5% reduction of scan profile per level don't cut it anymore

Now that everyone is running an adv or pro scanner I can't hide from no one

Soooo you are saying the only way to counter it is to put only dampers in my low slot( No I using them for some else

The only suit capable of counter perfectly is the gallente scout and gallente meduim frame, but they will have fill 3 to all of their low slots with dampers

But that is for the Meta 9 scanner which is no where as useful as the others and is far less common. The rest can be beat with lvl 5 scout + lvl 3 dampening + a STD dampener. Seems like a fair trade to me.

Honestly, I see no problem with there being a scanner that is ridiculously difficult or impossible to beat so long as it doesn't perform as well as the others of its tier.

5% reduction of scan profile per level don't cut it anymore

Now that everyone is running an adv or pro scanner I can't hide from no one

Soooo you are saying the only way to counter it is to put only dampers in my low slot( No I using them for some else

The only suit capable of counter perfectly is the gallente scout and gallente meduim frame, but they will have fill 3 to all of their low slots with dampers

Scans SHOULD BE SCOUT ONLY equipment. Scouts job is scanning.

This way,unless its a scout, a scout cannot be detected on radar...NEVER.
Active scanners is total BS that makes Logis even more OP.

BTW yeah i play logi now and not only im an 750 HP ADV level behemoth with 2 cx damage mods on my lv 4 proficiency CR-9 Scrambler rifle, but i alwso pack nanos,needle and active scanner. Hello scouts...

SERIOUS Bs....

Having something as an active scanner, so expensive to equip and that takes 1 equipment slot YELLS for logi. While at the same time poors scouts even at proto level they have to sacrifice 3 of their miserable slot capacity JUST IN CASE a logi decides to bring his scanner around....

Your not serious i hope.... The dev said they will try to give the logi more at the logi role, so the active scanner need to be held by anybody, heavy cant have equipment and assault cant really use it so stop now, boosting logi EHP its not intended but logi need to have access to all equipment and even bringing more equipment in the game and try to actually bringing them to a logi role

But that is for the Meta 9 scanner which is no where as useful as the others and is far less common. The rest can be beat with lvl 5 scout + lvl 3 dampening + a STD dampener. Seems like a fair trade to me.

Honestly, I see no problem with there being a scanner that is ridiculously difficult or impossible to beat so long as it doesn't perform as well as the others of its tier.

On Avoiding Meta 8 Scanners:

Debugged our earlier maths and progressions. Thanks to Void and Marauder for pointing out my error on stacking percentage bonus. So here's the updated breakdown (by level):

Level 5 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(2) + 1 Bsc Dampener = 27.54 dB
Level 4 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(3) + 1 Enh Dampener = 27.07 dB
Level 3 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(5) + 1 Enh Dampener = 27.54 dB
Level 2 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(5) + 1 Cmp Dampener = 27.34 dB
Level 1 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(5) + 2 Bsc Dampener = 27.80 dB
Light-Frames: Profile Dampening Lvl(3) + 2 Enh Dampener = 27.07 dB

* Still awaiting feedback regarding Equivalent Profile/Precision (tie goes to the runner?):
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=106274

Warning!
These are super-close to 28 dB, and we still don't know if a tie goes to the runner...can't hurt to put another point into Dampening just to be safe.

Observation:
It likely makes more long-term sense to skill further into Scout Suits than to max out Profile Dampening.

- Shotty

My demo fit logi only has one basic damp and he blocks about 25% of scans. My basic scanner gets plenty of errors as well.

I do say though there is room for a nerf but CCP is playing watch and see and gather numbers mode right now about the scanners. I'll poke CCP Wolfman see what he thinks of it. I am very damn sure that the scanner assists are going to skyrocket the market sales of scanners. They're probably closely reaching nanohive sales now.

On paper it seems like it will work fine, scanners only get points of someone or something is killed.

I just have a feeling it will be exploited...somehow.

^I guess the most simple solution(if it is exploitable) is to give scans a cool down timer like repair tools.

5% reduction of scan profile per level don't cut it anymore

Now that everyone is running an adv or pro scanner I can't hide from no one

Soooo you are saying the only way to counter it is to put only dampers in my low slot( No I using them for some else

The only suit capable of counter perfectly is the gallente scout and gallente meduim frame, but they will have fill 3 to all of their low slots with dampers

Making the scanner scout only EQ would be fine with me. I don't have really strong feelings either way.... as a scout I wouldn't use it as it gives away the fact that I am closing in on unsuspecting prey (if they notice the 'you've been scanned' or 'scan prevented' message).

However, giving scouts a more buff profile dampening bonus. 10% per level, would be pretty fantastic. Or, drop their starting profile to a lower value. Definitely.

5% reduction of scan profile per level don't cut it anymore

Now that everyone is running an adv or pro scanner I can't hide from no one

Soooo you are saying the only way to counter it is to put only dampers in my low slot( No I using them for some else

The only suit capable of counter perfectly is the gallente scout and gallente meduim frame, but they will have fill 3 to all of their low slots with dampers

The scout bonus is more valuable than ever. You're more likely to avoid detection than in any other build.
Don't whine that you're using your lows "for something else". That's the whole point of game's RPG elements. You have to choose.

Scouts are pretty low in the slot department.

Sure, it's a choice, but you generally need "something else" in order to be effective and it will need to be fit somewhere too.

[My logi evades about a quarter of all scans with just the passive buff.

Do you run anything other than logi?

There's no point even having the higher tier scanners if scouts don't even need to try and evade them.

Right, so investing nearly 3 million SP into passive skills doesn't count as trying, then?