DUST Search - Using Nova Knifes tips/tricks guide

mr musturd wrote:

Shotty GoBang wrote:

Tectonic Fusion wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak?

complex shields stacked kin cats stacked. But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you.

Great post, Draxus. +1
Huge respect for all you Knifers ... embracing the hardest version of Hard Mode. You guys rock :-)

Q: But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you?
A: Maken Tosch is one of the best and definitely the most experienced. Radar R4D-47, J0LLY R0G3R, Travi Zyg and DoubleTap420, Cyrius Li-Moody are other high-ranking Ninjas; quite a few more climbing the ranks. Everyone's excited about the "specific improvements to NKs" coming soon ... still looking forward to the "lunge mechanic" floated by CCP a couple months back.

Q: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak?
A: Can't speak from firsthand experience, but I've witnessed DoubleTap and Travi Zyg cleaning up a few times on this (dreaded) map. Tap runs Tac AR or ScR with his Knives. Roams perimeter hills around the enemy, clears out snipers, pot-shots and lures from behind enemy lines. Travi runs Nades, Knives and SMG (if I recall correctly) on a biotic fit ... flanks and engages piles of red-dots ... no idea how he does it, but its always fun to watch.

shotty how u gonna forget me bro? i been knifing since chromo Blink

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Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1504	Posted - 2013.10.01 02:21:00 - [1] - Quote using NK is extremly difficult but now that I'm pretty good with them (first on scoreboard alot) I've decided to give some tips 1. allways use scout suit (I reccomend using STD at first because when your learning how to use knives you will die alot which might be pricy to use ADV or PRO) 2 always carry active scanner 3.use zn 28 or above 4.always flank 5. go for mostly alone players (if you do kill a guy in a group run right away because chances are if they're in a group its there squad and the enemy you killed will immediatly call you out) what happens if you run into a guy? 1.run like a ***** 2. if he's not a heavy run around the corner and charge your knives, he's likely to chase you thinking you're a easy kill, stab him right when he turns the corner 2 more tips 1. do not use the active scanner in the open, if your sneaking up on someone in the middle of nowhere and use your scanner the guy you're trying to get him because it says "You Have Been Scanned" and they will look around,see you and kill you the 2nd biggest most important rule goes against alot of players style don't stay near any area for a while and don't stay in friendly groups the farther from your team the harder it will be to get spotted the first most imoprtant rule? is a secret :)
Scary Scout Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2013.10.01 02:32:00 - [2] - Quote +1
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4652	Posted - 2013.10.01 02:34:00 - [3] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: using NK is extremly difficult but now that I'm pretty good with them (first on scoreboard alot) I've decided to give some tips 1. allways use scout suit (I reccomend using STD at first because when your learning how to use knives you will die alot which might be pricy to use ADV or PRO) 2 always carry active scanner 3.use zn 28 or above 4.always flank 5. go for mostly alone players (if you do kill a guy in a group run right away because chances are if they're in a group its there squad and the enemy you killed will immediatly call you out) what happens if you run into a guy? 1.run like a ***** 2. if he's not a heavy run around the corner and charge your knives, he's likely to chase you thinking you're a easy kill, stab him right when he turns the corner 2 more tips 1. do not use the active scanner in the open, if your sneaking up on someone in the middle of nowhere and use your scanner the guy you're trying to get him because it says "You Have Been Scanned" and they will look around,see you and kill you the 2nd biggest most important rule goes against alot of players style don't stay near any area for a while and don't stay in friendly groups the farther from your team the harder it will be to get spotted the first most imoprtant rule? is a secret :) But I'm a heavy so what happens then
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1506	Posted - 2013.10.01 02:37:00 - [4] - Quote you will die a painful death warlord :(
8213 Grade No.2 308	Posted - 2013.10.01 02:39:00 - [5] - Quote My guide: 1. Don't use them 2. Prepare to die and be useless 3. Eat my SCR
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4653	Posted - 2013.10.01 02:40:00 - [6] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: you will die a painful death warlord :( Only if you got behind me
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1508	Posted - 2013.10.01 02:45:00 - [7] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: you will die a painful death warlord :( Only if you got behind me one day I will get you...
ALPHA DECRIPTER R 0 N 1 N 561	Posted - 2013.10.01 03:12:00 - [8] - Quote This belongs in "Rookie Training Grounds", don't you think? `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 268	Posted - 2013.10.01 04:16:00 - [9] - Quote This is what I do for my CRG/ZN cheap fit on my advanced caldari xD
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4339	Posted - 2013.10.01 04:28:00 - [10] - Quote Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak?

Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 269	Posted - 2013.10.01 04:30:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? complex shields stacked kin cats stacked. But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4339	Posted - 2013.10.01 04:35:00 - [12] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? complex shields stacked kin cats stacked. But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you. In enclosed cities, yes. But in open maps like Manus peak, the kin Kats are useless if a sniper spots me or if a heavy sees me and the nearest cover is too far away.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1512	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:07:00 - [13] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? what i mostly do on manus peak is either stay in thee letters, go sniper hunting or find some cover show myself to the enemy than one they come to kill me run around the whole cover and stab their backs or in your example of manus peak on those big rocks do what I said above but instead run up the rock,charge your knifes and jump on them
OZAROW warravens League of Infamy 771	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:43:00 - [14] - Quote Tip: no speed! Speed was the $hit in 1.1, 1.2 things got broke,1.3 we suffered every aspect, 1.4 smg/sg is king, 1.5 waiting, 1.6 everyone screams nk an sg are op! Speed seems to do more bad than good, I just don't feel 1.1 fast anymore so I changed, I tried many things on my fit an also have both scouts proto an this is what I have noticed. Shields suck! They drop to fast an they come up too slow. Gallente has hardly any an minmatar has hardly any armor , they are the reverse of each other with one major difference. Gallente has more HP an more CPU an the min is about .30 faster after you level biotics to 5. So that means your mini runs 8.36 without speed Gallente about 7.78 or something ( top of my head maybe it's 8.01 who knows) but the gallente needs armor for HP an speed to even that out, I believe a complex armor will land you almost 300 armor an a complex red will balance you around 8.56 or something. Now with a min being shield based an them dropping so fast your armor gets chiseled , too many times you die, especially when ur scanner takes your compact spot. So ur shields drop ur running with 30 armor praying they come back soon, an buddy is chasing you. Now their up u have 270 shields 30 armor, scanning to see his direction is gonna get you dead, next encounter might kill you now you gotta replace armor, one more hard encounter your dead especially a scr. Now your desperate, you can't hide, your confidence is dropping because your knives are gonna make you hasty, your suits fast, too fast, so when you attack your movement speed makes you miss. Drop the speed, drop the cardiac, use a adv shield regulator an a armor rep( yes especially on the mini)! Scouts need full health always! I tested the reg by jumping off a building, 1 one thousand 2 one thousand, shields up! And with a enhanced rep with level 5 your full again before your shields practically. This way you have the element of SUPRISE ! Hurt scout I'm gonna chase him! Comes around corner to a fully recovered pis$ed off scout just waiting! WTF! It's even better when your holding a shotgun! Now the gallente can take a better beating BUT with the reverse scenario see now you get hurt with less shields mor armor. So you need your shields to come back ASAP so they can cover your healing armor, this way as your shields are being hit back down again your armor is coming up! An you have mor of it and it's stronger! Unles u get blown to bits. Now this is the key to knifing , shotguning , scouting, you need the sheiks deplete delay fast as hell an armor reps. This makes gallente the stronger suit, in a sense but not the proto. The adv gallente can have over 200 shields an over 160 armor, with a enhanced shield reg an armor rep, I dropped one after the other with a sg for a 12 kill streak of non stop action, in the open by tuning an ducking for 2/3 whole seconds an boom full health. Now with the gk0 you could run 1 c. Red Complex shield reg Complex armor Complex armor rep Complex shield, Scanner Nades Knives Smg an still have mor HP than Mk0 3c shield Same weapons An complex reg an armor rep I actually don't think that would fit unless ur maxed on all reductions an core pluses. So test my reg an rep theory , thank me later;p
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1618	Posted - 2013.11.02 17:56:00 - [15] - Quote bump because nova knife hit detection buff in 1.6 Forum Warrior Level 1 The Master of the Nova Knifes and The Spammer of the Scanner The Scary Scout
Cpl Foster USMC Molden Heath Mafia 297	Posted - 2013.11.02 18:12:00 - [16] - Quote i just started with them this week...love it and may stay with them for a while. no scout suit yet. i got the zn's, Min Logi, 3 damage mods, 2 speed boosts, and a profile dampner. all mods complex or enhanced... any advice..?.. and i use your ohter tips already, so whats that secret ? send it in game e-mail. i pay well...
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1910	Posted - 2013.11.02 18:58:00 - [17] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? complex shields stacked kin cats stacked. But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you. Great post, Draxus. +1 Huge respect for all you Knifers ... embracing the hardest version of Hard Mode. You guys rock :-) Q: But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you? A: Maken Tosch is one of the best and definitely the most experienced. Radar R4D-47, J0LLY R0G3R, Travi Zyg and DoubleTap420, Cyrius Li-Moody are other high-ranking Ninjas; quite a few more climbing the ranks. Everyone's excited about the "specific improvements to NKs" coming soon ... still looking forward to the "lunge mechanic" floated by CCP a couple months back. Q: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? A: Can't speak from firsthand experience, but I've witnessed DoubleTap and Travi Zyg cleaning up a few times on this (dreaded) map. Tap runs Tac AR or ScR with his Knives. Roams perimeter hills around the enemy, clears out snipers, pot-shots and lures from behind enemy lines. Travi runs Nades, Knives and SMG (if I recall correctly) on a biotic fit ... flanks and engages piles of red-dots ... no idea how he does it, but its always fun to watch.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1025	Posted - 2013.11.02 19:29:00 - [18] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? complex shields stacked kin cats stacked. But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you. In enclosed cities, yes. But in open maps like Manus peak, the kin Kats are useless if a sniper spots me or if a heavy sees me and the nearest cover is too far away. Use a ranged weapon , basic reactive plates for no speed penalties an armor regen, remotes, stay close to your squad but hide next to where they are, attack in the chaos then back to your hiding spot, an leave remotes where everyone's fighting
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR The Kaos Legion 358	Posted - 2013.11.02 19:58:00 - [19] - Quote i made a thread just like this in 1.3. good to see another more updated one. How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 314	Posted - 2013.11.02 20:10:00 - [20] - Quote Manus Peak is one of my fun maps for KnifingGÇª. two reasons 1. So many people make themselves stationary targets on that map I run Gal Scout with knives passive radar makes it like hunting uplinks, my db is low enough to not show up on most others 2. The vast majority of players follow the same routes. Go the way that nobody goes, but go to where everybody sets up, also known as take the scenic route. If you start at the top move around counter clockwise, if you start at the bottom go clockwise. once you get to the open area at the bottom turn around and go back, the people you just killed will be right where you killed them last time. Hope that helps somebody

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4890	Posted - 2013.11.02 20:22:00 - [21] - Quote Now that we are literally three days away from the 1.6 update with the "specific improvements to nova knife hit detection" (whichever that is) this is a good time to bring this back up. I have been recently going back to using the nova knives on a strict basis so that I can remind myself of the feel of the weapon BEFORE 1.6 comes and then use that experience as a baseline to see what improvements in particular CCP has made to the nova knives. With the incoming buff to passive scan range, I can say that you Gallente Scout folks who have prototype suits are lucky. Here's why: Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1450540#post1450540 Aero Yassavi wrote: Range Amplifiers have stacking penalties. So here how it works: Gal Scout Pre-1.7 Max Skills: 22.5 meters 1 complex mod: 32.625 meters 2 complex mod: 45.38 meters 3 complex mod: 57.04 meters 4 complex mod: 64.31 meters Min Scout Pre-1.7 Max Skills: 15 meters 1 complex mod: 21.75 meters 2 complex mod: 30.26 meters Gal Scout Post-1.7 Max Skills: 36 meters 1 complex mod: 52.2 meters 2 complex mod: 72.61 meters 3 complex mod: 91.27 meters 4 complex mod: 102.89 meters Min Scout Post-1.7 Max Skills: 24 meters 1 complex mod: 34.8 meters 2 complex mod: 48.41 meters I think the author of this post made a typo. The range buff is coming in 1.6, not 1.7. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1623	Posted - 2013.11.02 20:46:00 - [22] - Quote can't wait to use a cloak on my suit Forum Warrior Level 1 The Master of the Nova Knifes and The Spammer of the Scanner The Scary Scout
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 55	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:01:00 - [23] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? complex shields stacked kin cats stacked. But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you. Great post, Draxus. +1 Huge respect for all you Knifers ... embracing the hardest version of Hard Mode. You guys rock :-) Q: But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you? A: Maken Tosch is one of the best and definitely the most experienced. Radar R4D-47, J0LLY R0G3R, Travi Zyg and DoubleTap420, Cyrius Li-Moody are other high-ranking Ninjas; quite a few more climbing the ranks. Everyone's excited about the "specific improvements to NKs" coming soon ... still looking forward to the "lunge mechanic" floated by CCP a couple months back. Q: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? A: Can't speak from firsthand experience, but I've witnessed DoubleTap and Travi Zyg cleaning up a few times on this (dreaded) map. Tap runs Tac AR or ScR with his Knives. Roams perimeter hills around the enemy, clears out snipers, pot-shots and lures from behind enemy lines. Travi runs Nades, Knives and SMG (if I recall correctly) on a biotic fit ... flanks and engages piles of red-dots ... no idea how he does it, but its always fun to watch. shotty how u gonna forget me bro? i been knifing since chromo
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1927	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:34:00 - [24] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Question: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? complex shields stacked kin cats stacked. But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you. Great post, Draxus. +1 Huge respect for all you Knifers ... embracing the hardest version of Hard Mode. You guys rock :-) Q: But you are already a high ranking knifer, aren't you? A: Maken Tosch is one of the best and definitely the most experienced. Radar R4D-47, J0LLY R0G3R, Travi Zyg and DoubleTap420, Cyrius Li-Moody are other high-ranking Ninjas; quite a few more climbing the ranks. Everyone's excited about the "specific improvements to NKs" coming soon ... still looking forward to the "lunge mechanic" floated by CCP a couple months back. Q: What tips do you suggest for being an effective knifer in extremely open maps such as Manus peak? A: Can't speak from firsthand experience, but I've witnessed DoubleTap and Travi Zyg cleaning up a few times on this (dreaded) map. Tap runs Tac AR or ScR with his Knives. Roams perimeter hills around the enemy, clears out snipers, pot-shots and lures from behind enemy lines. Travi runs Nades, Knives and SMG (if I recall correctly) on a biotic fit ... flanks and engages piles of red-dots ... no idea how he does it, but its always fun to watch. shotty how u gonna forget me bro? i been knifing since chromo ! No idea how I forgot to mention you. Please add Mr Musturd to the list :-)
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1628	Posted - 2013.11.03 22:50:00 - [25] - Quote wanna knife squad some day guys? Forum Warrior Level 1 The Master of the Nova Knifes and The Spammer of the Scanner The Scary Scout
VAHZZ Villore Sec Ops 6	Posted - 2013.11.03 23:11:00 - [26] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: wanna knife squad some day guys? Nova Ninjas United - the knifiest of the knives Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness.
DeadlyAztec11 Gallente Federation 2358	Posted - 2013.11.04 00:06:00 - [27] - Quote When I run out of ammo, I just do a banzai! and suicide attack lol "THERE IS A NO DEATH WITHOUT HONOR!" "It's because of people like you that I became this. And you'll never give me a reason to become someone else."
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1734	Posted - 2013.11.14 23:51:00 - [28] - Quote bump Forum Warrior Level 1 The Master of the Nova Knifes, The Spammer of the Scanner and The Scary Scout Closed Beta Vet


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