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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

Parson Atreides wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Hang on so RND talks about new content etc yet reasons for leaving PC is because of lag and other things

Frankly id prefer for the core of the game to be playable, reduce LAG as much as possible and balance what we have then add in new content

Adding in broken new content isnt well recieved, look at flaylocks

Problem with this comunity is that they want content to be added but if lag pops up or the core mechanics aint working then they complain about that ie hit detection, basically they want it all without having to sacrifice anything for it thinking they have the resources like EA does

Our reasons for leaving PC are here. You'll notice it doesn't mention lag or framerate drops, though those can certainly be annoying. It should also be noted that I made this thread about two weeks ago.

Regarding core mechanics, I think the game is doing pretty well in those areas--at least better than we're doing content-wise. The focus of every patch up to now (and including at least 1.6) is and will be core mechanics. It's not as if the game launched with a whole bunch of maps and modes and we can ignore it in favor of core mechanics for months on end.

As for broken content, the last maps they added were much better than their previous ones, the only major problem being they're too spread out for 16v16. Everyone likes to talk about how the flaylock was broken, but the scrambler rifle was really well balanced and they were introduced at the same time.

Exactly...who mentioned anything about lag?

Swear him and his man needs to get some ***** and stop hanging on RND's nuts. Constantly looking for a reason to talk bullshit.

Anyway back on topic...every fps shooter that I've ever played has lag in it. Dust has framerate drops in pc, which they can focus on but even when they fix that, it will not bring back any old players. ....nor, will it bring in any new ones. Only way to sustain and increase the playerbase is to give new content.

Who wants to be downloading fixes every month for another half year? Fixes should be rolled in as soon as CCP has developed them and not for the next patch. I don't know anything about passing Sony's regulations or getting their approval but hotfixes should be used to fixed core mechanics and not new patches. New patches should have, more or less, new content.

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Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 233	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:17:00 - [31] - Quote Im sorry but once Metal Gear Solid Online 3 comes out....goodbye Dust. Unless of course they fix a ton of stuff and added new content then I might come back
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2091	Posted - 2013.10.02 14:29:00 - [32] - Quote My Opinion Parson you are right, I mostly play Halo 2 now....Halo 2 However, this is a Free to play game and even waiting the game off has benefits. Your passive SP is always surmounting so as soon as you here something interesting came to dust you can log right back on and have probably a good bank of SP to play with, earned grind free. The battlefields are not dynamic.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2009	Posted - 2013.10.13 10:55:00 - [33] - Quote I'm not interested in PVE but aside from that...Parson is right. There is nothing that is going to bring new players and old players back except for NEW CONTENT. The new sockets in 1.4 were awesome and it brought some excitement. But I think that a totally new game mode with new maps is a great start. Let's get a brand new build in here in the future. Would hate to see Uprising 1.25
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4021	Posted - 2013.10.13 11:21:00 - [34] - Quote Sad thing about this whole thing is, even when they're focusing on fixing stuff, it gets delayed and pushed back. So while they fixing stuff, and can't complete them on schedule, it pushes the possibility of new content even further back. DUST needed new content months ago. Heavies been using the same gun and suit for over a year and a half now (closed beta), and the class has gotten worse, as time goes on. They're the dejected progeny of DUST, and it's funny because this game is suppose to be about diversity In general the lack of racial weapons, suits, and vehicles is disappointing. CCP sold people a lie tbh. Where's weapon customization? Where's the painbucket? Remember those? This is no longer about doom and gloom, it's more a reality at this point. Yes PS3 has a large players base, but that means nothing when no one is playing your game! Old players that left, most aren't coming back anytime soon, and new players don't / won't stick around. DUST will hover on 3000-3500 max people online at any given time, until this game gets on PS4. It's a dying game on a dying console right now.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 300	Posted - 2013.10.13 12:37:00 - [35] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: What would be the best bang for the buck in terms of new/revised content in the short term? Foxfour and crew are cooking up something for faction warfare, so maybe there's something there in terms of new gameplay. Its still just fiddling with dials, its still just Skirmish. They need to go large and introduce 2-3 completely new game modes: 1) The equivalent of TF2's payload maps - one of the heaviest played game modes in TF2 and mind-bogglingly fun (I understand Skirmish 1.0 is sort of like this?) 2) The equivalent of Unreal Tournaments Assault mode, somewhat similar to payload but more focused on fighting into bases rather than convoying, also insanely fun. 3) A high speed roving game type like Rabbit from Halo/Unreal or just some lore-disguised version of Capture the Flag. CTF is a totally different dynamic to point capture which is mostly just a variant of King-of-the-Hill.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1341	Posted - 2013.10.13 12:49:00 - [36] - Quote Hang on so RND talks about new content etc yet reasons for leaving PC is because of lag and other things Frankly id prefer for the core of the game to be playable, reduce LAG as much as possible and balance what we have then add in new content Adding in broken new content isnt well recieved, look at flaylocks Problem with this comunity is that they want content to be added but if lag pops up or the core mechanics aint working then they complain about that ie hit detection, basically they want it all without having to sacrifice anything for it thinking they have the resources like EA does
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis 647	Posted - 2013.10.13 13:44:00 - [37] - Quote I can confirm that what Parson said is right. The same thing has happened with PHI. Almost all of our conversation has shifted to 'what are we playing next' while we get on Dust now and again simply because of the squad size. Almost all of the talk centers around either BF4, Destiny or The Division. There is simply nothing left to do in the game but grind. As far as new content and balance, why not simply create a test server? That solves two things - It shows that new content is on the way which appeases those that feel its lacking - It keeps the balance of the game in order while allowing players to test for bugs and balance outside of it Aside from vehicles, what is really left to balance other than a few tweaks here and there to suits/weapons? The only other class that needs work is scouts and I think that can be done by boosting their PG/CPU and giving them their second equipment slot back in higher tiers.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 440	Posted - 2013.10.13 14:10:00 - [38] - Quote Modes and Maps Modes and Maps Modes and Maps Modes and Maps Modes and Maps Modes and Maps Modes and Maps Modes and Maps Modes and Maps Modes and Maps ...goes the beat of the drum until my hands and ears bleed.
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 805	Posted - 2013.10.13 15:00:00 - [39] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Hang on so RND talks about new content etc yet reasons for leaving PC is because of lag and other things Frankly id prefer for the core of the game to be playable, reduce LAG as much as possible and balance what we have then add in new content Adding in broken new content isnt well recieved, look at flaylocks Problem with this comunity is that they want content to be added but if lag pops up or the core mechanics aint working then they complain about that ie hit detection, basically they want it all without having to sacrifice anything for it thinking they have the resources like EA does Our reasons for leaving PC are here. You'll notice it doesn't mention lag or framerate drops, though those can certainly be annoying. It should also be noted that I made this thread about two weeks ago. Regarding core mechanics, I think the game is doing pretty well in those areas--at least better than we're doing content-wise. The focus of every patch up to now (and including at least 1.6) is and will be core mechanics. It's not as if the game launched with a whole bunch of maps and modes and we can ignore it in favor of core mechanics for months on end. As for broken content, the last maps they added were much better than their previous ones, the only major problem being they're too spread out for 16v16. Everyone likes to talk about how the flaylock was broken, but the scrambler rifle was really well balanced and they were introduced at the same time.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2010	Posted - 2013.10.13 23:08:00 - [40] - Quote Parson Atreides wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Hang on so RND talks about new content etc yet reasons for leaving PC is because of lag and other things Frankly id prefer for the core of the game to be playable, reduce LAG as much as possible and balance what we have then add in new content Adding in broken new content isnt well recieved, look at flaylocks Problem with this comunity is that they want content to be added but if lag pops up or the core mechanics aint working then they complain about that ie hit detection, basically they want it all without having to sacrifice anything for it thinking they have the resources like EA does Our reasons for leaving PC are here. You'll notice it doesn't mention lag or framerate drops, though those can certainly be annoying. It should also be noted that I made this thread about two weeks ago. Regarding core mechanics, I think the game is doing pretty well in those areas--at least better than we're doing content-wise. The focus of every patch up to now (and including at least 1.6) is and will be core mechanics. It's not as if the game launched with a whole bunch of maps and modes and we can ignore it in favor of core mechanics for months on end. As for broken content, the last maps they added were much better than their previous ones, the only major problem being they're too spread out for 16v16. Everyone likes to talk about how the flaylock was broken, but the scrambler rifle was really well balanced and they were introduced at the same time. Exactly...who mentioned anything about lag? Swear him and his man needs to get some ***** and stop hanging on RND's nuts. Constantly looking for a reason to talk bullshit. Anyway back on topic...every fps shooter that I've ever played has lag in it. Dust has framerate drops in pc, which they can focus on but even when they fix that, it will not bring back any old players. ....nor, will it bring in any new ones. Only way to sustain and increase the playerbase is to give new content. Who wants to be downloading fixes every month for another half year? Fixes should be rolled in as soon as CCP has developed them and not for the next patch. I don't know anything about passing Sony's regulations or getting their approval but hotfixes should be used to fixed core mechanics and not new patches. New patches should have, more or less, new content.

Kiro Justice The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 510	Posted - 2013.10.13 23:20:00 - [41] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Thus this thread proves that you should stick to your own plans. People screamed fix the core for like 6 months and now ccp are two months into that effort people are screaming more content. All that said OMG GIVES US MORE STUFF But do it on your plan and stick to it clearly trying to please the fourm has just got you into more of a mess It was broken back then. If their plan is any indication, you'll be playing the same game modes till 2015. I say 'You'll' because it'll only be you here.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2938	Posted - 2013.10.13 23:29:00 - [42] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Thus this thread proves that you should stick to your own plans. People screamed fix the core for like 6 months and now ccp are two months into that effort people are screaming more content. All that said OMG GIVES US MORE STUFF But do it on your plan and stick to it clearly trying to please the fourm has just got you into more of a mess It was broken back then. If their plan is any indication, you'll be playing the same game modes till 2015. I say 'You'll' because it'll only be you here. I'll be here making sure the FW dust modifier is eternally set to benefit the Amarr.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1350	Posted - 2013.10.14 11:47:00 - [43] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Parson Atreides wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Hang on so RND talks about new content etc yet reasons for leaving PC is because of lag and other things Frankly id prefer for the core of the game to be playable, reduce LAG as much as possible and balance what we have then add in new content Adding in broken new content isnt well recieved, look at flaylocks Problem with this comunity is that they want content to be added but if lag pops up or the core mechanics aint working then they complain about that ie hit detection, basically they want it all without having to sacrifice anything for it thinking they have the resources like EA does Our reasons for leaving PC are here. You'll notice it doesn't mention lag or framerate drops, though those can certainly be annoying. It should also be noted that I made this thread about two weeks ago. Regarding core mechanics, I think the game is doing pretty well in those areas--at least better than we're doing content-wise. The focus of every patch up to now (and including at least 1.6) is and will be core mechanics. It's not as if the game launched with a whole bunch of maps and modes and we can ignore it in favor of core mechanics for months on end. As for broken content, the last maps they added were much better than their previous ones, the only major problem being they're too spread out for 16v16. Everyone likes to talk about how the flaylock was broken, but the scrambler rifle was really well balanced and they were introduced at the same time. Exactly...who mentioned anything about lag? Swear him and his man needs to get some ***** and stop hanging on RND's nuts. Constantly looking for a reason to talk bullshit. Anyway back on topic...every fps shooter that I've ever played has lag in it. Dust has framerate drops in pc, which they can focus on but even when they fix that, it will not bring back any old players. ....nor, will it bring in any new ones. Only way to sustain and increase the playerbase is to give new content. Who wants to be downloading fixes every month for another half year? Fixes should be rolled in as soon as CCP has developed them and not for the next patch. I don't know anything about passing Sony's regulations or getting their approval but hotfixes should be used to fixed core mechanics and not new patches. New patches should have, more or less, new content. Frankly i mention RND and LAG because last game in PC i heard the words 'its so laggy' or 'im suffering from lag' and other variations and it came from you Hence why i kinda find it rich that RND as a whole agrees in adding more content when the core of the game is kinda broken, IE lag and framerate drops in PC


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