DUST Search - Merc packs changing? BPOs all going off-market?

Zeylon Rho wrote:

ladwar wrote:

Zeylon Rho wrote:

ladwar wrote:

am i the only one who read it? they said the are removing the AUR blueprints from the market, not the pack and that the packs are staying.

The display on the far right of the storefront says, and I quote:

"Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8."

You didn't read it. Of course, that's ambiguous as to whether that's just the regular Merc pack or all the Merc packs, since they're all called "Mercenary Pack".

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unread

HTFU

HTFU with respect to you not reading things? There's nothing in their post which contradicts the fact that in-game it says:

"Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8."

It only says you can still get BPOs from Veteran/Elite packs. If nothing else, because the Mercenary (regular pack) has BPOs now, it suggests that after Oct. 8.... it will no longer have them (or exist, one of the two). The Vet/Elite packs may or may not change, since their language is ambiguous, but they'll have BPOs either way.

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Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2556	Posted - 2013.09.30 12:50:00 - [1] - Quote Market messages suggest both that: "Last chance to buy blueprints in marketplace. Stock up before Oct 8." and a similar message: "Last chance to buy Merc Packs, stock up before Oct. 8." I'm paraphrasing, but that's the general gist of it. So, are ALL BPOs actually leaving the marketplace?That's one matter... or is that referring to the Merc packs going away? I think it's important clarify what you're talking about here. What exactly are the Merc packs being replaced with? The last time the merc packs "went away", pretty much everything in them wound up on the marketplace a la carte in a more convenient fashion. If someone only "kinda" wants stuff in an elite/vet pack, they might want to wait a week to get Aurum that way to pay for Omega Boosters or whatever. It's a conflict between "there a couple things in an Elite pack I could use" and "Oct.8 every single item in a new 'Elite' pack will be new as-of-yet-unreleased gear - and you'd be a freaking idiot to pay now when you could just pick up those two items on the cheap when they get thrown onto the market like last time". Is this something that could get cleared up? This is aside from the fact that you're about to retire a $100 Merc pack that you never fixed the stats on.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 521	Posted - 2013.09.30 12:53:00 - [2] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unread and they are probably just removing merc pack.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1528	Posted - 2013.09.30 12:57:00 - [3] - Quote They just forcing you to buy the Packs instead of individual BPO's. I hope you will also adjust the prices for the "Packs" CCP.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2556	Posted - 2013.09.30 12:57:00 - [4] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unread and they are probably just removing merc pack. Well, that answers the question about the old merc pack items winding up on the market I guess. I guess it would be too much to ask for them to fix the Dren weapons or tell us what's going to be in the "new" Merc packs after October 8th.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1024	Posted - 2013.09.30 12:57:00 - [5] - Quote hmmm.....buying just aurum feels like a bit of a waste but I guess we'll see what happens....
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1523	Posted - 2013.09.30 13:00:00 - [6] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: I guess it would be too much to ask for them to fix the Dren weapons or tell us what's going to be in the "new" Merc packs after October 8th. What's wrong with the Dren weapons?
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1361	Posted - 2013.09.30 13:21:00 - [7] - Quote Appears to me like phase one of the player market (and hopefully EVE manufacturing of dust equipment) implementation.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1028	Posted - 2013.09.30 13:25:00 - [8] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Appears to me like phase one of the player market (and hopefully EVE manufacturing of dust equipment) implementation. I sure hope so.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 163	Posted - 2013.09.30 13:31:00 - [9] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Appears to me like phase one of the player market (and hopefully EVE manufacturing of dust equipment) implementation. BWAH HAHAHA! Omg you kill me! Although this would be amazing, and I really want it to happen, Ihighly doubt it. ...but seriously I have officer weapons to sell.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1524	Posted - 2013.09.30 13:52:00 - [10] - Quote Vyzion Eyri wrote: Appears to me like phase one of the player market (and hopefully EVE manufacturing of dust equipment) implementation. Yeah, it took them awhile but it needed to happen. More fuel for my personal speculation that a big, named release is in the works. I believe a fair number of EVE devs were hired into the DUST team and just maybe they got stuff done.

Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2557	Posted - 2013.09.30 13:55:00 - [11] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: I guess it would be too much to ask for them to fix the Dren weapons or tell us what's going to be in the "new" Merc packs after October 8th. What's wrong with the Dren weapons? All the Dren (and indeed, all Merc pack items) are of STD quality. They basically don't deviate from this at all. Exile = Dren = Toxin = Assault Rifle (plain std-level one). It's in the item descriptions as well "Variant of Standard {whatever} used by elite forces. However, with the Swarm Launcher and Scrambler Pistol in particular, they used the MLT fitting numbers. Typically, fitting is one of the ONLY differences between MLT and STD items, so the Swarm Launcher and Scrambler Pistol are gimped versions despite all other Merc pack items (and the item descriptions) claiming they're standard-level items. This changes a STD Scrambler Pistol from 11 CPU 2 PG to 20 CPU 5 PG. The Swarm Launcher has the same issue. It acts as a Bait-n-Switch as well. STD-level Assault Rifle and Shotgun BPOs existed prior to the Dren pack (there've been many many AR BPOs for whatever reason). The only two "new" weapon BPOs were the specific weapons that received gimped MLT versions (with descriptions claiming they're STD used by elite forces). The other part of the bait-n-switch is the lack of value in MLT BPO of either. EVERY SINGLE PLAYER in the game gets what amounts to a free MLT Swarm Launcher on their Anti-Armor Starter Fit. Multiple starter fits already have the same for a Scrambler Pistol MLT-level as well. So, two of the most theoretically appealing items have incorrect stats that can trick people into spending money on them without getting the item they're thinking they're getting. The problem got acknowledged 2 months after the release, and now another 2 months later they're ready to retire the merc pack without ever putting in the rudimentary intro-to-excel fix for the stats in the 5 months the product has been out.
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:17:00 - [12] - Quote Be interesting to see what the new merc packs offer. Must admit i would have liked to have picked up the big -ú80 pack at somepoint simply for the aurum and boosters but i guess i'll have to see how the new packs work out
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2558	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:19:00 - [13] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Be interesting to see what the new merc packs offer. Must admit i would have liked to have picked up the big -ú80 pack at somepoint simply for the aurum and boosters but i guess i'll have to see how the new packs work out I'd like them to fix the stats in their $100 bundle before spending money on some new merc pack.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1771	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:21:00 - [14] - Quote am i the only one who read it? they said the are removing the AUR blueprints from the market, not the pack and that the packs are staying.
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards 220	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:34:00 - [15] - Quote ITS THE DEATH OF THE BPO!!!!!! AGHHHHH!!!! panicking; runs to two exile AR BPO Shhh! Shhh! its ok. Your safe in daddy's arms.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2559	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:34:00 - [16] - Quote ladwar wrote: am i the only one who read it? they said the are removing the AUR blueprints from the market, not the pack and that the packs are staying. The display on the far right of the storefront says, and I quote: "Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8." You didn't read it.
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards 220	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:41:00 - [17] - Quote ladwar wrote: am i the only one who read it? they said the are removing the AUR blueprints from the market, not the pack and that the packs are staying. he also said only veteran and elite packs will have BPOs.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1771	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:48:00 - [18] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: ladwar wrote: am i the only one who read it? they said the are removing the AUR blueprints from the market, not the pack and that the packs are staying. The display on the far right of the storefront says, and I quote: "Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8." You didn't read it. Of course, that's ambiguous as to whether that's just the regular Merc pack or all the Merc packs, since they're all called "Mercenary Pack". https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unread HTFU
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1525	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:49:00 - [19] - Quote ladwar wrote: am i the only one who read it? they said the are removing the AUR blueprints from the market, not the pack and that the packs are staying. Read? Yes. Comprehend? Seems like very few.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2563	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:51:00 - [20] - Quote ladwar wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: ladwar wrote: am i the only one who read it? they said the are removing the AUR blueprints from the market, not the pack and that the packs are staying. The display on the far right of the storefront says, and I quote: "Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8." You didn't read it. Of course, that's ambiguous as to whether that's just the regular Merc pack or all the Merc packs, since they're all called "Mercenary Pack". https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unread HTFU HTFU with respect to you not reading things? There's nothing in their post which contradicts the fact that in-game it says: "Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8." It only says you can still get BPOs from Veteran/Elite packs. If nothing else, because the Mercenary (regular pack) has BPOs now, it suggests that after Oct. 8.... it will no longer have them (or exist, one of the two). The Vet/Elite packs may or may not change, since their language is ambiguous, but they'll have BPOs either way.

Aran Abbas Goonfeet Top Men. 285	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:52:00 - [21] - Quote Lazy and deceitful; it would have taken about ten minutes to fix the stats on the Dren weapons.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1771	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:55:00 - [22] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: ladwar wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: ladwar wrote: am i the only one who read it? they said the are removing the AUR blueprints from the market, not the pack and that the packs are staying. The display on the far right of the storefront says, and I quote: "Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8." You didn't read it. Of course, that's ambiguous as to whether that's just the regular Merc pack or all the Merc packs, since they're all called "Mercenary Pack". https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112962&find=unread HTFU HTFU with respect to you not reading things? There's nothing in their post which contradicts the fact that in-game it says: "Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8." It only says you can still get BPOs from Veteran/Elite packs. If nothing else, because the Mercenary (regular pack) has BPOs now, it suggests that after Oct. 8.... it will no longer have them (or exist, one of the two). The Vet/Elite packs may or may not change, since their language is ambiguous, but they'll have BPOs either way. go and riot and murder CCP then.. go right now and fly there. that's about as productive as you are right now on it.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2563	Posted - 2013.09.30 14:58:00 - [23] - Quote The point here was mostly to keep you from spreading incorrect information while claiming other people are lax/unintelligent for not similarly reaching your erroneous conclusions.
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2013.09.30 15:19:00 - [24] - Quote TBH CCP could do with being a little more descriptive when they announce stuff like this. Its not the first time they've made announcements in both DUST and EVE that have caused mass confusion. it makes me wonder if they are just swapping out the content of the elite and veteran packs, the 4 militia BPOs with Veteran instead of the covenant gear and the valor, raven and sever suit along with perhaps a new heavy BPO in the elite pack and then offering up individual packs for groups of militia bpos (weapons, vehicles, dropsuit mods, vehicle mods ect)
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2563	Posted - 2013.09.30 15:26:00 - [25] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: TBH CCP could do with being a little more descriptive when they announce stuff like this. Its not the first time they've made announcements in both DUST and EVE that have caused mass confusion. it makes me wonder if they are just swapping out the content of the elite and veteran packs, the 4 militia BPOs with Veteran instead of the covenant gear and the valor, raven and sever suit along with perhaps a new heavy BPO in the elite pack and then offering up individual packs for groups of militia bpos (weapons, vehicles, dropsuit mods, vehicle mods ect) It wouldn't hurt them to be more descriptive, especially considering that so much of this is time-limited and people only have a week to figure out what's going on...
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack 490	Posted - 2013.09.30 15:34:00 - [26] - Quote Where did you read "Merc packs are changing"? The announcement is pretty clear that they are removing BPOs from general sale and keeping them available in Veteran and Elite packs. There was no mention of Merc packs, which means they're likely being removed.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 222	Posted - 2013.09.30 15:34:00 - [27] - Quote calisk galern wrote: hmmm.....buying just aurum feels like a bit of a waste but I guess we'll see what happens.... Haha Calisk, you didn't know? It's always been a waste to buy arum!
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2563	Posted - 2013.09.30 15:40:00 - [28] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: Where did you read "Merc packs are changing"? The announcement is pretty clear that they are removing BPOs from general sale and keeping them available in Veteran and Elite packs. There was no mention of Merc packs, which means they're likely being removed. I've already repeated it a few times, but... If you turn on the game right now, and go to the market, look on the right side of the storefront. You'll see a picture of the merc pack with a scrolling message that says: "Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8." As noted, that may or may not suggest that the Merc pack is leaving for good or being replaced with another Merc pack that doesn't have BPOs. It can be inferred that if the Merc pack is replaced by a new regular Merc pack after the 8th though, it won't have any BPOs from the CCP post saying that Vet/Elite packs will still have them (conspicuous lack of regular merc pack in that description). It is also unclear if "last week to buy Merc pack" refers to all Merc packs changing, as they could change the contents of the Vet/Elite packs to other different BPOs and still have their post about BPO changes be true.
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack 490	Posted - 2013.09.30 15:47:00 - [29] - Quote "Last week to buy Mercenary Pack, stock up before Oct. 8." is pretty clear that they are just removing Merc pack over changing it. CCP hasn't said anything about changing the content of any pack. I think you're drawing conclusions based on no evidence and drumming up a conversation of things that have no foundation. Vet and Elite packs are going to remain for sale as they are. Merc packs are being removed. That's it. That's what the information says.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 339	Posted - 2013.09.30 15:53:00 - [30] - Quote I suspect the removal of the merc pack is related to the release of the racial rifles. With those in the game, CCP will probably offer racial merc packs (that may or may not contain bpos).



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