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Exmaple Core
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:38:00 -
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Gallente are close ranged power houses who love them some plasma. So a plasma HMG would have even shorter range than it does now and do more damage. So it would be the best counter to the breech AR. lol#20mHMG |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 02:48:00 -
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Alpha 443-6732 wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Gallente are close ranged power houses who love them some plasma. So a plasma HMG would have even shorter range than it does now and do more damage. So it would be the best counter to the breech AR. lol#20mHMG I really hope that the current minmatar hmg is a placeholder and that it will be overhauled. Also, still don't understand why the Gallente plasma rifle (all cqc, no regrets) has more range than the minmatar projectile hmg (mid range massacres)
its already given to us to use and they have nerfed/buffed its ranged throughout this build. Its current range is intended so all its variants are pretty screwed |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 03:05:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:No, that wouldn't make any sense to have 2 weapons that covers the same role, only one is weaker (the Gallente one). RAther, the Gallente Heavy AI weapon could be something on the lines of a M2 HMG, but carried. pretty high damage, medium ROF, fast overheat, high recoil. low to medium range.
-All tank blaster variants fulfill the same roll and they are all weaker than the scattered.
-Breach shotgun and normal shotgun fulfill the same role and the breach is weaker.
-Full auto AR fulfills the CQC roll better than the breech and long range better than the tact and even mid range better than the burst.
-Normal scrambler pistol and burst pistol fulfills the same roll but normal scrambler is better
-Assault SMG and breech SMG fulfill the same roll but the Assault is better.
See a trend here or should i go on? The gallante HMG is going to suck balls when we get it in patch 2015. ops that an undefined date |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 04:06:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:No, that wouldn't make any sense to have 2 weapons that covers the same role, only one is weaker (the Gallente one). RAther, the Gallente Heavy AI weapon could be something on the lines of a M2 HMG, but carried. pretty high damage, medium ROF, fast overheat, high recoil. low to medium range. -All tank blaster variants fulfill the same roll and they are all weaker than the scattered. -Breach shotgun and normal shotgun fulfill the same role and the breach is weaker. -Full auto AR fulfills the CQC roll better than the breech and long range better than the tact and even mid range better than the burst. -Normal scrambler pistol and burst pistol fulfills the same roll but normal scrambler is better -Assault SMG and breech SMG fulfill the same roll but the Assault is better. See a trend here or should i go on? The gallante HMG is going to suck balls when we get it in patch 2015. ops that an undefined date There is a trend, but that's within a single gun. The Gallente Rifle is the Assault, so the Assault is the best of the Gallente variants, etc. A Gallente heavy weapon would be a completely different weapon from the Minmatar HMG, like the Scrambler Rifle is a different weapon from the Assault Rifle.
True. But the scrambler rifile and the plasma rifile are very simular, they both have 100% accuracy, do the same amount of base damage and have have full auto and single shot variants. Their different and all cuz one overheats and does various damage to tanking types, but theyre not very different because they preform the same, its just slitghtly more involved. A scrambler destroys everyone utterly just like the plasma and do it in the same fashion.
With all that being said i think the same experience will happen with the HMGs. Of course, the experience will be reversed as opposed to the ARs (cuz ARs are indeed better in every way than a gattling gun/HMG), that all the HMG variants will suck balls because the current one does, and they have to be based around our current piece of poop |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 04:13:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I would not be surprised seeing 1,500 Armor waddling around the battlefield.
thats... nothing. You say 1500 like its impressive. Yeah, theres like no one who has 1500 HP today but an AR would kill that in a single clip from 70 meters away. or a me grenade and less than a quarter clip |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 04:25:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:No, that wouldn't make any sense to have 2 weapons that covers the same role, only one is weaker (the Gallente one). RAther, the Gallente Heavy AI weapon could be something on the lines of a M2 HMG, but carried. pretty high damage, medium ROF, fast overheat, high recoil. low to medium range. -All tank blaster variants fulfill the same roll and they are all weaker than the scattered. -Breach shotgun and normal shotgun fulfill the same role and the breach is weaker. -Full auto AR fulfills the CQC roll better than the breech and long range better than the tact and even mid range better than the burst. -Normal scrambler pistol and burst pistol fulfills the same roll but normal scrambler is better -Assault SMG and breech SMG fulfill the same roll but the Assault is better. See a trend here or should i go on? The gallante HMG is going to suck balls when we get it in patch 2015. ops that an undefined date Yea, I know all that. They all need either removing, or fixing. Also, Stablized blaster needs buffing on the requirements to make it better, and the scattered needs a lower damage, and higher ROF. Then the blasters will be fine.
and the compressed needs to do the most damage on its level for standard and adv levels. The only one that does more damage for its level is the proto. So all the blasters excpet the normal ones. And the other HMGs will need re-balancing too |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:19:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:Exmaple Core wrote: breach AR. lol since when did AR users start using that? all i see these days are either Exile, Gek, Duovolle variants.
thats the joke... duh. its why the gallante HMG would be useless if we ever got it |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:20:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Wouldn't it just be a handheld scattered blaster turret?
lol no. Those things are useful and have range |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:30:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:My understanding was that the gallante heavy weapon would be a big **** off shotgun. An automatic shotgun if you will like this. http://youtu.be/gQWq1Z-J-EE
Lol an AA-12 x) That would be awsome, id use it on my heavy. As long as it is as rapeful as an AA-12. theres a reason the geneva convention has rules on it |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:33:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Alpha 443-6732 wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Gallente are close ranged power houses who love them some plasma. So a plasma HMG would have even shorter range than it does now and do more damage. So it would be the best counter to the breech AR. lol#20mHMG I really hope that the current minmatar hmg is a placeholder and that it will be overhauled. Also, still don't understand why the Gallente plasma rifle (all cqc, no regrets) has more range than the minmatar projectile hmg (mid range massacres) The range on the Assault Rifle (Plasma Rifle) will be shortened when the Combat Rifle is introduced. The HRMGÇÖs range is appropriate. It, like the SMG, is meant to be a close to near mid range weapon. ____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
You mean HMG? cuz both of those MGs fit the description. I doubt theyre going to reduce anything on a weapon because a new one was introduced, personally |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:36:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:My understanding was that the gallante heavy weapon would be a big **** off shotgun. An automatic shotgun if you will like this. http://youtu.be/gQWq1Z-J-EE Lol an AA-12 x) That would be awsome, id use it on my heavy. As long as it is as rapeful as an AA-12. theres a reason the geneva convention has rules on it Provided the range is short, I would expect anyone caught on the buisness end of the barrel they dead. But short range allows for a potential counter. A true badass niche weapon!
thats what im sayin. I would love that and all its just not competitively efficent. That means it sucks |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:51:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:My understanding was that the gallante heavy weapon would be a big **** off shotgun. An automatic shotgun if you will like this. http://youtu.be/gQWq1Z-J-EE Lol an AA-12 x) That would be awsome, id use it on my heavy. As long as it is as rapeful as an AA-12. theres a reason the geneva convention has rules on it Provided the range is short, I would expect anyone caught on the buisness end of the barrel they dead. But short range allows for a potential counter. A true badass niche weapon! thats what im sayin. I would love that and all its just not competitively efficent. That means it sucks You, have any of you seen the Heavies with Shotguns? It's laughable, I swear they play Yakkity Sax on their walk cycle. Useless no matter how many times I see it on the startup screen.
Lol exactly, they try to jump around and strafe but they never get to you and when they do, they die anyways cuz theyre easy to hit. Itl be the same thing with the gallente hmg. |
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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:58:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:]My understanding was that the gallante heavy weapon would be a big **** off shotgun. An automatic shotgun if you will like this. http://youtu.be/gQWq1Z-J-EE Lol an AA-12 x) That would be awsome, id use it on my heavy. As long as it is as rapeful as an AA-12. theres a reason the geneva convention has rules on it Provided the range is short, I would expect anyone caught on the buisness end of the barrel they dead. But short range allows for a potential counter. A true badass niche weapon! thats what im sayin. I would love that and all its just not competitively efficent. That means it sucks You, have any of you seen the Heavies with Shotguns? It's laughable, I swear they play Yakkity Sax on their walk cycle. Useless no matter how many times I see it on the startup screen.
Its gallante its gonna be short range! So why not make it a shotgun?[/quote]
because its a heavy with a shotty. its useless in competitve play. The only way to get a shotgun heavy to work is murder taxy, they cant do open or even urban combat around corners at pointblank. The hmg variant will be alittle more forgiving and might make it possible but not efficient. Like, remember the hmg range at the begging of uprising post nerf? Itd be that |
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