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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2471
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Posted - 2013.09.28 19:47:00 -
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I want Max Payne 3 Vendettas.
If you get killed by the same player, over and over and over and over........ (.etc)
You can place a vendetta on the enemy player, if you kill that player, you get a money (ISK) reward and extra XP (WP), if he kills you, he gets the same.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
40
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Posted - 2013.09.28 19:57:00 -
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ladwar wrote:****** **** ?? wow... neither the group or the leader? how about some *** ? hm... no triple k either. what about taliban ? sweet that one works. gay pride parade?
CCP your censor is on the gay pride parade. stop it!
Let's see you find all the censors! |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1735
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:00:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:ladwar wrote:****** **** ?? wow... neither the group or the leader? how about some *** ? hm... no triple k either. what about taliban ? sweet that one works. gay pride parade?
CCP your censor is on the gay pride parade. stop it! Let's see you find all the censors! i don't give a fucks about the crack head ***** censors they shouldn't censor names or groups. Stalin? oh not that one either. um... jihad? blowjob? sweet!
wait i got a list i want to tryanal anus arse ass ballsack balls bastard ***** biatch bloody blowjob blow job ******* bollok boner boob bugger bum butt buttplug clitoris **** coon crap **** damn **** dildo dyke *** feck fellate fellatio felching **** f u c k fudgepacker fudge packer flange Goddamn God damn hell homo jerk **** knobend knob end labia hey can i get a full list of censored word CCP? |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
142
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:01:00 -
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dogmanpig wrote:Bethhy wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote: give us extra points for killing someone after dying three times in a row? Thats a great idea! Rewarding someone beyond them getting passed adversity for themself's.... is a spoiled ass backward's way to give points... And very unlike the EVE universe.... Don't reward people who don't deserve it.... reward them for what they do... You can't tailor a game around making a noob "feel" better. you better, or else i'll go and play bf4 or something
Please, the moment we started catering to CoD and bf3 fanatic's is the moment this game started its downward climb to crap. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2472
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:02:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:ladwar wrote:****** **** ?? wow... neither the group or the leader? how about some *** ? hm... no triple k either. what about taliban ? sweet that one works. gay pride parade?
CCP your censor is on the gay pride parade. stop it! Let's see you find all the censors! i don't give a fucks about the crack head ***** censors they shouldn't censor names or groups. Stalin?
Yeah, what if someone's name is actually ******?
Censoring names is just dumb. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1488
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:04:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Except that precisely aligns rewards with actions that help the team... some guy is owning your team and you are the one who takes the pressure off your team.
What are the points for otherwise... we could just use integer counters tracking kills.
Throwing in things that you can't control yourself, based on how much of a contribution you make, is a way to encourage people to keep trying when things get tough. The bottom line is that 1337 red-dot I killed is only going to come back anyway. To be honest, I like to do away with the WP system to where it gives airstrikes, after all, it the only thing it does right now. I prefer it if they made it a cooldown, like they did in MAG or how they demonstrated back in the Dust keynote back at 2012's Fanfest.
You are thinking too small. The l337 red dot will often have lost his pub-stomping proto suit and is likely to come back with a cheaper fit after losing an expensive fit. If so, that's definitely worth the points.
Also, the WP's determine your rank at the end of the match which determines your share of the payout pool.
If you are worried about too many orbital bombardments then it's not hard to up the WP required to earn one -- though it might take a while. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
40
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:04:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:dogmanpig wrote:Bethhy wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote: give us extra points for killing someone after dying three times in a row? Thats a great idea! Rewarding someone beyond them getting passed adversity for themself's.... is a spoiled ass backward's way to give points... And very unlike the EVE universe.... Don't reward people who don't deserve it.... reward them for what they do... You can't tailor a game around making a noob "feel" better. you better, or else i'll go and play bf4 or something Please, the moment we started catering to CoD and bf3 fanatic's is the moment this game started its downward climb to crap.
I would personally like it if they remove aim-assist. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
40
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:11:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Except that precisely aligns rewards with actions that help the team... some guy is owning your team and you are the one who takes the pressure off your team.
What are the points for otherwise... we could just use integer counters tracking kills.
Throwing in things that you can't control yourself, based on how much of a contribution you make, is a way to encourage people to keep trying when things get tough. The bottom line is that 1337 red-dot I killed is only going to come back anyway. To be honest, I like to do away with the WP system to where it gives airstrikes, after all, it the only thing it does right now. I prefer it if they made it a cooldown, like they did in MAG or how they demonstrated back in the Dust keynote back at 2012's Fanfest. You are thinking too small. The l337 red dot will often have lost his pub-stomping proto suit and is likely to come back with a cheaper fit after losing an expensive fit. If so, that's definitely worth the points. Also, the WP's determine your rank at the end of the match which determines your share of the payout pool. If you are worried about too many orbital bombardments then it's not hard to up the WP required to earn one -- though it might take a while.
That same 1337 isn't going to reduce his/her suit in a PC match.
I meant the immediate game and not the payout, but you're right.
I do agree that the WP required for a OB should be increased with this new patch. I'd just prefer it if wasn't just a accumulative collection of WP that caused the OB, but rather a cooldown. |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
222
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:27:00 -
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While it seems like a bad idea in general, it is also just 10 WP, for something that doesn't happen often. It provides a bit of extra dopamine after a headshot kill. So to sum it up, it's dumb but fun and largely inconsequential. Nothing worth complaining about imo. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1488
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:35:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:That same 1337 isn't going to reduce his/her suit in a PC match.
I can't argue with that.
We need a conceptual break between where the new player experience happens and PC. While the game may be about PC to many most newer players won't have any reason to care about it for a very long time.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
40
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Posted - 2013.09.28 20:44:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:That same 1337 isn't going to reduce his/her suit in a PC match. I can't argue with that. We need a conceptual break between where the new player experience happens and PC. While the game may be about PC to many most newer players won't have any reason to care about it for a very long time.
And that's a problem that needs to be fixed. I don't have a solution in mind at the moment.
Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:While it seems like a bad idea in general, it is also just 10 WP, for something that doesn't happen often. It provides a bit of extra dopamine after a headshot kill. So to sum it up, it's dumb but fun and largely inconsequential. Nothing worth complaining about imo.
"It's only one thing"
This happening many times later and.................... |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
983
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:02:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:I'll entertain you, but I don't know what you want. Is it videogame examples or real world politics? Either way, I present a few examples (for the political ones, I refuse to express my opinion on it and I expect the same from everyone else): Exhibit A: The Patriot Act. Passed under Bush, expanded under Obama Exhibit B: European appeasement when Hit-lur (can't spell his name on this site ) came into power. Hit-lur kept expanding until France and Britain said he'd came too far. Exhibit C: Under Theodore Roosevelt, many Trusts (which he deemed as evil) were broken down. Under Taft, even more trusts were broken down (despite Teddy's dissatisfaction) Exhibit D: Lincoln elected--> Civil War --> Emancipation Proclamation --> War ends --> 13th Amendment Exhibit E: Battlefield 1942 has vehicles in multiplayer --> SOCOM 3 has them too now (Seth Luisi admitted to this) Exhibit F: MW2 introduces those "candy handouts", almost every FPS/TPS has done it since. Exhibit G: The praise for Bad Company 1/2 lead to the class design choose of BF3 (which in my opinion is just BC3) Exhibit H: CoD has perks! Now so does Halo Reach! Top of my head. Lots of nice examples, and historical too, but i'm gonna go out an a limb and say that you've got a wee bit more work to do before showing the relevance of pre-WW2 appeasement to CCP's game design choices ;)
Let's try controlling some variables: Fix the game desiger. I'll choose CCP. Now let's look at their only other game, EVE.
There are no WP in EVE, but CCP's design philosophy is fairly obvious: there are no perks, and every player error is punished. If it isn't punished, it means you got bulls*** lucky.
Now i do have my concerns about CCP softening up EVE lately, i hope that doesn't happen because i'll quit the game.
But for now, based on past experience with the developer, i'm not going to worry about hand-holding carebear creep in dust - although i do want to see the AA nerfed. I'm guessing it will be, hopefully in 1.6 |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
140
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:05:00 -
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Here's a question, who cares? it's extra points that weren't there before and probably didn't take alot of work to put in, what are you complaining about? |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
40
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:29:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:I'll entertain you, but I don't know what you want. Is it videogame examples or real world politics? Either way, I present a few examples (for the political ones, I refuse to express my opinion on it and I expect the same from everyone else): Exhibit A: The Patriot Act. Passed under Bush, expanded under Obama Exhibit B: European appeasement when Hit-lur (can't spell his name on this site ) came into power. Hit-lur kept expanding until France and Britain said he'd came too far. Exhibit C: Under Theodore Roosevelt, many Trusts (which he deemed as evil) were broken down. Under Taft, even more trusts were broken down (despite Teddy's dissatisfaction) Exhibit D: Lincoln elected--> Civil War --> Emancipation Proclamation --> War ends --> 13th Amendment Exhibit E: Battlefield 1942 has vehicles in multiplayer --> SOCOM 3 has them too now (Seth Luisi admitted to this) Exhibit F: MW2 introduces those "candy handouts", almost every FPS/TPS has done it since. Exhibit G: The praise for Bad Company 1/2 lead to the class design choose of BF3 (which in my opinion is just BC3) Exhibit H: CoD has perks! Now so does Halo Reach! Top of my head. Lots of nice examples, and historical too, but i'm gonna go out an a limb and say that you've got a wee bit more work to do before showing the relevance of pre-WW2 appeasement to CCP's game design choices ;) Let's try controlling some variables: Fix the game desiger. I'll choose CCP. Now let's look at their only other game, EVE. There are no WP in EVE, but CCP's design philosophy is fairly obvious: there are no perks, and every player error is punished. If it isn't punished, it means you got bulls*** lucky. Now i do have my concerns about CCP softening up EVE lately, i hope that doesn't happen because i'll quit the game. But for now, based on past experience with the developer, i'm not going to worry about hand-holding carebear creep in dust - although i do want to see the AA nerfed. I'm guessing it will be, hopefully in 1.6
My examples weren't suppose to be a direct coloration to CCP design chooses. It was to simply express small things can lead to a larger result. I would agrue there are perks in EVE and Dust in the form of modules, they just cost fake money to use, but I digress.
You said yourself that CCP has softened EVE lately. Don't you think they'll bring the same to Dust?
And forgive me, what's "AA", is it anti-air?
Komodo Jones wrote:Here's a question, who cares? it's extra points that weren't there before and probably didn't take alot of work to put in, what are you complaining about?
I care....duh.
And the amount of work put into it isn't the point, it's the part where I find it a candy-handout I don't like. |
Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Public Disorder.
61
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:32:00 -
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i sint that bad. in battlefield snipers get a added bonus to their headshots if its farther than 50 meters. so if u kill some in from 2000 meters away, u get a instant 2000 points. but then again, they got bullet drop. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
256
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:34:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:Marlin Kirby from KILL-EM-QUICK suggested it folks
" You going to give us extra points for killing someone after dying three times in a row?" directed at CCP <----------------------------------Point Your head* This bullcrap happens in CoD and rewarding people for sucking or doing something a little out of the ordinary. We should be getting points for the kill alone and not how we get it. General John Ripper wrote:I like this idea. Your just mad because maybe you don't know how to aim? Lol You can't be serious. If I wasted loads of ammo on a guy, that's my own fault. Saving ammo by getting a headshot is a reward in its self. And how could I possibly miss with the massive hit-boxes we have now? Crash Monster wrote: I'd rather we get extra points for terminating a clone on a kill streak... if they killed five in a row get extra points for putting them out of action.
That's exactly what I'm getting at. I don't want this kind of garbage.^ Vrain Matari wrote:Tbh, the +60 WP might be a small nod to CoD, but it's a harmless one, so far as i can tell. If politics ever taught me anything, it's that small changes leads to big ones. Yeah. In America that "small" problem is Obama... but for Dust... it may be a id dfference for players getting 70+ kills, but not for the noobs getting lower than 20 or 30 kills. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1739
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:35:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:[
You said yourself that CCP has softened EVE lately. Don't you think they'll bring the same to Dust?
And forgive me, what's "AA", is it anti-air?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-aircraft_warfare
"Nicknames for anti-aircraft guns include AA, AAA or triple-A, an abbreviation of anti-aircraft artillery, "ack-ack"" |
Boot Booter
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
99
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:46:00 -
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low genius wrote:a res is 60 points, a headshot makes sure that can't happen. seems like a fair trade.
HAHA BOOM! OWNED!
I like it... |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1489
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:48:00 -
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I don't know... seems pointless to whine about giving people WP for doing things they are supposed to do. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1133
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:54:00 -
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I personally like that you get 10 more WP then normal with a headshot kill, kinda rewards skill or whathaveyous...
And increasing WP increases skill gain... Which is shnazzy. |
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Rudy Vandersario
Famous Wolf
57
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:55:00 -
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Extra points for crotch shots? |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:10:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:[
You said yourself that CCP has softened EVE lately. Don't you think they'll bring the same to Dust?
And forgive me, what's "AA", is it anti-air?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-aircraft_warfare"Nicknames for anti-aircraft guns include AA, AAA or triple-A, an abbreviation of anti-aircraft artillery, "ack-ack""
Or he meant "aim-assist"
I which I agree. Remove or reduce aim-assist. I'd prefer removed. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:14:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I personally like that you get 10 more WP then normal with a headshot kill, kinda rewards skill or whathaveyous...
And increasing WP increases skill gain... Which is shnazzy.
Getting the kill is the reward.
Crash Monster wrote:I don't know... seems pointless to whine about giving people WP for doing things they are supposed to do.
Yeah, you're suppose to kill the enemy. You're not required to get a headshot. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6496
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:44:00 -
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We're gonna have to start calling you Tom because that QQ was so damn Petty |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:We're gonna have to start calling you Tom because that QQ was so damn Petty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uQ76qrlK78 |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
790
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:58:00 -
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While we are on that low genius, if headshots prevent revival, should explosives get "Explosive Kill +60" are should we give explosives a chance to terminate instead?
I as an md user, believe in the second option! |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2013.09.28 23:02:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:While we are on that low genius, if headshots prevent revival, should explosives get "Explosive Kill +60" are should we give explosives a chance to terminate instead?
I as an md user, believe in the second option!
Give me 10+ for bleeding someone out and I'll be fine. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1244
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Posted - 2013.09.28 23:05:00 -
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I personally like the 10 extra points for a headshot. It goes great with the deathbell.
When it first happened I was like, "wait a minute, I got the donut? Who got the donut?" |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
790
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Posted - 2013.09.28 23:06:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:While we are on that low genius, if headshots prevent revival, should explosives get "Explosive Kill +60" are should we give explosives a chance to terminate instead?
I as an md user, believe in the second option! Give me 10+ for bleeding someone out and I'll be fine.
No, Im all for the headshot bonus, as low suggested it makes sense! But all im saying is explosives GUARANTEE termination, which I don't think is fair, I was merely asking for his opinion.
You should not get a bonus for "bleed-out" |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3232
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Posted - 2013.09.28 23:23:00 -
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Almost all my kills with shotguns, and a lot of my kills with SMGs are headshot kills, because of the spread. Extra points along with this is a bad idea. |
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