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Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
39
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Posted - 2013.09.23 03:58:00 -
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I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8731
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Posted - 2013.09.23 03:59:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views?
Make one yourself. This game doesn't provide you the why, you have to invent it. This game will provide the tools to help accomplish your why, some have even gone out of their way to invent new tools to assist in their nefarious ends. Want to be the best hired mercs on the block better work on that reputation. Want to conquer Molden Heth? its only a click jump and 120 clones and you will be on your way, want to destroy corporations from within? |
aden slayer
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
573
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:00:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views?
This is not the game for you then. Your purpose as a merc is to die for the paycheck. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
136
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:05:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views?
If you learn the Eve lore it can get really interesting. |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
39
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:06:00 -
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well, i'll just keep failing in my derpship then :) |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
39
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:08:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:If you learn the Eve lore it can get really interesting.
:o i'd like to know more. also think a campaign version of dust514 would be cool in the future. as a separate game i mean |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1268
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:12:00 -
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I fight for my Blood and for the Minmatari. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
456
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:13:00 -
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read Templar One. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
265
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:14:00 -
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Give me a reason to fight for Amarr. Loyalty points with it's own special store would be nice and a FW leaderboard would be cool also. |
21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
136
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:15:00 -
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You make it up as you go. This may help explain what I'm saying |
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
634
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:18:00 -
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I die to see that minmatar scum get blown up by my RE its a pretty good weapon to use against them since they created it XD |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
996
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Posted - 2013.09.23 04:37:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:If you learn the Eve lore it can get really interesting. :o i'd like to know more. also think a campaign version of dust514 would be cool in the future. as a separate game i mean
The basics.
Amarr, space-Catholics. They used to have the Minmatar as slaves, ruled by an Empress who is controlled by an AI, and are allied with the Caldari. Preferring aesthetics over function, they make everything LOOK good before it WORKS well, leading to heavy, but well armored designs. They prefer cleansing Laser fire over other conventional firearms. IO can't say much more about them, they change policies at an alarming rate.
Caldari, space-corporate. They used to have the Gallente as part of their nation. Ruled by a board of CEOs from the biggest companies, currently headed by Tibus Heth, who is not a very nice guy. He dropped a supercapital ship on the only other guy capable of leading the Caldari. Preferring function over all else, their designs tend to be optimized for immense shielding power, but don't function well as physical armor. They fire Missiles and Railguns over long distances to minimize financial losses, blasting a capsule over long distances until it makes contact and explodes.
Gallente, space-French. They left the Caldari for more personal freedoms. Ruled democratically, they formed an alliance with the Minmatar and shared some of their outdated tech with them in hopes of having an ally against the Caldari/Amarr alliance. Taking a similar design philosophy as their mother nation, they put their all into making powerful armor without the Amarr's lack of speed. They use Blaster weapons, a hybrid turret which explodes in the turret and fires the resultant energy in a bolt, as well as Combat Drones, small unmanned fighters designed to harry targets too slow to track them.
Minmatar, space-Tribes. They freed themselves from the Amarr because they didn't much care for being slaves. Living conditions in the Minmatar Republic aren't that much better than the slave quarters though. Using the magic of rust and duct tape, the Minmatar fly old hulks repurposed into sleek machines. Without the technological superiority of the Gallente's Armor, Caldari's Shield, or Amarr's Lasers, they rely more on speed and versatility and more 'conventional' weapons. Minmatar ships are eclectic, the Rifter relying on it's speed, the maelstrom on it's shield, the Tornado on it's sheer firepower. They use Artillery and Autocannons, firing immensely scaled up shells through the vacuum of space to deadly effect.
DUST is the result of the Amarr getting a Sleeper and reverse engineering their version of the conscience moving implants, allowing an infantry compacted version of the EVE pilot Pod system. The other nations quickly got their hands on it, with the Caldari only having the Ishukone corporation, the same one who's CEO got a ship dropped on him earlier. Ramifications of this are yet to be stated.
Want more? Go to EVElopedia and start rooting around. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
352
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Posted - 2013.09.23 05:40:00 -
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So are EVE players. The "connection" between the two games is bullshit. It will go the way of Walking in Stations, Captain's Quarters and the dodo bird. |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
371
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Posted - 2013.09.23 05:46:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote: also think a campaign version of dust514 would be cool in the future. as a separate game i mean
Not to put too fine a point on it, but we're already in the middle of the EON+FEC campaign... |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1924
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Posted - 2013.09.23 05:51:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? Make one yourself. This game doesn't provide you the why, you have to invent it. This game will provide the tools to help accomplish your why, some have even gone out of their way to invent new tools to assist in their nefarious ends. Want to be the best hired mercs on the block better work on that reputation. Want to conquer Molden Heth? its only a click jump and 120 clones and you will be on your way, want to destroy corporations from within? Usually I would agree with this but lately Dust just feels slow and stale right now. If it had a smell it'd smell like a nursing home. |
Thumb Green
Novashift
407
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Posted - 2013.09.23 05:53:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:
Caldari, space-corporate. They used to have the Gallente as part of their nation.
Gallente, space-French. They left the Caldari for more personal freedoms.
The Caldari used to be in the Gallente Federation. |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
998
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Posted - 2013.09.23 05:59:00 -
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Eh, knew I'd screw something up. Main reason I left Amarr out tbh. Corrected. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
672
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Posted - 2013.09.23 06:10:00 -
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They need to show players that they are actually making a change. (In FW and PC) Make headlines, recent news of major wars- close battles in PC, highest kill streak of the week(that rhymed ^-^) What percentage of the verse does minmatar own? What battles can well be available? We should be able to reserve a slot. Give every planet a purpose. One gives more isk because the planet is in good economical health, is used as supply grounds(gives better loot of the planets race), how important is the planet? Is it a home world? If its important than give it more clones, make it the headline of the day. "Major battle on blah blah 12 brings down the YOMAMA corporation.
Add constant running maps. When you quit you get your reward. (Requires you stay for some time) This could be good for major battles. Attacking a planets that are constantly active give better reward.
Some players may not want to have to join a corp to take down a target. We're mercs! Make FW have reserve possibilities or just instant looking for FW. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8737
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Posted - 2013.09.23 06:13:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? Make one yourself. This game doesn't provide you the why, you have to invent it. This game will provide the tools to help accomplish your why, some have even gone out of their way to invent new tools to assist in their nefarious ends. Want to be the best hired mercs on the block better work on that reputation. Want to conquer Molden Heth? its only a click jump and 120 clones and you will be on your way, want to destroy corporations from within? Usually I would agree with this but lately Dust just feels slow and stale right now. If it had a smell it'd smell like a nursing home.
Smells like an operating room to me. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8737
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Posted - 2013.09.23 06:15:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Eh, knew I'd screw something up. Main reason I left Amarr out tbh. Corrected.
Gallente ultranationalism drove the Caldari out. The whole you must be a democratic nation overly conflicted with how caldari did most things in a highly bureaucratic manner. One terrorist attack there and one bad election there and whallah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXWf-l71MY4 |
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
998
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Posted - 2013.09.23 06:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Eh, knew I'd screw something up. Main reason I left Amarr out tbh. Corrected. Gallente ultranationalism drove the Caldari out. The whole you must be a democratic nation overly conflicted with how caldari did most things in a highly bureaucratic manner. One terrorist attack there and one bad election there and whallah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXWf-l71MY4
The Gallente are always one step away from a witch hunt anyway, can't really blame the Caldari for wanting to leave. Love how the factions are 'real' and not one of the four is 'good' just less horrid. Minmatar living conditions are horrible, Amarr are racist zealots, Caldari are less than nothing if they lose their job, and Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1925
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Posted - 2013.09.23 06:28:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote: Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Damn this sounds so familiar.... |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
998
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Posted - 2013.09.23 06:30:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote: Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Damn this sounds so familiar.... There's a reason so many people think Gallente is Space-MURIKAH until told otherwise... |
Kazeno Rannaa
BIG BAD W0LVES
241
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Posted - 2013.09.23 07:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? Make one yourself. This game doesn't provide you the why, you have to invent it. This game will provide the tools to help accomplish your why, some have even gone out of their way to invent new tools to assist in their nefarious ends. Want to be the best hired mercs on the block better work on that reputation. Want to conquer Molden Heth? its only a click jump and 120 clones and you will be on your way, want to destroy corporations from within?
Too bad the reason to kill in DUST, and thereby desensitize ourselves even further to violence, is limited to Molden Heath as for playing in FW holds nothing interesting other than the occasional stomping of blueberries.
There is not slight mission arch to a PVE, because there is no PVE. The weapons, well after being here through 3 or 4 resets of the SP I have faithfully tried and proto'ed every weapon we have on the books.
I guess it is back to Balachs and Krins.
The thing is also, PC is still of a technical black hole that produces no other pleasure than the accumulation of property and perceived prestige in the community. And when I begin to really think about the people that I have more often than not had the displeasure of dealing with, I often think of "what kind is soo important and valuble about someone else's subjective interpretation and performances. . |
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CCP LogicLoop
C C P C C P Alliance
988
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Posted - 2013.09.23 07:45:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote: Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Damn this sounds so familiar.... There's a reason so many people think Gallente is Space-MURIKAH until told otherwise...
Huh... no wonder I am such a Gallente fan. |
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
680
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Posted - 2013.09.23 07:47:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote: Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Damn this sounds so familiar.... There's a reason so many people think Gallente is Space-MURIKAH until told otherwise... Huh... no wonder I am such a Gallente fan.
Everyone in ccp is obviously a Caldari/Amarr fan...and I'm pretty fine with that |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
629
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Posted - 2013.09.23 07:49:00 -
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Thats what got me into this game however we need more off the battlefield interaction, and our ingame escapades need more consequences! |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
400
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Posted - 2013.09.23 07:52:00 -
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"War, what is it good for?"
Sorry the lyrics just jumped in my head reading the title.
Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? Some of us are fine with senseless violence. Mainly if it is in the company of interesting guys on coms to BS with. |
Fire9er Greko
Axis of Chaos
79
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Posted - 2013.09.23 08:50:00 -
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I kill to protect my friends. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
530
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Posted - 2013.09.23 10:11:00 -
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The game is a bit boring. When you are capped, it's even more. I'm waiting 'til it gets better. |
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Turtle Hermit Roshi
Famous.OTF Only The Famous
28
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Posted - 2013.09.23 11:04:00 -
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i play for the rush of cutting down an sqd single handedly like a boss and i play to become the best pokemon trainer of molden heath
NOW ill beat you with the magicarp my dad gave me
*battle music) |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
634
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Posted - 2013.09.23 11:17:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote: i play for the rush of cutting down an sqd single handedly like a boss and i play to become the best pokemon trainer of molden heath
NOW ill beat you with the magicarp my dad gave me
*battle music)
To get to the gym leader you must pass through this tall grass! F#@$ it, Im going home!! |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3060
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Posted - 2013.09.23 11:31:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote: Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Damn this sounds so familiar.... There's a reason so many people think Gallente is Space-MURIKAH until told otherwise... Huh... no wonder I am such a Gallente fan.
Sad part is modern America is more akin to Caldari society/culture than Gallente now-a-days.
Gallente is sort of like... Hell. New Zealand. |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.09.23 12:02:00 -
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Here is one of, if not the biggest problems DUST has right now.
DUST is not EVE and most people that play Dust could give to flips about EVE.
Why?
Because CCP has not given us connection.
And to make things worse you have people like IWS telling us to make crap up and pretend.
Whatever! |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
472
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Posted - 2013.09.23 12:22:00 -
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GTA V FTW wrote:Here is one of, if not the biggest problems DUST has right now. DUST is not EVE and most people that play Dust could give to flips about EVE. Why? Because CCP has not given us connection. And to make things worse you have people like IWS telling us to make crap up and pretend. Whatever! I thought you would have been off to GTA V by now but noooooo, you continue bashing no matter what. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1294
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Posted - 2013.09.23 12:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? Make one yourself. This game doesn't provide you the why, you have to invent it. This game will provide the tools to help accomplish your why, some have even gone out of their way to invent new tools to assist in their nefarious ends. Want to be the best hired mercs on the block better work on that reputation. Want to conquer Molden Heth? its only a click jump and 120 clones and you will be on your way, want to destroy corporations from within?
That's like telling somebody that they can bang hot chicks if they just set their mind to it. |
J Falcs
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
116
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Posted - 2013.09.23 12:28:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? Make one yourself. This game doesn't provide you the why, you have to invent it. This game will provide the tools to help accomplish your why, some have even gone out of their way to invent new tools to assist in their nefarious ends. Want to be the best hired mercs on the block better work on that reputation. Want to conquer Molden Heth? its only a click jump and 120 clones and you will be on your way, want to destroy corporations from within? That's like telling somebody that they can bang hot chicks if they just set their mind to it.
I'll just leave this here.
http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/hkui0g/comedy-central-presents-life-is-what-you-make-it |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
76
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Posted - 2013.09.23 12:32:00 -
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GTA V FTW wrote:Here is one of, if not the biggest problems DUST has right now. DUST is not EVE and most people that play Dust could give to flips about EVE. Why? Because CCP has not given us connection. And to make things worse you have people like IWS telling us to make crap up and pretend. Whatever!
Because IWS entire CPM career is full of pretending and making **** up.... |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3061
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Posted - 2013.09.23 12:53:00 -
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Yeah, the half million people who play Eve Online TOTALLY needed someone to give them purpose, let me tell you.
Miners have more purpose than half of the Dust players. They're doing it for money. You guys? I dunno what you're doing anything for, honestly - and it shows that you don't either considering you have to ask for purpose.
I get no greater joy than dropping a Tactical Hybrid Strike for myself in PC. Got my television set up right next to my computer monitor. Hell, I even landed a kill in Eve Online while playing Dust 514:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20644140#mail
And you know what's the saddest thing about this thread? The fact that the majority of you are seasoned Shooter veterans, either from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Unreal or what have you. Did you need any purpose in those games other than to kill? To win the match?
What did you die in those games for, eh?
Some silly flag that was still going to be there the next game? In that exact same place, just waiting to change colors? Some bomb that was still going to be there waiting to be armed/defused? Some silly killboard?
You want purpose, open up the Starmap and take a look at the Factional Warfare colors. Or the Planetary Conquest colors. Die for one of those. You didn't need any other reason for any other game, so quit your whining, suit up and go kill something.
When someone tells you to make your own purpose, they're not joking, they're not lying and saying they are just shows how ignorant you really are. |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
462
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:24:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote: also think a campaign version of dust514 would be cool in the future. as a separate game i mean Not to put too fine a point on it, but we're already in the middle of the EON+FEC campaign...
That ended a long time ago; no one cares about PC or this game anymore. Once all of 1.5 content got delayed, no one cared anymore about this game. Thankfully for those who can easily afford the newer consoles or games, we have many other choices to pursue. |
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
979
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:26:00 -
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Myself, I find that I play for the sake of fun.
I really don't care for the campaign and multiplayer link, cause they don't play any different cause they linked the two with a story
More reason to play the game when playing solo would be needed when
LP for fighting in FW
Contracts from big corps that are during a bad time
Know what happened to the District you were fighting in after the battle.
All of those provide a bigger push toward turn the PS3 on the next time. |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:28:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah, the half million people who play Eve Online TOTALLY needed someone to give them purpose, let me tell you. Miners have more purpose than half of the Dust players. They're doing it for money. You guys? I dunno what you're doing anything for, honestly - and it shows that you don't either considering you have to ask for purpose. I get no greater joy than dropping a Tactical Hybrid Strike for myself in PC. Got my television set up right next to my computer monitor. Hell, I even landed a kill in Eve Online while playing Dust 514: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20644140#mailAnd you know what's the saddest thing about this thread? The fact that the majority of you are seasoned Shooter veterans, either from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Unreal or what have you. Did you need any purpose in those games other than to kill? To win the match? What did you die in those games for, eh? Some silly flag that was still going to be there the next game? In that exact same place, just waiting to change colors? Some bomb that was still going to be there waiting to be armed/defused? Some silly killboard? You want purpose, open up the Starmap and take a look at the Factional Warfare colors. Or the Planetary Conquest colors. Die for one of those. You didn't need any other reason for any other game, so quit your whining, suit up and go kill something. When someone tells you to make your own purpose, they're not joking, they're not lying and saying they are just shows how ignorant you really are.
EVE expansion confirmed ^
DUST is nothing more than a Lobby FPS expansion for EVE pew pew nerds proof right here ^
Sad really, pathetic and sad. |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
282
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:46:00 -
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I really don't see how EvE lore effects us outside of FW. It's just a lobby shooter. We need real battles with bigger numbers and maps that can have installation drops already. The RP to this game is impossible outside of chat - actually in game all you'll be doing is the same thing over and over again like some cheap 90's game. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2230
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:49:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:CCP LogicLoop wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote: Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Damn this sounds so familiar.... There's a reason so many people think Gallente is Space-MURIKAH until told otherwise... Huh... no wonder I am such a Gallente fan. Everyone in ccp is obviously a Caldari/Amarr fan...and I'm pretty fine with that I dunno about that. I know Wolfman is an Amarrian, I canonised him a couple of weeks back, he is now St Wolfman. |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
62
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? Make one yourself. This game doesn't provide you the why, you have to invent it. This game will provide the tools to help accomplish your why, some have even gone out of their way to invent new tools to assist in their nefarious ends. Want to be the best hired mercs on the block better work on that reputation. Want to conquer Molden Heth? its only a click jump and 120 clones and you will be on your way, want to destroy corporations from within?
want to play with more than 6 of your friends? you cant unless youre doing PC
want to be able to train with your squadmates on districts your corp owns? you cant
want to test out a fit before you deploy it in live combat? you cant
these are the tools im still waiting for. and i cant just do CCP's job for them and go make these tools myself. i have to wait for sometime this century |
Sgt Buttscratch
SLAPHAPPY BANDITS
799
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:25:00 -
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I was born into a Gallente life, my Parents were both military and brought me up with a strong belief in the Gallente Federation. At age 16 after completing my education in dimplomacy and armor engineering I joined the Gellente Federation Military. At this point I became a vegetable I guess, my clones on the other hand visited many planets, and fought bravely in a lot of wars. At the age of 26 my contract to serve the Gallente was up. I chose to continue doing the only thing I really knew how, to kill. Now I was doing it on a money based attitude, fighting for other peoples beliefs and greed. At the age of 28 I joined the GIANT corpoartion, and helped them take and defend districts within Molden Heath, a small system with not much pull in the universe, nether the less competition was fierce and the money was good. After nearly 4 years of fighting with GIANT and learning new combat skills I left the corporation to persue my own greed. I formed the SLAPHAPPY BANDITS and hold no alliance to anyone, I fight for money and money only.
I guess my reason for dying is maybe the fact I don't die, my clones die, but I make sure I take as many clones with me as possibel. After I die the system will ask me If I'd like to be recloned and placed back into battle, HELL ******* YEAH, worse thing about New Eden is the 10 second wait to generate a new clone. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
571
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:31:00 -
[47] - Quote
personally what I am dying for is variety on the field, aka bring all racial content and respec for all thus everyone can play what they want to create variety and to speed up balancing process. it gets really old getting killed be the same weapon all the time. |
Avallo Kantor
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
185
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:36:00 -
[48] - Quote
If I may throw this question out of other games, what exactly do you "fight" for in other games Multiplayer matches? K/DR? Some "rank"? A Badge?
I don't know of any FPS games where their mutliplayer is any deeper than lobby shooters, generally with a tacked on campaign that showcases everything I hate about the direction FPS went.
At least in DUST there exists the chance to have more meaningful multiplayer through PC, your battles can have a much longer impact upon your wallet, and it's possible to fight for some score other than K/DR. Many people keep pointing out that they don't "buy" the notion of making your own path, but I ask to them: "What do you die for in CoD, BF, or Halo Multiplayer?" |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3065
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:38:00 -
[49] - Quote
GTA V FTW wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah, the half million people who play Eve Online TOTALLY needed someone to give them purpose, let me tell you. Miners have more purpose than half of the Dust players. They're doing it for money. You guys? I dunno what you're doing anything for, honestly - and it shows that you don't either considering you have to ask for purpose. I get no greater joy than dropping a Tactical Hybrid Strike for myself in PC. Got my television set up right next to my computer monitor. Hell, I even landed a kill in Eve Online while playing Dust 514: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20644140#mailAnd you know what's the saddest thing about this thread? The fact that the majority of you are seasoned Shooter veterans, either from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Unreal or what have you. Did you need any purpose in those games other than to kill? To win the match? What did you die in those games for, eh? Some silly flag that was still going to be there the next game? In that exact same place, just waiting to change colors? Some bomb that was still going to be there waiting to be armed/defused? Some silly killboard? You want purpose, open up the Starmap and take a look at the Factional Warfare colors. Or the Planetary Conquest colors. Die for one of those. You didn't need any other reason for any other game, so quit your whining, suit up and go kill something. When someone tells you to make your own purpose, they're not joking, they're not lying and saying they are just shows how ignorant you really are. EVE expansion confirmed ^ DUST is nothing more than a Lobby FPS expansion for EVE pew pew nerds proof right here ^ Sad really, pathetic and sad.
You know what - I'll take the forum ban.
You really are stupid if you missed the entire context of my post.
Battlefield 3? Call of Duty? Lobby shooters. Both of them. Only thing they have that Dust doesn't is Campaign mode. That and some absolutely terrible hit box lag.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
306
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:39:00 -
[50] - Quote
Not much to fight for because the Dust-Eve connection is nearly non-existent. I do find it terribly ironic this thread and many comments in it come from people in the big blue blob Farmville alliance calling itself eon. Want some purpose and something to do? Take a break from the ego boosting pub stomping, grow some balls, and stab one of your alliance corps in the back. Until then, you really don't have the right to whine about the lack of a point to Dust, sorry. |
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
52
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:56:00 -
[51] - Quote
I can't really speak for anyone but myself. DUST is causing burnout because of a lack of variety/gameplay. DUST doesn't have much variety other than two options: play for ISK or play for real estate AND ISK. Granted; COD, Halo, insert any other shooter here, they have campaign and a multiplayer component. But DUST is supposed to have that EvE connection ( orbitals are the least important EvE/DUST connection) and doesn't.
I don't get why( or even if they are) EvE players are telling FPS players to find our own 'purpose.' Its easy for them to say this because EvE has a variety of things players can do. Until there is a variety of things to do in DUST, it will just be 'point and shoot' with no purpose. There needs to be other aspects to DUST than just real estate, ISK, and mindless pew pew. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
787
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:58:00 -
[52] - Quote
If you ever played Risk, then you know that occupying the Oceana server is the key to establishing global dominance. |
ABadMutha13
Nihil-Obstat Mercs General Tso's Alliance
23
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:04:00 -
[53] - Quote
Dust 514 is an awesome game where you take over planets and determine the fate of the universe. We operate in linked economies with the galaxy. We can buy and sell goods on a market. The lore is awesome and each race has its own perks. The battlefields are dynamic and balanced, along with many different game types. You can choose different roles like pilot, grunt, medic, scout, or even a gunner. Their are single player missions as well as multiplier missions. You can earn money and build an army. Each race has this AWESOME back story that ties directly to the characters through story driven narratives and missions that feel impactful. You decide the fate of worlds and participant in huge public events to change the universe.
OR
You play 3 game modes. No Single Player. You can customize load outs using the generate wheel used in Eve, Diablo 3, and a few others. Free to play model to get you to spend money supporting its development.
Which one are you playing? LOL...... |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2178
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:24:00 -
[54] - Quote
Zero Harpuia wrote:Minmatar living conditions are horrible, Amarr are racist zealots, Caldari are less than nothing if they lose their job, and Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Minmatar living conditions aren't just bad, but their people are excessively violent and have a bunch of crimes. Amarrians aren't racist (at least not more than any other race), the Amarr Empire is actually one of the most diverse societies in New Eden. However, they are very strict on religious views. Caldari is pretty much correct, business is everything. They will also sacrifice individuals if they believe it benefits the greater good. Gallente society is also addicted to drugs and other illegal activities and the government simply turns the other way. |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
Xaviah Reaper wrote:I feel a serious lack of any purpose in dust. no campaign, no drive. just pointless annihilation. I want a purpose and a reason to kill people in a game, and fun doesn't quite cut it for me. views? Try leaving Eon and joining up with a small corp or running solo all the time; we exist solely for Eon's amusement. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2238
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Posted - 2013.09.23 16:37:00 -
[56] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Minmatar living conditions are horrible, Amarr are racist zealots, Caldari are less than nothing if they lose their job, and Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Minmatar living conditions aren't just bad, but their people are excessively violent and have a bunch of crimes. Amarrians aren't racist (at least not more than any other race), the Amarr Empire is actually one of the most diverse societies in New Eden. However, they are very strict on religious views. Caldari is pretty much correct, business is everything. They will also sacrifice individuals if they believe it benefits the greater good. Gallente society is also addicted to drugs and other illegal activities and the government simply turns the other way. I don't think any ground in new eden is specifically racist. |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.09.23 17:44:00 -
[57] - Quote
Uh, to have fun playing the game? Same reason for any other FPS really; if you're not enjoying the game don't play it.
inb4 'lol quit 4 monthz ag0' |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8751
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:01:00 -
[58] - Quote
I am saving up for My Little Mobile Command Center. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1391
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
I'm dying for a good game... zing. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1092
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:11:00 -
[60] - Quote
I've yet to play or hear of any Multiplayer FPS that has more then a paper-thin story of why we are shooting the other team... APB has the "strongest" reason I've ever encountered and it is still pretty weaksauce, but I don't really play FPSes for the story, there is a reason after all that my favorite FPS is still Black after all these years. |
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ABadMutha13
Nihil-Obstat Mercs General Tso's Alliance
24
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:25:00 -
[61] - Quote
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:I've yet to play or hear of any Multiplayer FPS that has more then a paper-thin story of why we are shooting the other team... APB has the "strongest" reason I've ever encountered and it is still pretty weaksauce, but I don't really play FPSes for the story, there is a reason after all that my favorite FPS is still Black after all these years.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein -Team Based. -Multiple Game Play Types. -Awesome weapons -Kill Bad German's or Ally's (Best reason ever) -Arguably better physics and graphics.... (tee hee hee) BOOM |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
305
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:45:00 -
[62] - Quote
I do hear what the op is saying. It would be great if we could truly work for or even join one of the empires o fight for them. It would also be great if there was a loyalty system with rewards that are racial to who you are fighting for and rewards that are nice!
(Cough faction weapons for faction fighters!) |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:51:00 -
[63] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:
You know what - I'll take the forum ban.
You really are stupid if you missed the entire context of my post.
Battlefield 3? Call of Duty? Lobby shooters. Both of them. Only thing they have that Dust doesn't is Campaign mode. That and some absolutely terrible hit box lag.
Banned for what?
Having an opinion?
Hey, opinion's are like A-Holes, we all got em!
I can not help it if people take offense to my opinions.
Jeeeezzzz some people need to lighten up around here, I mean it is only a LOL Lobby FPS Video Game. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
358
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:33:00 -
[64] - Quote
Zero Harpuia wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote: Gallente society is ridiculously paranoid. Damn this sounds so familiar.... There's a reason so many people think Gallente is Space-MURIKAH until told otherwise...
Lol, Gallente is America. Caldari is america through and through with mega corporations, utilitarian designs, militant overtones (all of which I'm proud of btw).
Gallente are french decent and represent the french ideals exactly. |
Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
48
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:46:00 -
[65] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah, the half million people who play Eve Online TOTALLY needed someone to give them purpose, let me tell you. Miners have more purpose than half of the Dust players. They're doing it for money. You guys? I dunno what you're doing anything for, honestly - and it shows that you don't either considering you have to ask for purpose. I get no greater joy than dropping a Tactical Hybrid Strike for myself in PC. Got my television set up right next to my computer monitor. Hell, I even landed a kill in Eve Online while playing Dust 514: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20644140#mailAnd you know what's the saddest thing about this thread? The fact that the majority of you are seasoned Shooter veterans, either from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Unreal or what have you. Did you need any purpose in those games other than to kill? To win the match? What did you die in those games for, eh? Some silly flag that was still going to be there the next game? In that exact same place, just waiting to change colors? Some bomb that was still going to be there waiting to be armed/defused? Some silly killboard? You want purpose, open up the Starmap and take a look at the Factional Warfare colors. Or the Planetary Conquest colors. Die for one of those. You didn't need any other reason for any other game, so quit your whining, suit up and go kill something. When someone tells you to make your own purpose, they're not joking, they're not lying and saying they are just shows how ignorant you really are. So the problem is that there isn't enough variety of things to do. We have FW which lets you fight for the side of your Choice, Then PC lets Corps Fight for territory. So the problem with FW is that there's no real gain for fighting for a faction accept for the satisfaction of defeating for enemies. The problem with PC is that one not everyone can compete with these top tier corps, Two is that there's no real gain unless your apart of Eon which holds most of the district of Molden Heath. Yes we Should look to find something to fight for but two real options give the newberries no real incentive to do so. For example if we had PvE from what i've come to find out what it would be is that these drones would infest said district and we as mercs would get payed to go in and clean it out. So say a corp is in a war and one of their districts got infested and don't have the resources to deal with it I would get a squad to do the job. Anther example if there was a DUST PLAYER MARKET where we as dust players can trade and sell items(this wouldn't be connected with EvE yet). I would be a broker for people so they can go fight in there battles and don't have a worries of running out of items they want for a price. In EvE they have a lot of options to do and gain for what ever they do. As for me i understand that that this game has a long way to go but i think there should of been some implemented long time ago like all racial suits. As for what where dieing for yes i agree that you should make your own path but as of right now there isn't a lot of paths to chose from. Also i do support this game 100% and i do understand things take time to become great. |
Gods Architect
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
484
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:53:00 -
[66] - Quote
I fight for the survival and prosperity of my corp. It's almost like fighting for a country |
broonfondle majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
265
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:56:00 -
[67] - Quote
I fight for ISK. ISK gives me Dropships Dropships make me smile
shame I can't cut out the middle man and earn more isk from flying |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1092
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:58:00 -
[68] - Quote
Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:
Gallente is America. Caldari is america
Everything is America. America is everything.
USA number 1. 'Murica. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3075
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:02:00 -
[69] - Quote
Nyra Volki wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah, the half million people who play Eve Online TOTALLY needed someone to give them purpose, let me tell you. Miners have more purpose than half of the Dust players. They're doing it for money. You guys? I dunno what you're doing anything for, honestly - and it shows that you don't either considering you have to ask for purpose. I get no greater joy than dropping a Tactical Hybrid Strike for myself in PC. Got my television set up right next to my computer monitor. Hell, I even landed a kill in Eve Online while playing Dust 514: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20644140#mailAnd you know what's the saddest thing about this thread? The fact that the majority of you are seasoned Shooter veterans, either from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Unreal or what have you. Did you need any purpose in those games other than to kill? To win the match? What did you die in those games for, eh? Some silly flag that was still going to be there the next game? In that exact same place, just waiting to change colors? Some bomb that was still going to be there waiting to be armed/defused? Some silly killboard? You want purpose, open up the Starmap and take a look at the Factional Warfare colors. Or the Planetary Conquest colors. Die for one of those. You didn't need any other reason for any other game, so quit your whining, suit up and go kill something. When someone tells you to make your own purpose, they're not joking, they're not lying and saying they are just shows how ignorant you really are. So the problem is that there isn't enough variety of things to do. We have FW which lets you fight for the side of your Choice, Then PC lets Corps Fight for territory. So the problem with FW is that there's no real gain for fighting for a faction accept for the satisfaction of defeating for enemies. The problem with PC is that one not everyone can compete with these top tier corps, Two is that there's no real gain unless your apart of Eon which holds most of the district of Molden Heath. Yes we Should look to find something to fight for but two real options give the newberries no real incentive to do so. For example if we had PvE from what i've come to find out what it would be is that these drones would infest said district and we as mercs would get payed to go in and clean it out. So say a corp is in a war and one of their districts got infested and don't have the resources to deal with it I would get a squad to do the job. Anther example if there was a DUST PLAYER MARKET where we as dust players can trade and sell items(this wouldn't be connected with EvE yet). I would be a broker for people so they can go fight in there battles and don't have a worries of running out of items they want for a price. In EvE they have a lot of options to do and gain for what ever they do. As for me i understand that that this game has a long way to go but i think there should of been some implemented long time ago like all racial suits. As for what where dieing for yes i agree that you should make your own path but as of right now there isn't a lot of paths to chose from. Also i do support this game 100% and i do understand things take time to become great.
ANONYMOUS is doing just fine despite this current fad that you can't do anything without EON and we're not even a part of an alliance. So, don't say it can't be done. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2249
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:10:00 -
[70] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah, the half million people who play Eve Online TOTALLY needed someone to give them purpose, let me tell you. Miners have more purpose than half of the Dust players. They're doing it for money. You guys? I dunno what you're doing anything for, honestly - and it shows that you don't either considering you have to ask for purpose. I get no greater joy than dropping a Tactical Hybrid Strike for myself in PC. Got my television set up right next to my computer monitor. Hell, I even landed a kill in Eve Online while playing Dust 514: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20644140#mailAnd you know what's the saddest thing about this thread? The fact that the majority of you are seasoned Shooter veterans, either from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Unreal or what have you. Did you need any purpose in those games other than to kill? To win the match? What did you die in those games for, eh? Some silly flag that was still going to be there the next game? In that exact same place, just waiting to change colors? Some bomb that was still going to be there waiting to be armed/defused? Some silly killboard? You want purpose, open up the Starmap and take a look at the Factional Warfare colors. Or the Planetary Conquest colors. Die for one of those. You didn't need any other reason for any other game, so quit your whining, suit up and go kill something. When someone tells you to make your own purpose, they're not joking, they're not lying and saying they are just shows how ignorant you really are. So the problem is that there isn't enough variety of things to do. We have FW which lets you fight for the side of your Choice, Then PC lets Corps Fight for territory. So the problem with FW is that there's no real gain for fighting for a faction accept for the satisfaction of defeating for enemies. The problem with PC is that one not everyone can compete with these top tier corps, Two is that there's no real gain unless your apart of Eon which holds most of the district of Molden Heath. Yes we Should look to find something to fight for but two real options give the newberries no real incentive to do so. For example if we had PvE from what i've come to find out what it would be is that these drones would infest said district and we as mercs would get payed to go in and clean it out. So say a corp is in a war and one of their districts got infested and don't have the resources to deal with it I would get a squad to do the job. Anther example if there was a DUST PLAYER MARKET where we as dust players can trade and sell items(this wouldn't be connected with EvE yet). I would be a broker for people so they can go fight in there battles and don't have a worries of running out of items they want for a price. In EvE they have a lot of options to do and gain for what ever they do. As for me i understand that that this game has a long way to go but i think there should of been some implemented long time ago like all racial suits. As for what where dieing for yes i agree that you should make your own path but as of right now there isn't a lot of paths to chose from. Also i do support this game 100% and i do understand things take time to become great. ANONYMOUS is doing just fine despite this current fad that you can't do anything without EON and we're not even a part of an alliance. So, don't say it can't be done. Yup PIE fights you guys whenever we get the chance on any battlefield you turn up on if we can, and we're an 8 man corp, with only 3 regular players. Still I find fighting for the Amarr a worthwhile cause to dedicate my time to, however I only wish we had AMARR HAV so that I didn't have to rely in Gallentean crap. |
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
49
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:28:00 -
[71] - Quote
My point is there isn't a great reward system or enough variety things to do as said in may post ^^^^. also i said is that when it comes to PC to gain a substantial amount of isk (which is what PC only good for) is your good enough to even hold a district long enough to do so. Never said you can play PC just that majority can't compete |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
1005
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:13:00 -
[72] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Yeah, the half million people who play Eve Online TOTALLY needed someone to give them purpose, let me tell you. Miners have more purpose than half of the Dust players. They're doing it for money. You guys? I dunno what you're doing anything for, honestly - and it shows that you don't either considering you have to ask for purpose. I get no greater joy than dropping a Tactical Hybrid Strike for myself in PC. Got my television set up right next to my computer monitor. Hell, I even landed a kill in Eve Online while playing Dust 514: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20644140#mailAnd you know what's the saddest thing about this thread? The fact that the majority of you are seasoned Shooter veterans, either from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Unreal or what have you. Did you need any purpose in those games other than to kill? To win the match? What did you die in those games for, eh? Some silly flag that was still going to be there the next game? In that exact same place, just waiting to change colors? Some bomb that was still going to be there waiting to be armed/defused? Some silly killboard? You want purpose, open up the Starmap and take a look at the Factional Warfare colors. Or the Planetary Conquest colors. Die for one of those. You didn't need any other reason for any other game, so quit your whining, suit up and go kill something. When someone tells you to make your own purpose, they're not joking, they're not lying and saying they are just shows how ignorant you really are. So the problem is that there isn't enough variety of things to do. We have FW which lets you fight for the side of your Choice, Then PC lets Corps Fight for territory. So the problem with FW is that there's no real gain for fighting for a faction accept for the satisfaction of defeating for enemies. The problem with PC is that one not everyone can compete with these top tier corps, Two is that there's no real gain unless your apart of Eon which holds most of the district of Molden Heath. Yes we Should look to find something to fight for but two real options give the newberries no real incentive to do so. For example if we had PvE from what i've come to find out what it would be is that these drones would infest said district and we as mercs would get payed to go in and clean it out. So say a corp is in a war and one of their districts got infested and don't have the resources to deal with it I would get a squad to do the job. Anther example if there was a DUST PLAYER MARKET where we as dust players can trade and sell items(this wouldn't be connected with EvE yet). I would be a broker for people so they can go fight in there battles and don't have a worries of running out of items they want for a price. In EvE they have a lot of options to do and gain for what ever they do. As for me i understand that that this game has a long way to go but i think there should of been some implemented long time ago like all racial suits. As for what where dieing for yes i agree that you should make your own path but as of right now there isn't a lot of paths to chose from. Also i do support this game 100% and i do understand things take time to become great. ANONYMOUS is doing just fine despite this current fad that you can't do anything without EON and we're not even a part of an alliance. So, don't say it can't be done. Yup PIE fights you guys whenever we get the chance on any battlefield you turn up on if we can, and we're an 8 man corp, with only 3 regular players. Still I find fighting for the Amarr a worthwhile cause to dedicate my time to, however I only wish we had AMARR HAV so that I didn't have to rely in Gallentean crap.
I'm dying to see the Amarr and Minmatar HAVs. Gallente and Caldari have somewhat similar design aesthetics, but the Amarr and Minmatar are completely different.
I imagine the Amarr HAV as a Trilobite or Horseshoe Crab, with better turning ability, more armor, but a shield that a Drosuit would be ashamed of. I'd love to see them prowling the battlefield... especially with the wealth of machinima that a new platform for an AMARR RAVE PARTY would generate.
As for Minmatar... it's kinda useless to speculate. Beyond saying it should have solar panels, Minmatar designs are kinda eclectic and many times asymmetrical. |
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