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KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 752	Posted - 2013.09.23 22:18:00 - [31] - Quote Hmm. Normal AR seems to have stupendously LARGE clip, I'd even vote for reducing it to 50 or 48. But then again, that is influenced by my shocked reaction coming back to normal AR from TAR... 18 shots is SO little that doublebuffered suits are unlikely take down on one clip in usual combat situation.
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 444	Posted - 2013.09.23 22:23:00 - [32] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: I like to think its well known by now that the ones really crying about the AR are the older guys that wandered in here from EVE that just cant keep up with younger guys Hell, I myself am only in my mid twenties but you put me up against some 16 year old wired on red bull that only plays games all day and hes going to shoot much better than me I agreed with a post of Delta..! "Never say never"... damn, it's true!
Rudy Vandersario Famous Wolf 55	Posted - 2013.09.23 22:27:00 - [33] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: so you are kindasortatechnically 'right.' Ya, your comparing militia rifles to the non-militia AR. You are a perfect example of the OP post. Excuse me, but what the F&K are you talking about? Let my line it up so your puny mind may comprehend. Assault Rifle: 60 Shots flat Scrambler Rifle: 45 Shots, overheats after 15~, dependent on skills Laser Rifle: 100 Shots per clip, 60 per burst, 30 per burst at full power. Militia Assault Rifle: 30 Shots. The AssRifle has more shots than the other two. The other Rifles have no change to clip at Militia level. So please, grow a brain. The militia assault rifle has 48 shots Just wanted to highlight this because it's always nice when a self important sarcastic *** gets burned.
Mejt0 D3LTA ACADEMY 23	Posted - 2013.09.23 23:00:00 - [34] - Quote Hey Brainers! Who says 60 is low? Lol maybe if you shoot full clip at enemy foots or next to him. Next one. Guy that created thred. Lasers and scram have better? I play AR and Laser. Laser have 100but? Overheat and cooldown is same as reload in AR. Lasers have 80% to armor which more ppl are using now. And another thing. Duvolle AR outranges/outdamage most guns. Try it :] [go with laser next to team,re high place and youre king of the hill]
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1232	Posted - 2013.09.23 23:05:00 - [35] - Quote Soldier of Mawat wrote: A skilled player can kill multiple people with a single magazine of an AR, especially with a few ranks in proficiency. I can get multiple kills with a 'burnstalk' LR with 0 SP in the ******* thing and go >3.0 kdr with it. So?
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1006	Posted - 2013.09.24 00:05:00 - [36] - Quote Rudy Vandersario wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: so you are kindasortatechnically 'right.' Ya, your comparing militia rifles to the non-militia AR. You are a perfect example of the OP post. Excuse me, but what the F&K are you talking about? Let my line it up so your puny mind may comprehend. Assault Rifle: 60 Shots flat Scrambler Rifle: 45 Shots, overheats after 15~, dependent on skills Laser Rifle: 100 Shots per clip, 60 per burst, 30 per burst at full power. Militia Assault Rifle: 30 Shots. The AssRifle has more shots than the other two. The other Rifles have no change to clip at Militia level. So please, grow a brain. The militia assault rifle has 48 shots Just wanted to highlight this because it's always nice when a self important sarcastic *** gets burned. So even the Militia Assault Rifle has more shots than the other two. I stand corrected. Not sure if it was a burn tho.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1007	Posted - 2013.09.24 00:11:00 - [37] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: RA Drahcir wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: I believe that players are dumping more SP into AR then other weapons. A player with level 3 in Laser rifles is complaining that a AR player is winning with more damage. That is not OP that is more skill. If I run into players equally invested in another weapon they have a good chance to kill me and a really good chance at a distance as Scram and Laser give more damage at farther ranges. The thing I have not seen mentioned the AR has the smallest clip. A skilled Scram player or Laser can kill multi targets with one clip size. Worry about over heat and such but waiting till AR is reloading give a good 3+ sec advantage. Everyone starts with the AR so it is most common. I think if each class/race started with different starter weapons you would not see that. False. There is no weakness to the AR. Weaker then Laser vs shields, smaller clip size (laser rifles pound shield tanks). Weaker then Scram at range, unable to charge a shot Weaker then a Mass Driver - can't one shot. Weaker then a Sniper Rifle at long range Weaker then a Shot Gun at close range 1. Laser is only better in the sweet spot of 78-82 meters. 2. Far stronger at close range, and has more absolute damage than Scrambler. 3. Mass Driver can one-shot a scout maybe, but an AR can kill one just as fast. 4. Weaker than a Sniper at extreme long range, but can easily kill them at conventional long range. 5. As good as a shotgun at close range, as a spray is assured hits whereas a pellet can miss easily.
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1101	Posted - 2013.09.24 00:17:00 - [38] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: I believe that players are dumping more SP into AR then other weapons. A player with level 3 in Laser rifles is complaining that a AR player is winning with more damage. That is not OP that is more skill. If I run into players equally invested in another weapon they have a good chance to kill me and a really good chance at a distance as Scram and Laser give more damage at farther ranges. The thing I have not seen mentioned the AR has the smallest clip. A skilled Scram player or Laser can kill multi targets with one clip size. Worry about over heat and such but waiting till AR is reloading give a good 3+ sec advantage. Everyone starts with the AR so it is most common. I think if each class/race started with different starter weapons you would not see that. AR has a 60 round magazine, never overheats near perfect accuracy almost no damage fall off upto 88 meters range (when the lazer is supposed to do its max damage) and does 500+ with 12 shots (not including proficiency, damage mods, or bonus 10%). kinda op
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1101	Posted - 2013.09.24 00:18:00 - [39] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: RA Drahcir wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: I believe that players are dumping more SP into AR then other weapons. A player with level 3 in Laser rifles is complaining that a AR player is winning with more damage. That is not OP that is more skill. If I run into players equally invested in another weapon they have a good chance to kill me and a really good chance at a distance as Scram and Laser give more damage at farther ranges. The thing I have not seen mentioned the AR has the smallest clip. A skilled Scram player or Laser can kill multi targets with one clip size. Worry about over heat and such but waiting till AR is reloading give a good 3+ sec advantage. Everyone starts with the AR so it is most common. I think if each class/race started with different starter weapons you would not see that. False. There is no weakness to the AR. Weaker then Laser vs shields, smaller clip size (laser rifles pound shield tanks). Weaker then Scram at range, unable to charge a shot Weaker then a Mass Driver - can't one shot. Weaker then a Sniper Rifle at long range Weaker then a Shot Gun at close range 1. Laser is only better in the sweet spot of 78-82 meters. 2. Far stronger at close range, and has more absolute damage than Scrambler. 3. Mass Driver can one-shot a scout maybe, but an AR can kill one just as fast. 4. Weaker than a Sniper at extreme long range, but can easily kill them at conventional long range. 5. As good as a shotgun at close range, as a spray is assured hits whereas a pellet can miss easily. for more information on the strengths of the AR, and the fact that it has no weakness go here
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1101	Posted - 2013.09.24 00:22:00 - [40] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Hey Brainers! Who says 60 is low? Lol maybe if you shoot full clip at enemy foots or next to him. Next one. Guy that created thred. Lasers and scram have better? I play AR and Laser. Laser have 100but? Overheat and cooldown is same as reload in AR. Lasers have 80% to armor which more ppl are using now. And another thing. Duvolle AR outranges/outdamage most guns. Try it :] [go with laser next to team,re high place and youre king of the hill] https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108657&find=unread also, the AR out DPS most of these gus at a much longer range. Lazers, and scramblers have limitations that are unavoidable. (when fired in quick succesion Scr overheats after 7 shots...) The AR has no limitations. and like you mentioned the GEK and duvolle have greater range.

D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1101	Posted - 2013.09.24 00:25:00 - [41] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Delta 749 wrote: I like to think its well known by now that the ones really crying about the AR are the older guys that wandered in here from EVE that just cant keep up with younger guys Hell, I myself am only in my mid twenties but you put me up against some 16 year old wired on red bull that only plays games all day and hes going to shoot much better than me False. Ppl who use most non-AR weapons cry about AR. Something is wrong when a heavy does better with an AR than HMG and something is wrong that a guy who picked up Plasma Cannon and skilled into it goes 1/5 KDR. yep. I do way better with AR than I do with HMG, unless the person is 5m away and directly infront of me. but at that point after i take out the first guy with my HMG the second behind him kills me wit easy because of the high damage on the AR....lolz even lance2ballzstrong switched over to AR
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1189	Posted - 2013.09.24 00:30:00 - [42] - Quote I have found that if I'm reloading before I complete the kill, that means my first shots weren't hitting the mark properly. It's almost like banging on a drumkit, its about timing. And If you mess up, or hit that cymbal at the wrong time, its quite noticeable when you do it. The key is to control your fire. As much as we want to just lay in on the opponent, when folks strafe and/or jump around like a House of Pain track, and if you're still firing while you do that, you're at least unloading 10 rounds into nothing. My aim is not the best but when I'm doing good I always finish my opponent before I run out of ammo. I'm usually reloading in the downtime between the firefights. Rarely do I run out of ammo in a heated firefight.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1021	Posted - 2013.09.24 22:06:00 - [43] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Delta 749 wrote: I like to think its well known by now that the ones really crying about the AR are the older guys that wandered in here from EVE that just cant keep up with younger guys Hell, I myself am only in my mid twenties but you put me up against some 16 year old wired on red bull that only plays games all day and hes going to shoot much better than me False. Ppl who use most non-AR weapons cry about AR. Something is wrong when a heavy does better with an AR than HMG and something is wrong that a guy who picked up Plasma Cannon and skilled into it goes 1/5 KDR. yep. I do way better with AR than I do with HMG, unless the person is 5m away and directly infront of me. but at that point after i take out the first guy with my HMG the second behind him kills me wit easy because of the high damage on the AR....lolz even lance2ballzstrong switched over to AR Every time I see a Heavy with an AR, I die alittle inside. That ALONE should have gotten people thinking 'The guy with the HUGEASS Auotocannon is being outranged and out DPSed by a medium blaster. Somthing ain't addin' up Cletus!'
negative49er Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 201	Posted - 2013.09.24 22:41:00 - [44] - Quote it do too much damage to care about reload and ammo
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2013.09.25 05:22:00 - [45] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: D legendary hero wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Delta 749 wrote: I like to think its well known by now that the ones really crying about the AR are the older guys that wandered in here from EVE that just cant keep up with younger guys Hell, I myself am only in my mid twenties but you put me up against some 16 year old wired on red bull that only plays games all day and hes going to shoot much better than me False. Ppl who use most non-AR weapons cry about AR. Something is wrong when a heavy does better with an AR than HMG and something is wrong that a guy who picked up Plasma Cannon and skilled into it goes 1/5 KDR. yep. I do way better with AR than I do with HMG, unless the person is 5m away and directly infront of me. but at that point after i take out the first guy with my HMG the second behind him kills me wit easy because of the high damage on the AR....lolz even lance2ballzstrong switched over to AR Every time I see a Heavy with an AR, I die alittle inside. That ALONE should have gotten people thinking 'The guy with the HUGEASS Auotocannon is being outranged and out DPSed by a medium blaster. Somthing ain't addin' up Cletus!' So melodramatic you guys.. The point of this thread was that some of the QQers are comparing lvl 3 skills to fully skilled AR players. These heavy weapons are the same - They are hardest to skill into, heavy requires more +5s. So they don't have the skill so they use starter weapons they already have the skills for. Sad your right.


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