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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 449	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:42:00 - [1] - Quote DISCUSS? LIKE A RAIL TANK ??
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8827	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:43:00 - [2] - Quote Zing zing zing zing.
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards 212	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:45:00 - [3] - Quote slightly better then the TAC
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3435	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:46:00 - [4] - Quote Around 90 damage per shot at 1200 RPM with an optimal range of 300m. It's Caldari, so naturally it'll be excellently balanced.
Cosgar ParagonX 5423	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:46:00 - [5] - Quote Long range, high single shot damage, low semi-auto RoF. Expect many tears.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2210	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:47:00 - [6] - Quote Full automatic, roughly half the rate of fire as your typical AR, 1.5x zoom scope, . . .
Synbot Expert Intervention Caldari State 156	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:47:00 - [7] - Quote What would be the difference between a rail rifle and a forge gun? Or sniper? Or scrambler rifle?
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1684	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:48:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Zing zing zing zing. I'm thinking more like zhhhheeeeeAP! (225 HP) zhhhheeeeeAP (225 HP) zhhhheeeeeAP (225 HP) [sizzle-overheat] Think forge gun rifle.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2211	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:49:00 - [9] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Long range, high single shot damage, low semi-auto RoF. Expect many tears. Since CCP said it will be the best breach version, I think it's safe to say the base rail rifle model will be full auto. That's not to say that there won't be a tactical rail rifle variant.
Sarducar Kahn xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers 108	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:51:00 - [10] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Cosgar wrote: Long range, high single shot damage, low semi-auto RoF. Expect many tears. Since CCP said it will be the best breach version, I think it's safe to say the base rail rifle model will be full auto. That's not to say that there won't be a tactical rail rifle variant. Tac rail rifle will have an amazing single shorting power. Like breach scrambler

Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1684	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:51:00 - [11] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Cosgar wrote: Long range, high single shot damage, low semi-auto RoF. Expect many tears. Since CCP said it will be the best breach version, I think it's safe to say the base rail rifle model will be full auto. That's not to say that there won't be a tactical rail rifle variant. I would bet that at STD level you will get a longer range breach rifle with a scope and something like the TAC-AR, but better than the TAC-AR (same range, bigger clip), but can overheat or something. While the TAC-AR gets nerfed.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2211	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:54:00 - [12] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Zing zing zing zing. I'm thinking more like zhhhheeeeeAP! (225 HP) zhhhheeeeeAP (225 HP) zhhhheeeeeAP (225 HP) [sizzle-overheat] Think forge gun rifle. Hmm, I could see that actually. Perhaps it will have a small required charge up time, where the charge can't be held and fires immediately upon charge completion. So you just hold down the trigger and it will continually loop through this process until overheats. That does sound like a "breach" weapon to me in Dust terminology. Though I'd probably expect it to fire more than 3 shots before overheat and not do quite that much damage per shot.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1954	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:58:00 - [13] - Quote THE RAIL RIFLE WILL SHOOT CAPS LOCKS AT ITS TARGETS
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 290	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:58:00 - [14] - Quote using the tac as a tempte -8# damage -large hipfire cross hairs -450RPM (single shot) -optimal range range of 100m-120m -clip size of 20 -increased zoom scope (between tac ar and sniper)
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 112	Posted - 2013.09.24 19:58:00 - [15] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Zing zing zing zing. I'm thinking more like zhhhheeeeeAP! (225 HP) zhhhheeeeeAP (225 HP) zhhhheeeeeAP (225 HP) [sizzle-overheat] Think forge gun rifle. Hmm, I could see that actually. Perhaps it will have a small required charge up time, where the charge can't be held and fires immediately upon charge completion. So you just hold down the trigger and it will continually loop through this process until overheats. That does sound like a "breach" weapon to me in Dust terminology. Though I'd probably expect it to fire more than 3 shots before overheat and not do quite that much damage per shot. Yeah, something like 0.2-second charges, with maybe 90 damage/shot. Like a small rail turret but not awful. I imagine it will have recoil like the Tac but maybe 1.5x more, to balance it over range. I'm hoping for an effective range of maybe 120M with an optimal out to 70-80?
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1955	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:04:00 - [16] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: like the a single shot bolt shooter If an assault rifle has that much zoom you might as well use a tactical sniper rifle.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1684	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:12:00 - [17] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Zing zing zing zing. I'm thinking more like zhhhheeeeeAP! (225 HP) zhhhheeeeeAP (225 HP) zhhhheeeeeAP (225 HP) [sizzle-overheat] Think forge gun rifle. Hmm, I could see that actually. Perhaps it will have a small required charge up time, where the charge can't be held and fires immediately upon charge completion. So you just hold down the trigger and it will continually loop through this process until overheats. That does sound like a "breach" weapon to me in Dust terminology. Though I'd probably expect it to fire more than 3 shots before overheat and not do quite that much damage per shot. Yeah, something like 0.2-second charges, with maybe 90 damage/shot. Like a small rail turret but not awful. I imagine it will have recoil like the Tac but maybe 1.5x more, to balance it over range. I'm hoping for an effective range of maybe 120M with an optimal out to 70-80? I like how there is a pretty significant difference between the feel of shooting a STD AR vs. a STD ScR. I would really like there to be a similar amount of difference with a rail and combat rifle. If it wasn't an insta fire automatic weapon, but the speed of a semi-auto 100-200 RPM, and the possibility of over heating, and the need to hold the trigger for at least a split second before firing actually starts would be a nice and different feeling. An alternative to overheating with damage, would be overheating drastically reducing firing rate. I would accept this as a very acceptable balance to a long range weapon. Basically start out with 200 RPM, then every round decreases RPM by 5%. So, 13-14 rounds in your DPS is halved because your RoF is halved. So it would feel like a front-loaded damage weapon that would take careful bursting to get max DPS. It seems like the story with most of the weapons is that there is the 'dumb' way to use most of them to get decent effective application, then a more technical way to use them that really unlocks their potential. I'm thinking combat rifle would be something kind of like an HMG, but longer range, high RoF, with its main mechanic being a large weapon clip, and crappy dispersion becoming much more accurate as you hold the trigger. Bigger weapon spread could actually not be so much of a penalty up close, and the higher precision rate would be better than the AR outside of AR optimals after about 1 second of continuous fire. The combat rifle could kind of have a feel of a combination of a shorter range laser rifle and HMG.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 872	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:20:00 - [18] - Quote All of you are wrong. It's going to be a Breach Plasma Rifle, only more range, and the same/higher damage, with the same/lower ROF.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 150	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:33:00 - [19] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: All of you are wrong. It's going to be a Breach Plasma Rifle, only more range, and the same/higher damage, with the same/lower ROF. A simple guide to the railrifle: breach ar rof &damage + tac ar scope and range + regular ar accuracy = head shot factory.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1585	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:34:00 - [20] - Quote A long range breach AR with high damage & high recoil +scope.

Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:50:00 - [21] - Quote Essentially a short range (relatively speaking) sniper rifle crossed with a forge gun with a full AR type clip but low RoF. Bam! One powerful shot but not as powerful as a sniper or FG. Also, spool time. Not charge up but spool up like the rail turret.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 914	Posted - 2013.09.24 20:51:00 - [22] - Quote by pressing R1...
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 363	Posted - 2013.09.24 21:27:00 - [23] - Quote If you are lucky it will be powered by capital letters
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 476	Posted - 2013.09.24 21:30:00 - [24] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: DISCUSS? LIKE A RAIL TANK ?? i expect it will be a slightly lower damage, slightly higher range ar. and i'm hoping that they'll push my laser rifle range out to compensate for it. i would expect it to hit harder on armour than shields for some reason.
J3f3r20n Gh057 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 119	Posted - 2013.09.24 21:34:00 - [25] - Quote Forge Gun jr.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1237	Posted - 2013.09.24 21:51:00 - [26] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: DISCUSS? LIKE A RAIL TANK ?? Considering The basic Assault rifle types are ''BASED'' on all racial main weapons: GAllante: AR TActical AR: AMARR (imitation on Scramblr Rifle) Burst: Caldari Breach: Minmatar Im guessing the Rail Rifle will Be a Rail variant of the BURST AR.MAkes sense,sounds Caldari.... IMO that is.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2213	Posted - 2013.09.24 21:57:00 - [27] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: All of you are wrong. It's going to be a Breach Plasma Rifle, only more range, and the same/higher damage, with the same/lower ROF. Just like the scrambler rifle is exactly the same as the tactical AR? Honestly I believe CCP is going to do something to make the rail rifle feel unique, so something like a full auto rifle but with a very fast charge up time required before each shot (thus artificially reducing the rate of fire) along with more range and damage. Simple enough and unique enough while still filling the archetype of a breach rifle.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2213	Posted - 2013.09.24 21:58:00 - [28] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: DISCUSS? LIKE A RAIL TANK ?? Considering The basic Assault rifle types are ''BASED'' on all racial main weapons: GAllante: AR TActical AR: AMARR (imitation on Scramblr Rifle) Burst: Caldari Breach: Minmatar Im guessing the Rail Rifle will Be a Rail variant of the BURST AR.MAkes sense,sounds Caldari.... IMO that is. Caldari is breach, Minmatar is burst.


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