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calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 579	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:18:00 - [1] - Quote Ok I want to spec into one. Should I go Logi or Assault?
ResistanceGTA Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden 26	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:22:00 - [2] - Quote Depends upon what you want to do? I have both, and use them, in vastly differing ways, only bringing out the Assault when the enemy is really proto-ing it up. Are you supportive or more assault? Do you run in squads or solo? A two sentence post asking a question like this is kinda useless.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3383	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:23:00 - [3] - Quote Logistics. The 5 HP/s bonus as well as the 5th low slot make by far the best armour tanker when combined with its numerous equipment slots.
GVGMODE WorstPlayersEver 33	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:29:00 - [4] - Quote According to CCP they will change the armor repair bonus that logis have, so in order to avoid any future regret just go with Gallente Assault.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 429	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:31:00 - [5] - Quote Go both, it's only about 12k sp to get each so just wait a day and you can both using the passive SP NOTE: it's 12k sp once you have basic gallente suits to level 3
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 784	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:32:00 - [6] - Quote Even a Standard Logi will benefit your team. Logi and a Supply Depot will help your Assault.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3385	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:33:00 - [7] - Quote GVGMODE wrote: According to CCP they will change the armor repair bonus that logis have, so in order to avoid any future regret just go with Gallente Assault. Source?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1556	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:33:00 - [8] - Quote I'd tell you to go logistics, but I hold out some hope that CCP can at some point give Gallente Assaults a proper bonus. If they just moved the 25% fitting reduction from the weapon to the low slots, they would actually be competitive.
621311251521 3316 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:33:00 - [9] - Quote go Caldary or Minmatar shield is op if want the fastkill and play lone wolf go shield ,**** reps tool dont need tha, u want play gallante wit out nanohive reps of reps tool logis bro lol u will die fast, dont use armor repair their are useless unless u play logis 36 hp per second.
Beyond Creation The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 20	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:38:00 - [10] - Quote 621311251521 3316 wrote: go Caldary or Minmatar shield is op if want the fastkill and play lone wolf go shield ,**** reps tool dont need tha, u want play gallante wit out nanohive reps of reps tool logis bro lol u will die fast, dont use armor repair their are useless unless u play logis 36 hp per second. \ my 10 point armor repair has saved me many times while running away from fire

621311251521 3316 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:38:00 - [11] - Quote assault gallente with proto triage nanohive is a joke ,they cost a **** load cpu and pg if the redot throw nade at ur dead anyway .
621311251521 3316 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:42:00 - [12] - Quote Beyond Creation wrote: 621311251521 3316 wrote: go Caldary or Minmatar shield is op if want the fastkill and play lone wolf go shield ,** reps tool dont need tha, u want play gallante wit out nanohive reps of reps tool logis bro lol u will die fast, dont use armor repair their are useless unless u play logis 36 hp per second. \ my 10 point armor repair has saved me many times while running away from fire awww how many time do u wait hiding waiting for a logisbro if u have no triage nano if no logis come at you if a fast minattar or caldary seek after u good luck u wish u have ** load of shield reg and shield save ur ass.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 1012	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:48:00 - [13] - Quote Assault. I think the Logi may get a few"adjustments" in the future.
DildoMcnutz Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 197	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:52:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GVGMODE wrote: According to CCP they will change the armor repair bonus that logis have, so in order to avoid any future regret just go with Gallente Assault. Source? I would like a source on this as well, I have heard many people say this and it would be good if its true, I know they are going to redo the racial bonus's to be equipment based but I have not seen any confirmation they will be removing the armour rep bonus.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3386	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:55:00 - [15] - Quote DildoMcnutz wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: GVGMODE wrote: According to CCP they will change the armor repair bonus that logis have, so in order to avoid any future regret just go with Gallente Assault. Source? I would like a source on this as well, I have heard many people say this and it would be good if its true, I know they are going to redo the racial bonus's to be equipment based but I have not seen any confirmation they will be removing the armour rep bonus. That was my understanding as well.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 581	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:56:00 - [16] - Quote I apologize about not being more specific. I already have proto Cal Logi. I like some do not feel the bonus justifies going assault or logi but just sticking to basic, also the basic Proto Gallente reminds me of a really Bad A** batman. So that is why I am asking what would be the best course to go with knowing I have a proto Cal Logi. My opinion the Logi is the best to go with due to its 5 low and 3 high with HP repair bonus would make this a better assault than the current assault build. So what is your opinion on which is the better of the three to go with?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1557	Posted - 2013.09.21 15:57:00 - [17] - Quote posts thread asking advice on decision A vs B receives advice to take both or neither
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1558	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:01:00 - [18] - Quote calvin b wrote: I apologize about not being more specific. I already have proto Cal Logi. I like some do not feel the bonus justifies going assault or logi but just sticking to basic, also the basic Proto Gallente reminds me of a really Bad A** batman. So that is why I am asking what would be the best course to go with knowing I have a proto Cal Logi. My opinion the Logi is the best to go with due to its 5 low and 3 high with HP repair bonus would make this a better assault than the current assault build. So what is your opinion on which is the better of the three to go with? Choosing the proto basic frame will save you a lot of SP, but will cost you a hell of a lot of isk. I have Minny logi fittings that are tougher, faster and cheaper than equivalent light frame fittings. Right now, there is no doubt in my mind that the current GalLogi is a better assault than the Assault. But we've seen this before. You especially.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 581	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:06:00 - [19] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: calvin b wrote: I apologize about not being more specific. I already have proto Cal Logi. I like some do not feel the bonus justifies going assault or logi but just sticking to basic, also the basic Proto Gallente reminds me of a really Bad A** batman. So that is why I am asking what would be the best course to go with knowing I have a proto Cal Logi. My opinion the Logi is the best to go with due to its 5 low and 3 high with HP repair bonus would make this a better assault than the current assault build. So what is your opinion on which is the better of the three to go with? Choosing the proto basic frame will save you a lot of SP, but will cost you a hell of a lot of isk. I have Minny logi fittings that are tougher, faster and cheaper than equivalent light frame fittings. Right now, there is no doubt in my mind that the current GalLogi is a better assault than the Assault. But we've seen this before. You especially. TY for your thoughts and yes I do know what happens when a suit works better than others.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 1012	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:15:00 - [20] - Quote calvin b wrote: I apologize about not being more specific. I already have proto Cal Logi. I like some do not feel the bonus justifies going assault or logi but just sticking to basic, also the basic Proto Gallente reminds me of a really Bad A** batman. So that is why I am asking what would be the best course to go with knowing I have a proto Cal Logi. My opinion the Logi is the best to go with due to its 5 low and 3 high with HP repair bonus would make this a better assault than the current assault build. So what is your opinion on which is the better of the three to go with? I think if your not gonna go to a Gallente proto assault, don't bother. the Gallente medium frame is not worth it imo, and the reason is you really need the fitting bonus in order to get a good proto weapon on and decent enough mods to survive. PG is gonna be your main problem with a Gallente assault, but you should be able to get around 700-1000 ehp and 6.25-12 HP per sec with max skills. some people even go max ehp with no healing besides a repair nano hive.

TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3685	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:26:00 - [21] - Quote calvin b wrote: Ok I want to spec into one. Should I go Logi or Assault? That really depends. Do you hump your K/D ratio, or do you want to contribute?
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1904	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:37:00 - [22] - Quote Are you going to use the Logistics as a Field support Logistics or another assault suit? The Gallente Logi is too slow for a assault unless you get your speed up. The Gal. Logi is the best suit for equipment based logistics work.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1279	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:39:00 - [23] - Quote calvin b wrote: I apologize about not being more specific. I already have proto Cal Logi. I like some do not feel the bonus justifies going assault or logi but just sticking to basic, also the basic Proto Gallente reminds me of a really Bad A** batman. So that is why I am asking what would be the best course to go with knowing I have a proto Cal Logi. My opinion the Logi is the best to go with due to its 5 low and 3 high with HP repair bonus would make this a better assault than the current assault build. So what is your opinion on which is the better of the three to go with? If you already have equipment skilled up to proto, I'd go with the logi. But if you are looking for a second suit I'd go with the min logi. The hacking bonus is great and overall the min logi is the most versatile suit. The calogi is the best assault suit in the game at the moment though. Speed matters not. Dual tank the calogi and throw a damage mod on. If you are short CPU just drop an equipment or two. Apparently CCP didn't want people logi'ing in that suit anyway. In your situation I'd stick with the calogi and dump SP elsewhere.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1279	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:40:00 - [24] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: calvin b wrote: Ok I want to spec into one. Should I go Logi or Assault? That really depends. Do you hump your K/D ratio, or do you want to contribute? Let the adults talk. QQ about logi suits in a different thread.
621311251521 3316 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:42:00 - [25] - Quote if no reps tool or triage nano go logisault gallente to survive.
621311251521 3316 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.09.21 16:43:00 - [26] - Quote tank armor sux unless our a gallente logis
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1906	Posted - 2013.09.21 17:09:00 - [27] - Quote Also triage nanohives are only a good idea if you are shields and need a your armor repaired because you got scratched or carry a lot of them and expect to die a lot. I work on the philosophy of playing like you're not going to die a lot so I don't do that crap (guess what I don't die a lot) Repair tools are pretty good but have been crippled because you can no longer see the health of enemies. Repair tools will always be better than triage nanohives unless you're a shield suit.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1279	Posted - 2013.09.21 17:21:00 - [28] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Also triage nanohives are only a good idea if you are shields and need a your armor repaired because you got scratched or carry a lot of them and expect to die a lot. I work on the philosophy of playing like you're not going to die a lot so I don't do that crap (guess what I don't die a lot) Repair tools are pretty good but have been crippled because you can no longer see the health of enemies. Repair tools will always be better than triage nanohives unless you're a shield suit. Agreed, for calogi I'm only running a combo allotek hive and a scanner. If I had that 50 CPU I'd run an uplink as well. Instead of running regulators I run plates. Shields don't recover as fast but I can drop two alloteks in dire situations and be full enough to finish off whomever comes around the corner with a grenade. I used to run a proto ammo hive and triage hive with a proto uplink. I could set an excellent front line for pushing points with two triage and an ammo hive near a choke point, set an uplink a little further back and it was on. The level of stupidity nerfing the CPU of a logi to prod us from being assaults is hard to comprehend. It's like taking water and soda from the designated driver at a bar. Perhaps it's nothing like that, but both are stupid things to do. I don't even refer to myself as a logi anymore, but I honestly miss it. But it makes zero economic sense to run over 70K of equipment on a glass suit in this build.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1559	Posted - 2013.09.21 19:07:00 - [29] - Quote It's not my thread, but I still feel the need to point out that the question was Gal Assault vs Gal Logi. Not equipment vs KDR, or both vs Minmatar. I feel like I'm going to have a stroke for all the stupid I see in these kinds of threads.
Patrick57 Ametat Security Amarr Empire 293	Posted - 2013.09.21 19:28:00 - [30] - Quote GVGMODE wrote: According to CCP they will change the armor repair bonus that logis have, so in order to avoid any future regret just go with Gallente Assault. When have they said they will change this? Why is there a problem with it now?

Caesar Williams Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2013.09.21 19:33:00 - [31] - Quote Gallente Assault. Logi suits in general are very risky to skill into due to unpredictable changes in the future. If you want to support though go logi.
Azura Sakura Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 483	Posted - 2013.09.21 19:40:00 - [32] - Quote calvin b wrote: I apologize about not being more specific. I already have proto Cal Logi. I like some do not feel the bonus justifies going assault or logi but just sticking to basic, also the basic Proto Gallente reminds me of a really Bad A** batman. So that is why I am asking what would be the best course to go with knowing I have a proto Cal Logi. My opinion the Logi is the best to go with due to its 5 low and 3 high with HP repair bonus would make this a better assault than the current assault build. So what is your opinion on which is the better of the three to go with? Seeing as you went Proto Cal logi... It would be best you go assault to avoid anymore disappointment :)
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1282	Posted - 2013.09.21 19:45:00 - [33] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: It's not my thread, but I still feel the need to point out that the question was Gal Assault vs Gal Logi. Not equipment vs KDR, or both vs Minmatar. I feel like I'm going to have a stroke for all the stupid I see in these kinds of threads. Well the OP is in my corp so before he dumps 2.4 mil SP into a new suit that won't perform any better than the one he's got I'll throw out my opinion. And the best advise I can give to anybody is to not chose things by using a crystal ball to anticipate nerfs. That is as stupid as it gets in my opinion.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1282	Posted - 2013.09.21 19:47:00 - [34] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: calvin b wrote: I apologize about not being more specific. I already have proto Cal Logi. I like some do not feel the bonus justifies going assault or logi but just sticking to basic, also the basic Proto Gallente reminds me of a really Bad A** batman. So that is why I am asking what would be the best course to go with knowing I have a proto Cal Logi. My opinion the Logi is the best to go with due to its 5 low and 3 high with HP repair bonus would make this a better assault than the current assault build. So what is your opinion on which is the better of the three to go with? Seeing as you went Proto Cal logi... It would be best you go assault to avoid anymore disappointment :) How can one be disappointed in the calogi? This build killed speed tanking. I questioned people dual tanking a calogi when people were QQing about it. Dual tanking a calogi is beast mode in this build. Nerfing the CPU suit gave it one purpose, beast mode assault suit.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 1014	Posted - 2013.09.21 19:50:00 - [35] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Azura Sakura wrote: calvin b wrote: I apologize about not being more specific. I already have proto Cal Logi. I like some do not feel the bonus justifies going assault or logi but just sticking to basic, also the basic Proto Gallente reminds me of a really Bad A** batman. So that is why I am asking what would be the best course to go with knowing I have a proto Cal Logi. My opinion the Logi is the best to go with due to its 5 low and 3 high with HP repair bonus would make this a better assault than the current assault build. So what is your opinion on which is the better of the three to go with? Seeing as you went Proto Cal logi... It would be best you go assault to avoid anymore disappointment :) How can one be disappointed in the calogi? This build killed speed tanking. I questioned people dual tanking a calogi when people were QQing about it. Dual tanking a calogi is beast mode in this build. Nerfing the CPU suit gave it one purpose, beast mode assault suit. You mean instead of both ;)
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 561	Posted - 2013.09.21 20:13:00 - [36] - Quote For competitive play, I would say logi offers far more versatility, being able to tank more than assault, get more fitting space and slots, more equipment slots so you can resupply, revive, and repair. With the reduced armor penalty, logis wont be as slow as a heavy. For assault you have a bit more speed and base health with only one equipment slot which would probably end up either being revive or nanohive. A sidearm although I dont use it as much. If you need to reload, find cover, if you need a weapon to fall back on, use a grenade. A sidearm is useful but not necessary. I am currently making the same choice. Heavily leaning towards logi simply because I can do more than an assault while retaining high kill ability with even more eHP and a built in complex rep. Surprised that CCP cant even balance logi/assault right. Logis want high eHP since they're vulnerable despite the fact they're meant for support/backup and shouldnt be in enemy crosshairs. Most people fit their logi to be a heavily armored/shielded assault class with more equipment and no sidearm. If CCP wants to do a better job at seperating the classes, they need to do a better job at seperating what they can or cant use.
Cosgar ParagonX 5372	Posted - 2013.09.21 20:57:00 - [37] - Quote Go assault. Cheaper to use SP/ISK wise, racial bonus wil be even better once we get hybrid sidearms, good at hybrid tanking and you get better overall stats.


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