for it thinking they have the resources like EA does

Our reasons for leaving PC are here. You'll notice it doesn't mention lag or framerate drops, though those can certainly be annoying. It should also be noted that I made this thread about two weeks ago.

Regarding core mechanics, I think the game is doing pretty well in those areas--at least better than we're doing content-wise. The focus of every patch up to now (and including at least 1.6) is and will be core mechanics. It's not as if the game launched with a whole bunch of maps and modes and we can ignore it in favor of core mechanics for months on end.

As for broken content, the last maps they added were much better than their previous ones, the only major problem being they're too spread out for 16v16. Everyone likes to talk about how the flaylock was broken, but the scrambler rifle was really well balanced and they were introduced at the same time.

Thus this thread proves that you should stick to your own plans. People screamed fix the core for like 6 months and now ccp are two months into that effort people are screaming more content.

All that said OMG GIVES US MORE STUFF

But do it on your plan and stick to it clearly trying to please the fourm has just got you into more of a mess

It was broken back then. If their plan is any indication, you'll be playing the same game modes till 2015. I say 'You'll' because it'll only be you here.

Exactly...who mentioned anything about lag?

Swear him and his man needs to get some ***** and stop hanging on RND's nuts. Constantly looking for a reason to talk bullshit.

Anyway back on topic...every fps shooter that I've ever played has lag in it. Dust has framerate drops in pc, which they can focus on but even when they fix that, it will not bring back any old players. ....nor, will it bring in any new ones. Only way to sustain and increase the playerbase is to give new content.

Who wants to be downloading fixes every month for another half year? Fixes should be rolled in as soon as CCP has developed them and not for the next patch. I don't know anything about passing Sony's regulations or getting their approval but hotfixes should be used to fixed core mechanics and not new patches. New patches should have, more or less, new content.