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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
41
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:17:00 -
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im tired of EVERY damm match being 1 team proto stomping the other, i pull out a 450k tank? blown up in seconds. corps giving squads money to proto stomp, while NO ONE has enough money to buy it, its unfair, i quit this unbalanced POS |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
208
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:18:00 -
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Stuffz.. Can I haz? |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
349
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:20:00 -
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Can I has your isk?
-bazookah |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:24:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Can I has your isk?
-bazookah no one gets **** im not funding anyones stupid ****** ass forge sniper(not you) i may return in 1.6 or 1.8, MAYBE if stupid piece of **** proto gear get nerfed/removed from pub contracts(dropsuits only) |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9007
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:25:00 -
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Go Milita stomping. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
42
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:27:00 -
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I cant help but sympathise with op. Can't stand corps that proto stomp in pub matches. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3128
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:28:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:im tired of EVERY damm match being 1 team proto stomping the other, i pull out a 450k tank? blown up in seconds. corps giving squads money to proto stomp, while NO ONE has enough money to buy it, its unfair, i quit this unbalanced POS
Quite the contrary, because they increased the payout from PC matches, I can perma-run Proto suits constantly without needing a corp bailout.
But I do get a lot of tips for providing orbitals with Eve. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
43
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:im tired of EVERY damm match being 1 team proto stomping the other, i pull out a 450k tank? blown up in seconds. corps giving squads money to proto stomp, while NO ONE has enough money to buy it, its unfair, i quit this unbalanced POS Quite the contrary, because they increased the payout from PC matches, I can perma-run Proto suits constantly without needing a corp bailout. But I do get a lot of tips for providing orbitals with Eve. they need to cut the price of proto everything by 30%, enforcer tanks that cost 1.2 mil isk? ******* stupid, only proto stompers can afford. i got proto stomped 1 too many times, im still ******* pissed off and NOT returning before 1.6/1.7 unless i get 20,000 AUR so i can buy tanks and boosters |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
210
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:31:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED
I can't help but chuckle to myself. It's not really the Proto that is doing the stomping. If they were wearing Adv gear, and working together, you get the same result.
What the stomping comes from is the organized squad play. I'm getting the vibe that you aren't in a organized squad yourself... |
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
43
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:33:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED I can't help but chuckle to myself. It's not really the Proto that is doing the stomping. If they were wearing Adv gear, and working together, you get the same result. What the stomping comes from is the organized squad play. I'm getting the vibe that you aren't in a organized squad yourself... public contracts are for SMALL squads or lone merc, not for OP POS dubvile ar's and proto suits and mods everywhere.................... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9007
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:34:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED I can't help but chuckle to myself. It's not really the Proto that is doing the stomping. If they were wearing Adv gear, and working together, you get the same result. What the stomping comes from is the organized squad play. I'm getting the vibe that you aren't in a organized squad yourself...
Hell if the guys stomping you were wearing militia gear I suspect similar if not the very same results. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
43
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED I can't help but chuckle to myself. It's not really the Proto that is doing the stomping. If they were wearing Adv gear, and working together, you get the same result. What the stomping comes from is the organized squad play. I'm getting the vibe that you aren't in a organized squad yourself... Hell if the guys stomping you were wearing militia gear I suspect similar if not the very same results. i run adv suits, weapons, and proto mods if i can, if im getting proto stomped i switch to free medic......,16 out of 20 matches are proto stomping |
Death Dealer86
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:47:00 -
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Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
667
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:51:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:Stuffz.. Can I haz? GAAAAH DAMN IT EVERYTIME SOMEONE BEATS ME TOO IT!!!! |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:51:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! im using gunlogi with lvl 3 mods and std blaster/missile i REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon. and i have no proto weapons/suits, i HATE overpriced stuff that no one but corps can afford shield tank too so wtf is wrong with av |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:52:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! ps i only have 800k isk now, i used 2 tanks in 1 game |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
116
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:53:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! That's what I was thinking. The person in a pubstomping corp is complaining, what's happening with this game |
Roner General
Ancient Exiles
7
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:53:00 -
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450k tank lol wow big baller over here |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
501
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:54:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED
when you see someone using proto, just make sure you kill them a lot by any means necessary. get paid. |
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:57:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! im using gunlogi with lvl 3 mods and std blaster/missile i REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon. and i have no proto weapons/suits, i HATE overpriced stuff that no one but corps can afford shield tank too so wtf is wrong with av |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:00:00 -
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low genius wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED when you see someone using proto, just make sure you kill them a lot by any means necessary. get paid. i CANT they have dubvile AR and over 800 hp, my teamates are dying everywhere, no matter how many proto i kill i only get 200k so i have never gotton 5 mil............ |
Death Dealer86
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:03:00 -
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Quit using tanks, invest your sp in damage mods and proficiency for your weapon. Stick with your squad and watch your isk grow. |
BRIANNA BEACH
Pradox One
47
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:04:00 -
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Your first problem? 450k isk isnt a good tank |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:09:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:Quit using tanks, invest your sp in damage mods and proficiency for your weapon. Stick with your squad and watch your isk grow. i havd 7 mil sp 1.5 mil in tanks i will not use sp for prof. and how would my isk grow? ps my bonus sp is exuasted |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:10:00 -
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BRIANNA BEACH wrote:Your first problem? 450k isk isnt a good tank i use gunlogi and REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:12:00 -
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BRIANNA BEACH wrote:Your first problem? 450k isk isnt a good tank pss im not paying over 500k for ONE tank, i only make 205k a match SOMETIMES more |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
116
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:13:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:BRIANNA BEACH wrote:Your first problem? 450k isk isnt a good tank i use gunlogi and REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon And everyone says,"Sounds like a personal problem!" |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention
230
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:16:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED thats not a valid excuse, if my std squad can stomp proto squads anyone else can |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:17:00 -
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Hellkeizer wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:BRIANNA BEACH wrote:Your first problem? 450k isk isnt a good tank i use gunlogi and REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon And everyone says,"Sounds like a personal problem!" its for 1.6 and i only do good when not being proto stomped. i cant spec into armor with 5-6k sp a match, besides my sp is exuasted and im not playing til 1.6 or 1.7 OR get 20,000 AUR |
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:18:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED thats not a valid excuse, if my std squad can stomp proto squads anyone else can not when my teamates suck and i play solo in PUBLIC SMALL SQUAD OR NOME contracts |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention
231
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:20:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! im using gunlogi with lvl 3 mods and std blaster/missile i REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon. and i have no proto weapons/suits, i HATE overpriced stuff that no one but corps can afford shield tank too so wtf is wrong with av i cant ******* stand people like you saying OMG THAT CORP PAYS FOR EVERYTHING WAH WAH WAH - the only time my corps have given me money is when i lose my tanks in pc, other than that im not dumb enough to lose ridiculous amounts of money in pub matches, seeing people lose 5-10 proto suits in an ambush when im losing 1-2 std suits and still coming first |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9008
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:22:00 -
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Seriously dude, fight the proto, I have 110 mil as of this morning and that was after losing 2 dropships, and 2 HAVs and couple dozen suits. Which means over the course of 6 fights I managed to get 2 million isk profit. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:23:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! im using gunlogi with lvl 3 mods and std blaster/missile i REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon. and i have no proto weapons/suits, i HATE overpriced stuff that no one but corps can afford shield tank too so wtf is wrong with av i cant ******* stand people like you saying OMG THAT CORP PAYS FOR EVERYTHING WAH WAH WAH - the only time my corps have given me money is when i lose my tanks in pc, other than that im not dumb enough to lose ridiculous amounts of money in pub matches, seeing people lose 5-10 proto suits in an ambush when im losing 1-2 std suits and still coming first play domination/skir |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Seriously dude, fight the proto, I have 110 mil as of this morning and that was after losing 2 dropships, and 2 HAVs and couple dozen suits. Which means over the course of 6 fights I managed to get 2 million isk profit. 400k isk per game? i def need some money, and i cant use proto as sp gain is 5k+i exuasted bonus sp |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9008
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:28:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Seriously dude, fight the proto, I have 110 mil as of this morning and that was after losing 2 dropships, and 2 HAVs and couple dozen suits. Which means over the course of 6 fights I managed to get 2 million isk profit. 400k isk per game? i def need some money, and i cant use proto as sp gain is 5k+i exuasted bonus sp
I have absolutely 0 prototype equipment, and only 1 advanced suit and no advanced equipment. Also my tank is about 450k, its not very good but it does not die instantly either most of the time (unless a grimlock shows up) |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
117
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:30:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Seriously dude, fight the proto, I have 110 mil as of this morning and that was after losing 2 dropships, and 2 HAVs and couple dozen suits. Which means over the course of 6 fights I managed to get 2 million isk profit. 400k isk per game? i def need some money, and i cant use proto as sp gain is 5k+i exuasted bonus sp And a more friendly corp! How are they not helping you with funds Unless they think you're not not worth their time |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Seriously dude, fight the proto, I have 110 mil as of this morning and that was after losing 2 dropships, and 2 HAVs and couple dozen suits. Which means over the course of 6 fights I managed to get 2 million isk profit. 400k isk per game? i def need some money, and i cant use proto as sp gain is 5k+i exuasted bonus sp I have absolutely 0 prototype equipment, and only 1 advanced suit and no advanced equipment. Also my tank is about 450k, its not very good but it does not die instantly either most of the time (unless a grimlock shows up) my tsnk does good if there isnt forge guns, adv+ swarms, or flux nades? but av ARMOR nade spam kinda hurts my 29.8% DR tank (shield) |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:32:00 -
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Hellkeizer wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Seriously dude, fight the proto, I have 110 mil as of this morning and that was after losing 2 dropships, and 2 HAVs and couple dozen suits. Which means over the course of 6 fights I managed to get 2 million isk profit. 400k isk per game? i def need some money, and i cant use proto as sp gain is 5k+i exuasted bonus sp And a more friendly corp! How are they not helping you with funds Unless they think you're not not worth their time i never get in pc and i only have 7.6 mil lifetime sp, so not much....
i di get 2 mil isk once, i was testing vehicles at the time, im guessing you know where the isk went.... |
Our Deepest Regret
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:33:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! im using gunlogi with lvl 3 mods and std blaster/missile i REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon. and i have no proto weapons/suits, i HATE overpriced stuff that no one but corps can afford shield tank too so wtf is wrong with av
Well, your refusal to pay for quality is what's setting you up for frustration. Tanks are an isk sink, plain and simple. 450k gets you what, 3,400 shields? weak explosive resistance? a stage 1 turret? It's nice of you to boost the self-esteem of AV players like that, but you should do something good for yourself once in a while, y'know? |
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:36:00 -
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Our Deepest Regret wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! im using gunlogi with lvl 3 mods and std blaster/missile i REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon. and i have no proto weapons/suits, i HATE overpriced stuff that no one but corps can afford shield tank too so wtf is wrong with av Well, your refusal to pay for quality is what's setting you up for frustration. Tanks are an isk sink, plain and simple. 450k gets you what, 3,400 shields? weak explosive resistance? a stage 1 turret? It's nice of you to boost the self-esteem of AV players like that, but you should do something good for yourself once in a while, y'know? 4,000 shields, 29.8% DR |
Death Dealer86
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
26
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:37:00 -
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I dont think your corp would appreciate you saying they suck. This is not the place to whine. I have more than 1.6 mil sp invested into my dropsuit. Quit using that ****** tank! Get a gun and you will make isk. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:37:00 -
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Our Deepest Regret wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Death Dealer86 wrote:Dude your in a solid corp with some good players. I've played with some of them so I know. As for that crappy 450k tank, quit bringing that POS out. I know people that refuse to bring out their million isk tanks because of the AV nowadays. Squad up with some corp mates or people from the alliance and do the stomping yourself! im using gunlogi with lvl 3 mods and std blaster/missile i REFUSE to pay over 100k for a weapon. and i have no proto weapons/suits, i HATE overpriced stuff that no one but corps can afford shield tank too so wtf is wrong with av Well, your refusal to pay for quality is what's setting you up for frustration. Tanks are an isk sink, plain and simple. 450k gets you what, 3,400 shields? weak explosive resistance? a stage 1 turret? It's nice of you to boost the self-esteem of AV players like tha std turret, i cant afford multiple tanks...and i need sp |
Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
76
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:37:00 -
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i would say HAV'S pg CPU is to low. but he said he won't pay over 450k so that excuse is dead. Madrugers without the moduels and equipment cost over 1m ISK. my advice. suck it up. And like everyone else low on ISK, Run a few ambushes with nothing but starter suits. That should get you 1m ISK after 5 fights if you get over 200k ISK a fight. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1127
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:38:00 -
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As a full-time tanker...
Don't throw good after bad, and start really doing your absolute best to never "brute force" your way into a map. In order to make any money with an HAV (At least in Skirmish, the only mode I play) you have to consider which parts of a map you never, ever go in.
Running a blaster fit as Caldari is a very bad idea... Especially with low SP, I only do it if I'm in a weird mood and don't care about wasting ~$520K and preferably have a tanking buddy also running blaster.
Missiles are your friend, so are rails.
In order to make money with Caldari HAVs, you absolutely have to spend money into them, money should never be an issue with HAVs as if you bring one out you need every last edge, as yeah a cheap tank is cheap, but you lose them far easier then the expensive ones.
I never "squad up" unless in my (very small and personal) Corp, most of my work is solo work, and while money is an eternal struggle, you really can make it out there in a "pub-stomping" environment, you just absolutely have to be smart about things, know when to run, know what areas are death traps, know where you have cover and from what angles, NEVER stay in one area for any measurable amount of time (Period.).
Just play a bit smarter, if you really put your mind to it then you can survive, especially since to make a good Caldari HAV fit you need a smidge less SP then the Gallente HAVs.
It's a cruel world, but if you use a Caldari HAV properly you should die usually from other HAVs not infantry... It also helps to stop thinking of the HAVs as a "tank" who can take anything, and more like a mobile weapons platform... |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:38:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:I dont think your corp would appreciate you saying they suck. This is not the place to whine. I have more than 1.6 mil sp invested into my dropsuit. Quit using that ****** tank! Get a gun and you will make isk. i use guns 93% of the time, nvr said my corp sucks |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
117
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:40:00 -
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Death Dealer86 wrote:I dont think your corp would appreciate you saying they suck. This is not the place to whine. I have more than 1.6 mil sp invested into my dropsuit. Quit using that ****** tank! Get a gun and you will make isk. If I was in a corp that didn't appreciate me, I would say the same but I would leave too... |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:40:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:i would say HAV'S pg CPU is to low. but he said he won't pay over 450k so that excuse is dead. Madrugers without the moduels and equipment cost over 1m ISK. my advice. suck it up. And like everyone else low on ISK, Run a few ambushes with nothing but starter suits. That should get you 1m ISK after 5 fights if you get over 200k ISK a fight. EDIT: How does iron wolf saber get 2 million ISK for six fights after losing dropships HAV's and dropsuits " Run a few ambushes with nothing but starter suits. That should get you 1m ISK after 5 fights if you get over 200k ISK a fight" i dont get **** (SP) from ambush |
Death Dealer86
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
26
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:42:00 -
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I can't beat a dead horse any longer... |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:44:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:As a full-time tanker...
Don't throw good after bad, and start really doing your absolute best to never "brute force" your way into a map. In order to make any money with an HAV (At least in Skirmish, the only mode I play) you have to consider which parts of a map you never, ever go in.
Running a blaster fit as Caldari is a very bad idea... Especially with low SP, I only do it if I'm in a weird mood and don't care about wasting ~$520K and preferably have a tanking buddy also running blaster.
Missiles are your friend, so are rails.
In order to make money with Caldari HAVs, you absolutely have to spend money into them, money should never be an issue with HAVs as if you bring one out you need every last edge, as yeah a chea i know how to play tanks(my lvl armor did better than my shield) i cant afford alot. my main problem is tower forging, or swarms, or av nade spam as shield is slow, ps you wanna tank together?(help+some isk) |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:45:00 -
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I also want to stress that any tank Caldari tank that won't die in an eyeblink will cost 500K+ minimum, anything cheaper then that will die at the drop of a hat unless you really just redline-snipe or play extremely conservative.
You can't play a cheap tanker, you just can't.
Cheap fits are garbage, period, if you don't pay for the good stuff then you're going to lose your fits more often then not and in the long run you will hemorrhage money.
HAVs require a drastically different mindset then infantrymen, don't cut corners when it comes to ISK. A cheap Caldari fit is 500K+ A moderate one is 700K+ An expensive Caldari fit is 1 million+
Less then 500K fits are called target practice, and free points for anyone who notices, only good for casual joyrides with friends. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:48:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I also want to stress that any tank Caldari tank that won't die in an eyeblink will cost 500K+ minimum, anything cheaper then that will die at the drop of a hat unless you really just redline-snipe or play extremely conservative.
You can't play a cheap tanker, you just can't.
Cheap fits are garbage, period, if you don't pay for the good stuff then you're going to lose your fits more often then not and in the long run you will hemorrhage money.
HAVs require a drastically different mindset then infantrymen, don't cut corners when it comes to ISK. A cheap Caldari fit is 500K+ A moderate one is 700K+ An expensive Caldari fit is 1 million+
Less then 500K fits are called target practice, and free points for anyone who notices, only good for casual joyrides with friends. i need sp first and my railguns cant hit crap |
Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:51:00 -
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How do you think fire feels. it's constantly being blown by wind or water. just like you and forge snipers and swarm launchers. suck it up. if you can't afford good gear. run 6 ambushes with starter dropsuits. you will get over 1m isk. (if you get 200k a match) i remember you saying your armor is better than your shields. if so then put some thick armor plates on your HAV. yes there will always be forge snipers and swarm launchers and AV grenades. a tough adversary can expect tough competition. EDIT: need sp save it. i have been saving sp for 2 weeks to level up weapons to proto level Adapt and survive. survival of the fittest. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:53:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:How do you think fire feels. it's constantly being blown by wind or water. just like you and forge snipers and swarm launchers. suck it up. if you can't afford good gear. run 6 ambushes with starter dropsuits. you will get over 1m isk. (if you get 200k a match) i remember you saying your armor is better than your shields. if so then put some thick armor plates on your HAV. yes there will always be forge snipers and swarm launchers and AV grenades. a tough adversary can expect tough competition. EDIT: need sp save it. i have been saving sp for 2 weeks to level up weapons to proto level my armor TANK did better i will only play if i get a tanker but even then, shield boosters are crap, plus it's level 1 sadly bonus sp exuasted
ps i only have 700k isk due to costly tank |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.09.28 02:57:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: i know how to play tanks(my lvl armor did better than my shield) i cant afford alot. my main problem is tower forging, or swarms, or av nade spam as shield is slow, ps you wanna tank together?(help+some isk)
Tower forging you should either hang back and redline snipe him with cover to cool down, or recall, grab a sniper rifle (I have a few different proto sniper fits just for that purpose), unfortunately there is only so much you can do in this case.
Swarms are really easy to snipe away, and if they are on ground, in the HAV you can usually out-pace them by keeping yourself mobile and fade to a different part of the battlefield if you see them, it can be pretty effective to keep doing this as you end up fighting mainly
AV nade spam is pretty devastating if you run blasters (Or if you camp and snipe, then everyone and their mother sneaks up on you) as you have to get too close to the buggers, hence why I use rails or Accelerated Missiles. I've learned that when fighting infantry, I never enter a city unless I am in a voiced squad with people I know, and even then I consider it a bad idea. Distance is key, and if the infantry are in a place where you have to get closer then 70 meters then it is pretty much a bad idea. Potshots are free, better then closing in, scoring a few more kills then going nuclear due to a bunch of AV/Flux nade spam.
Also, honestly, some tanks are near impossible to tank without a voice squad calling out targets, so don't be afraid to just play like a "coward" for those maps, only rolling out of your base to help a fight where you have a lot of infantrymen, then roll back and just hide at base for a few minutes waiting for the enemy AV to get board and swap fits.
I'd love to tank with you sometime, PM me in-game and I'll try and meet up the next time we are on at the same time.
I understand your frustration, I've been there heh.
PS: Grab some droplinks, my usual tank pilot fit is a crappy two module log suit with a repper (for emergencies when my tank is on fire even after I roll to cover) and droplinks. Dropping out of your tank in very safe spots and dropping the basic Level 3 Droplink in two places on the map will net you a lot of extra points. Place them in parts of the map just outside of your radar of enemy CRUs/Objectives/whatever, by not getting too greedy and placing them just out of sight a short hike away from key locations, your team will usually use them as "shortcuts."
As a last "PS," if you think you might be outclassed in a potential shootingmatch where you know a Forgegunner/Swarm Squad/Enemy Rail tank is camping... Just accept it and don't confront them, not worth the risk. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:03:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: i know how to play tanks(my lvl armor did better than my shield) i cant afford alot. my main problem is tower forging, or swarms, or av nade spam as shield is slow, ps you wanna tank together?(help+some isk)
Tower forging you should either hang back and redline snipe him with cover to cool down, or recall, grab a sniper rifle (I have a few different proto sniper fits just for that purpose), unfortunately there is only so much you can do in this case, and honestly there is not much you can do. This is why shooting dropships is your number one priority to keep tower camping from happening, as it can ruin a game. Swarms are really easy to snipe away, and if they are on ground, in the HAV you can usually out-pace them by keeping yourself mobile and fade to a different part of the battlefield if you see them, it can be pretty effective to keep doing this as you end up fighting mainly infantry and leaving t mssg me first, i have no pc, |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:07:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:mssg me first, i have no pc,
Will do the next time I'm on, probably tomorrow night. I'd love to see you become a successful full-time tanker (Or at least half-time), admittedly not an easy goal, and tank squading helps survivability by 600% no joke. I have a corp-mate who also tanks full time, Phixate, and it would be pretty cool to run a three-man tank lance. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:09:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: i know how to play tanks(my lvl armor did better than my shield) i cant afford alot. my main problem is tower forging, or swarms, or av nade spam as shield is slow, ps you wanna tank together?(help+some isk)
Tower forging you should either hang back and redline snipe him with cover to cool down, or recall, grab a sniper rifle (I have a few different proto sniper fits just for that purpose), unfortunately there is only so much you can do in this case, and honestly there is not much you can do. This is why shooting dropships is your number one priority to keep tower camping from happening, as it can ruin a game. Swarms are really easy to snipe away, and if they are on ground, in the HAV you can usually out-pace them by keeping yourself mobile and fade to a different part of the battlefield if you see them, it can be pretty effective to keep doing this a like them jumping my turret, roadkill 2 ppl somehow 1 match i had 3 ar users try to shot me |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:10:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:mssg me first, i have no pc, Will do the next time I'm on, probably tomorrow night. I'd love to see you become a successful full-time tanker (Or at least half-time), admittedly not an easy goal, and tank squading helps survivability by 600% no joke. I have a corp-mate who also tanks full time, Phixate, and it would be pretty cool to run a three-man tank lance. i would need SLIGHT funds, missile turret's what i use ps i use shield tanks,.... |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:18:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping. i cant do ******* **** most of the time because of stupid MOTHER ******* PROTO STOMPING YES I JUST GOT PROTO STOMPED I can't help but chuckle to myself. It's not really the Proto that is doing the stomping. If they were wearing Adv gear, and working together, you get the same result. What the stomping comes from is the organized squad play. I'm getting the vibe that you aren't in a organized squad yourself...
Bull ans ****. It's the gear. It takes more rounds to take a proto geared player down and they also put out more damage. Hence, they easily overcome lesser geared players despite organization. One prot against every twonon-proto wins. This is easily observable in matches. |
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crispipin
The Vanguardians
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:27:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:im tired of EVERY damm match being 1 team proto stomping the other, i pull out a 450k tank? blown up in seconds. corps giving squads money to proto stomp, while NO ONE has enough money to buy it, its unfair, i quit this unbalanced POS Should we all cry for you? ;) |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.28 03:28:00 -
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I see this fellow is engaging in possibly the most dangerous type of stomp.
The forumstomp.
However, while CCP has said, (Even if I think it is idiotic to do so) they won't "segregate" the community by gear.
Stupid, yes, but of course it happens.
Try some STD Gal Med Frame with 2 plate, a STD repper and a basic light dmg mod.
Pair that fit with an AR and a SMG and your rocking.
Sad, I can beat my proto Cal Fit with my STD Gal fit HP wise.
But yeah, when a pub stomp happens, the smartest thing to do is to whip out your brick tanked Gal or Amarr med frame.
Or a kamikaze fit ranged riflemen.
For tanks... Just keep your ass moving. Don't try and pull a badass area pacification. Your paper right now, and everyone has lvl 5 prof proto scissors. Keep ducking out into friendly territory and hit the reps the moment you take damage.
All I got for you.
The the forumstomp commence....... |
Blaze Ashra
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.28 04:05:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:mssg me first, i have no pc, Will do the next time I'm on, probably tomorrow night. I'd love to see you become a successful full-time tanker (Or at least half-time), admittedly not an easy goal, and tank squading helps survivability by 600% no joke. I have a corp-mate who also tanks full time, Phixate, and it would be pretty cool to run a three-man tank lance. i would need SLIGHT funds, missile turret's what i use ps i use shield tanks,....
Can I suggest you go to the tankers chatroom 'honey badger' and ask for a good fit. You could also squad up and shadow them and other tankers you come across in game. Assuming you're using a gunnlogi I would recommend 2 15% resist plates, Nitro, heavy shield extenders, 30% hardener and 2 power diagnostic systems for the regen.
When they're talking about going infantry and getting a profit just clear 500 war points with 5 or less deaths in skirmish or something and you'll have a decent payout. Use starter fits and everything is profit anyways.
I always smile when tankers pull the so expensive card. Main cost is proto turret and a few people use enforcers because they suck. My assault dropship hull alone cost just under 500K and a single proto small turret brings it to over 720k.
You just need to get a fit that works for you, keep mobile and invest isk/sp into your tank. Get rid of all installations and possible threats then move on to the next target. Avoid clearings and burst from cover to cover with your nitro.
Try not to take it to hard when/if you lose it. |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.28 04:30:00 -
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Bye. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
997
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Posted - 2013.09.28 04:33:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:im tired of EVERY damm match being 1 team proto stomping the other, i pull out a 450k tank? blown up in seconds. corps giving squads money to proto stomp, while NO ONE has enough money to buy it, its unfair, i quit this unbalanced POS Quite the contrary, because they increased the payout from PC matches, I can perma-run Proto suits constantly without needing a corp bailout. But I do get a lot of tips for providing orbitals with Eve.
When im running low on isk I just pull from our tax doll...... I play militia!!! |
pamuku420tyme
RedBerry Genocide
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Posted - 2013.09.28 04:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go Milita stomping.
ur r3tarded |
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