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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
6107
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Posted - 2013.09.22 02:21:00 -
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First, look at this great Dust 514 fan art from the Dust 514 art contest: http://hughebdy.deviantart.com/art/Dust-514-364728479 , see all these awesome gunfire colors? Now go play Dust, all you will see is yellow flying around, and the occasional blue-green of a laser rifles. Its both an aesthetic issue, and a minor game design issue; gunfire and muzzle flash color should let you know what sorts of weapons you're dealing with.
Plasma AR: yellow Plasma cannon: yellow Shotgun: yellow
Projectiles SMG: orange HMG: yellow
Lasers Scrambler pistol: yellow Scrambler rifle: yellow Laser rifle: boring white with a blue-green hue around the edge of the beam.
Railguns Forge gun: blue Sniper rifle: blue
Yellow: 6 (overwhelming victory) Blue: 2 blue-green: 1 Orange: 1
The Caldari magsec SMG and rail rifle will likely add more blue on the battlefield (judging from other Caldari railgun weapons).
The SMG, HMG (and probably the upcoming Minmatar combat rifle's rifle) will need to have more reddish muzzle flash to make their fire more visually unique compared to plasma weapons in my opinion.These are not the main problem.
The main problem is the scrambler weapons and the plasma weapons having the same color. I propose making laser weapons (scrambler pistol, scrambler rifle, and laser rifle) all fire blue-green like the laser rifle. Charge-shots from regular scrambler rifles could be red or even purple, it would look great.
These are not that important, but they are certainly easy to do. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2146
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:03:00 -
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Amarr should shoot bright white, initially, though gets more yellow the more it heats up. Plasma should be red with a purple finish around the edge. Minmatar weaponry should be Orange with a very light red finish. Caldari is fine. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
208
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:09:00 -
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I think that red or purple would do the scramblers good. It would set them out from the crowd, purple especially, seeing as it is yellow's contrast color. Red would work but it would feel kinda too stereotypical. |
Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
17
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:16:00 -
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They should make the race of your dropsuit determine the color of plasma your weapons shoot. Caldari should have Blue plasma with a white outline. Cadari Ar's should be black and dark blue in color. Amarr should keep the color they got. Am Amarr style AR would be nice too. Gallente should have green plasma with a white outline. I think Gallente AR's are already green in color. Minmatar should have dark red plasma.Minmatar AR's should be the rusty brown everybody loves. These changes would be awesome if it was for more weapons than AR's. |
1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
119
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:25:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:First, look at this great Dust 514 fan art from the Dust 514 art contest: http://hughebdy.deviantart.com/art/Dust-514-364728479 , see all these awesome gunfire colors? Now go play Dust, all you will see is yellow flying around, and the occasional blue-green of a laser rifles. Its both an aesthetic issue, and a minor game design issue; gunfire and muzzle flash color should let you know what sorts of weapons you're dealing with. PlasmaAR: yellow Plasma cannon: yellow Shotgun: yellow ProjectilesSMG: orange HMG: yellow LasersScrambler pistol: yellow Scrambler rifle: yellow Laser rifle: boring white with a blue-green hue around the edge of the beam. RailgunsForge gun: blue Sniper rifle: blue Yellow: 6 (overwhelming victory) Blue: 2 blue-green: 1 Orange: 1 The Caldari magsec SMG and rail rifle will likely add more blue on the battlefield (judging from other Caldari railgun weapons).
The SMG, HMG (and probably the upcoming Minmatar combat rifle's rifle) will need to have more reddish muzzle flash to make their fire more visually unique compared to plasma weapons in my opinion.These are not the main problem.
The main problem is the scrambler weapons and the plasma weapons having the same color. I propose making laser weapons (scrambler pistol, scrambler rifle, and laser rifle) all fire blue-green like the laser rifle. Charge-shots from regular scrambler rifles could be red or even purple, it would look great.
These are not that important, but they are certainly easy to do.
I really like reading your idea threads and subsequently this is a great idea +1 |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
208
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:44:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:They should make the race of your dropsuit determine the color of plasma your weapons shoot. Caldari should have Blue plasma with a white outline. Cadari Ar's should be black and dark blue in color. Amarr should keep the color they got. Am Amarr style AR would be nice too. Gallente should have green plasma with a white outline. I think Gallente AR's are already green in color. Minmatar should have dark red plasma.Minmatar AR's should be the rusty brown everybody loves. These changes would be awesome if it was for more weapons than AR's. No to the first sentence as that makes no sense. Caldari weapons don't shoot plasma, they shoot railguns and missiles, but they will be gray/black/dark blue in color. Amarr weapons(lasers, with some plasma in scrambler weapons) shoot all the colors, and we already have an Amarr Assault Rifle. Gallente Plasma should be orange and green in color, and yes, their weapons are green. Minmatar don't shoot plasma either, they shoot bullets and explosives, their rounds should be orange/yellow and explodey. |
SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
199
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Posted - 2013.09.22 05:39:00 -
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Caldari-blue/black
Amarr-yellow/white
Minnie-orange/red
Galente-green/purple
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3654
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Posted - 2013.09.22 16:08:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:First, look at this great Dust 514 fan art from the Dust 514 art contest: http://hughebdy.deviantart.com/art/Dust-514-364728479 , see all these awesome gunfire colors? Now go play Dust, all you will see is yellow flying around, and the occasional blue-green of a laser rifles. Its both an aesthetic issue, and a minor game design issue; gunfire and muzzle flash color should let you know what sorts of weapons you're dealing with. PlasmaAR: yellow Plasma cannon: yellow Shotgun: yellow ProjectilesSMG: orange HMG: yellow LasersScrambler pistol: yellow Scrambler rifle: yellow Laser rifle: boring white with a blue-green hue around the edge of the beam. RailgunsForge gun: blue Sniper rifle: blue Yellow: 6 (overwhelming victory) Blue: 2 blue-green: 1 Orange: 1 The Caldari magsec SMG and rail rifle will likely add more blue on the battlefield (judging from other Caldari railgun weapons).
The SMG, HMG (and probably the upcoming Minmatar combat rifle's rifle) will need to have more reddish muzzle flash to make their fire more visually unique compared to plasma weapons in my opinion.These are not the main problem.
The main problem is the scrambler weapons and the plasma weapons having the same color. I propose making laser weapons (scrambler pistol, scrambler rifle, and laser rifle) all fire blue-green like the laser rifle. Charge-shots from regular scrambler rifles could be red or even purple, it would look great.
These are not that important, but they are certainly easy to do. Actually, why not have the Laser Rifle beam start out blue-green, but then become white and have more bloom applied to it the hotter it gets, providing visual feedback to the target about how ****** they're about to be.
You could do the same thing with charge shots from the Scrambler rifle. |
Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
1
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Posted - 2013.09.22 19:13:00 -
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I think scrambler weapons should be purple or blue-ish green (for scorch and conflagration crystals associated with tech II pulse lasers space-side) maybe standards are purple, while assaults are the blue-ish green, while beams should be white and red (for gleam and aurora crystals from the beam lasers). Railguns and Blasters could be color coded for your convenience (green for Gallente blasters, blue for Caldari rails). Mattari bullets could be the classic yellow-orange tracer round color |
Hexen Trickster
Industrial removal service
82
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Posted - 2013.09.23 17:21:00 -
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Amarr guns are correct scrambler pistols and rifles are using standard crytals while the laser rifle is using gamma crystals
What we need is ammo types |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
6141
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:26:00 -
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Hexen Trickster wrote:Amarr guns are correct scrambler pistols and rifles are using standard crytals while the laser rifle is using gamma crystals
What we need is ammo types Its not a matter of "correct" or not, its a matter of visual variety, and being able to tell a scrambler shot from AR just by the color. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
6156
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Posted - 2013.09.25 00:59:00 -
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The other option is to change the plasma fire color and muzzle flash. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
6186
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Posted - 2013.09.25 14:41:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The other option is to change the plasma fire color and muzzle flash. Perhaps purplish blue Still rather change scramblers to a more interesting color to contrast. |
Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
3
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Posted - 2013.09.27 04:53:00 -
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Bumping because I like the idea...almost all weapons seem to be a yellow-orange...which is very boring... |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2490
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:45:00 -
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This seems to have made the weekly feedback thread. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6246
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:15:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:This seems to have made the weekly feedback thread. Yeah, didn't sound that enouraging. Seems lack of the lack of color variety is on purpose to prevent a "fireworks show". Their response seemed like "maybe" to me. |
Nick nugg3t
United Universe Corp
173
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:58:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Amarr should shoot bright white, initially, though gets more yellow the more it heats up. Plasma should be red with a purple finish around the edge. Minmatar weaponry should be Orange with a very light red finish. Caldari is fine. I support this thread and your reply. good work |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6349
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Posted - 2013.10.02 19:02:00 -
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Still bothers me. Would like laser to have the same color as the shot fired n this Dust 514 concept art: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a-cG-sM-QN0/TyLeMeKS78I/AAAAAAAAB-I/ZKmstSYcnpo/s640/5787973737_b4b1144fd5_b.jpg |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
94
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Posted - 2013.10.02 20:08:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
Surprisingly enough, that should be the colour of plasma rifle / shotgun bolts, and maybe even the plasma cannon. The rifle coverts lead charges into plasma, and the emission colour of lead is a pale blue, as seen in a flame test. If the plasma cannon also uses lead, then the same thing applies.
I don't think you should be able to tell what kind of weapon is shooting just based on colour, since that's breaking immersion. That being said, I do think the laser rifle should be using an intense yellow-white beam to coincide with the 'standard' frequency crystals used by the Amarr, and the scrambler rifle beam should match. The vapour trails behind projectiles should be removed, save for railgun weapons (retained for the sniper rifle, added to the force gun and rail turrets), and the projectile weapons themselves should have bright effective tracers, either yellow, orange, or red. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6500
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Posted - 2013.10.09 06:30:00 -
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Still hate this |
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Jackof All-Trades
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
204
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Posted - 2013.10.09 10:04:00 -
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Identify weapon type: 'Shape' and sound of charge (e.g. shotgun burst, AR fuzzy line, SCR absolutely straight line, laser rifle... we all know that one) Identify weapon ammo: Colour. As stated before, frequency crystals and different charges falling into different parts of the spectrum gives that rainbow we all secretly want |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6652
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Posted - 2013.10.24 01:20:00 -
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Down with the yellowcracy! |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
543
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Posted - 2013.10.24 01:55:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The other option is to change the plasma fire color and muzzle flash. Perhaps purplish blue Still rather change scramblers to a more interesting color to contrast. I think green plasma with orange flames coming from it would be quite Gallentean. Or orange plasma with green flames, either one would be easily distinguishable. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1674
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Posted - 2013.10.24 05:45:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:The other option is to change the plasma fire color and muzzle flash. Perhaps purplish blue Still rather change scramblers to a more interesting color to contrast. I think green plasma with orange flames coming from it would be quite Gallentean. Or orange plasma with green flames, either one would be easily distinguishable.
TBH the AR shooting green plasma would make me use the weapon.
I do also want some cooler looking laser beams, but that'd probably wait until freq crystals become a thing.
Though I'm not entirely sure the scrambler weapons are laser weapons in the common sense of the term. Reading the description of the tech in the scrambler pistols description it almost sounds like it works like an electrolaser, and I frankly think it'd be absolutely ******* awesome to have gold plated guns that shoot lightning. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6870
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Posted - 2013.11.02 03:33:00 -
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I want violet LAZ0R5
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Ulysses Knapse
duna corp
554
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:29:00 -
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Gallente weapons should fire green to grey projectiles, in general. Caldari weapons should fire blue to silver projectiles, in general. Amarr weapons should fire yellow to white projectiles, in general. Minmatar weapons should fire orange to red projectiles, in general.
If they let us use multiple ammo types further down the line, I suspect those might have different colors as well. As for missiles, they'll probably be metallic for the body, maybe with some factional paint, and the rocket exhaust would also be factional colored.
Humanity is the personification of change.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6927
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Posted - 2013.11.06 17:35:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Gallente weapons should fire green to grey projectiles, in general. Caldari weapons should fire blue to silver projectiles, in general. Amarr weapons should fire yellow to white projectiles, in general. Minmatar weapons should fire orange to red projectiles, in general.
If they let us use multiple ammo types further down the line, I suspect those might have different colors as well. As for missiles, they'll probably be metallic for the body, maybe with some factional paint, and the rocket exhaust would also be factional colored. I don't see why race should determine every color. The guns are already colored according to racial colors, coloring the shots according to racial colors as well seems too much. Furthermore, loooooook, I want that on my scrambler.
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1724
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:53:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Furthermore, loooooook, I want that on my scrambler.
sploosh
I still really want lasers to be more neon and blaster weaponry to look less real-gunish.
Let's have some more bright blues and greens for blasters, and more reds and purples for lasers. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3013
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:39:00 -
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Since making an EVE account, one of the things I've really liked about the Amarr was the variety in laser colors with the various crystals. I even mounted every one of them to a destroyer for giggles to shoot a rainbow wave.
It makes for a great light show. Considering how cool it is there, I was a bit disappointing with the feedback note suggesting that more color would be "bad".
It's striking in particular for Amarr because their ships are very uniform in color, so it provides a certain contrasting color-scheme:
I liked this.
This is amusing, though not practical for a single weapon in Dust.
Woo.
The variety adds to the game I think. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6951
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Posted - 2013.11.07 18:09:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Since making an EVE account, one of the things I've really liked about the Amarr was the variety in laser colors with the various crystals. I even mounted every one of them to a destroyer for giggles to shoot a rainbow wave. It makes for a great light show. Considering how cool it is there, I was a bit disappointing with the feedback note suggesting that more color would be "bad". It's striking in particular for Amarr because their ships are very uniform in color, so it provides a certain contrasting color-scheme: I liked this.This is amusing, though not practical for a single weapon in Dust.Woo.The variety adds to the game I think. Great screenshots. Given the variety of laser colors in EVE, their anti-color anti-fun response is baffling.
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