Gallente are close ranged power houses who love them some plasma. So a plasma HMG would have even shorter range than it does now and do more damage. So it would be the best counter to the breech AR. lol#20mHMG

Gallente are close ranged power houses who love them some plasma. So a plasma HMG would have even shorter range than it does now and do more damage. So it would be the best counter to the breech AR. lol#20mHMG

I really hope that the current minmatar hmg is a placeholder and that it will be overhauled. Also, still don't understand why the Gallente plasma rifle (all cqc, no regrets) has more range than the minmatar projectile hmg (mid range massacres)

And I want scouts to be better

No, that wouldn't make any sense to have 2 weapons that covers the same role, only one is weaker (the Gallente one). RAther, the Gallente Heavy AI weapon could be something on the lines of a M2 HMG, but carried. pretty high damage, medium ROF, fast overheat, high recoil. low to medium range.

-All tank blaster variants fulfill the same roll and they are all weaker than the scattered.
-Breach shotgun and normal shotgun fulfill the same role and the breach is weaker.
-Full auto AR fulfills the CQC roll better than the breech and long range better than the tact and even mid range better than the burst.
-Normal scrambler pistol and burst pistol fulfills the same roll but normal scrambler is better
-Assault SMG and breech SMG fulfill the same roll but the Assault is better.

See a trend here or should i go on? The gallante HMG is going to suck balls when we get it in patch 2015. ops that an undefined date

There is a trend, but that's within a single gun. The Gallente Rifle is the Assault, so the Assault is the best of the Gallente variants, etc. A Gallente heavy weapon would be a completely different weapon from the Minmatar HMG, like the Scrambler Rifle is a different weapon from the Assault Rifle.

I would not be surprised seeing 1,500 Armor waddling around the battlefield.

-All tank blaster variants fulfill the same roll and they are all weaker than the scattered.
-Breach shotgun and normal shotgun fulfill the same role and the breach is weaker.
-Full auto AR fulfills the CQC roll better than the breech and long range better than the tact and even mid range better than the burst.
-Normal scrambler pistol and burst pistol fulfills the same roll but normal scrambler is better
-Assault SMG and breech SMG fulfill the same roll but the Assault is better.

See a trend here or should i go on? The gallante HMG is going to suck balls when we get it in patch 2015. ops that an undefined date

Yea, I know all that. They all need either removing, or fixing. Also, Stablized blaster needs buffing on the requirements to make it better, and the scattered needs a lower damage, and higher ROF. Then the blasters will be fine.

breach AR.

lol since when did AR users start using that?

all i see these days are either Exile, Gek, Duovolle variants.

Wouldn't it just be a handheld scattered blaster turret?

My understanding was that the gallante heavy weapon would be a big **** off shotgun.
An automatic shotgun if you will

like this. http://youtu.be/gQWq1Z-J-EE

I really hope that the current minmatar hmg is a placeholder and that it will be overhauled. Also, still don't understand why the Gallente plasma rifle (all cqc, no regrets) has more range than the minmatar projectile hmg (mid range massacres)

The range on the Assault Rifle (Plasma Rifle) will be shortened when the Combat Rifle is introduced. The HRMGÇÖs range is appropriate. It, like the SMG, is meant to be a close to near mid range weapon.

Lol an AA-12 x) That would be awsome, id use it on my heavy. As long as it is as rapeful as an AA-12. theres a reason the geneva convention has rules on it

Provided the range is short, I would expect anyone caught on the buisness end of the barrel they dead.
But short range allows for a potential counter.

A true badass niche weapon!

thats what im sayin. I would love that and all its just not competitively efficent. That means it sucks

You, have any of you seen the Heavies with Shotguns? It's laughable, I swear they play Yakkity Sax on their walk cycle. Useless no matter how many times I see it on the startup screen.

You, have any of you seen the Heavies with Shotguns? It's laughable, I swear they play Yakkity Sax on their walk cycle. Useless no matter how many times I see it on the startup screen.

You, have any of you seen the Heavies with Shotguns? It's laughable, I swear they play Yakkity Sax on their walk cycle. Useless no matter how many times I see it on the startup screen.

There will not be 4 racial variants of the HMG. At least not in the foreseeable future. There will be four Racial Heavy weapons. The Minmatar HRM and the Caldari Forge Gun are not similar. The Amarr will most likely have a large laser. For Gallente I would expect something similar to the Shotgun or Plasma Cannon, only on a larger scale. Maybe a Plasma Cannon with a 5 shot clip, possibly with shorter range.

The only weapon type that is guaranteed to have all 4 racial variants is the standard Infantry Rifle: Gallente Assault Riffle (Plasma Rifle), Minmatar Combat Rifle, Amarr Scrambler Rifle, and Caldari Rail Rifle. Each of these will have variants that seek to imitate the basic attributes of the other three.

People get confused on Pistols as well, since the Minmatar have the SMG and the Caldari will have the Magsec SMG (rail SMG) they think all four races will have SMGGÇÖs, but actually the other racial equivalents are the Scrambler Pistol and the Ion Pistol.

Basically the basics that all four races will have are: Heavy Weapon, Infantry Rifle, and Sidearm. Beyond that, all others are specialty weapons and are not guaranteed to have racial variants. They may add racial variants of specialty weapons, such as the Precision Rifle which looks to be a Minmatar variant of the Caldari Sniper Rifle, but not having it does not create a hole in the lineup.

and the compressed needs to do the most damage on its level for standard and adv levels. The only one that does more damage for its level is the proto. So all the blasters excpet the normal ones. And the other HMGs will need re-balancing too

There will not be 4 racial variants of the HMG. At least not in the foreseeable future. There will be four Racial Heavy weapons. The Minmatar HRM and the Caldari Forge Gun are not similar. The Amarr will most likely have a large laser. For Gallente I would expect something similar to the Shotgun or Plasma Cannon, only on a larger scale. Maybe a Plasma Cannon with a 5 shot clip, possibly with shorter range.

The only weapon type that is guaranteed to have all 4 racial variants is the standard Infantry Rifle: Gallente Assault Riffle (Plasma Rifle), Minmatar Combat Rifle, Amarr Scrambler Rifle, and Caldari Rail Rifle. Each of these will have variants that seek to imitate the basic attributes of the other three.

People get confused on Pistols as well, since the Minmatar have the SMG and the Caldari will have the Magsec SMG (rail SMG) they think all four races will have SMGGÇÖs, but actually the other racial equivalents are the Scrambler Pistol and the Ion Pistol.

Basically the basics that all four races will have are: Heavy Weapon, Infantry Rifle, and Sidearm. Beyond that, all others are specialty weapons and are not guaranteed to have racial variants. They may add racial variants of specialty weapons, such as the Precision Rifle which looks to be a Minmatar variant of the Caldari Sniper Rifle, but not having it does not create a hole in the lineup.

Amarr's only known Heavy Weapon has nothing to do with Lasers, Caldari's other Heavy weapon is a LMG built for range, unknown for Gallente's Heavy weapons, and Winmatar's other heavy weapon would probably be some kind of mortar or something..

You mean HMG? cuz both of those MGs fit the description. I doubt theyre going to reduce anything on a weapon because a new one was introduced, personally

Amarr's only known Heavy Weapon has nothing to do with Lasers, Caldari's other Heavy weapon is a LMG built for range, unknown for Gallente's Heavy weapons, and Winmatar's other heavy weapon would probably be some kind of mortar or something.

Also, The Bolt Pistol is Caldari as well, so it would only be fair for all races to get some kind of SMG. So try that logic again.

Fox is right. I don't think they'll shorten the PR range, just give the combat rifle more range. As is the PR can hit far but it's well out the guns optimal range.

The qq when combat rifles well be doubled.

It's sad that I won't be playing it because ps4 will be here by the time the CR comes out.

It occurs to me that they might just make the Assault RifleGÇÖs optimal range really short, and keep its effective range medium-long. Then give the Combat Rifle a longer optimal range, but with a similar effective range. If the Assault Rifle has a higher base damage, but the Combat Rifle applies its max damage over a longer distance, then this might balance fairly well.

The range on the Assault Rifle (Plasma Rifle) will be shortened when the Combat Rifle is introduced. The HMGGÇÖs range is appropriate. It, like the SMG, is meant to be a close to near mid range weapon.