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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.21 08:00:00 -
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Currently there is no reason to use the Gallente over Minmitar. 25% reduction on equipment does next to nothing in standard and advanced levels, and Minmitar is better in every way since it gets a high slot with a relevant passive ability. Proto Gallente only allows you 1 proto EQ instead of ADV, and the tradeoff is lower speed(which means everything in Dust), faster hacking(amazing in Skirmish and OMS, and makes Gallente look like **** in PC), and a 4th high slot which is way better than a 5th low(Dual tanking FTW).
CCP Gallente more needs help. Statwise, the Minmitar outclasses the Gallente suit, and the passive is not strong to make up for this, while Minmitar gets an amazing passive. It's fine that the Minmitar is the best Logi suit in the game, it was meant to be and the other variants have niches the Minmitar can't do. Gallente has no niche at all in standard and advanced, and the niche in Proto is just too small to matter. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1090
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Posted - 2013.09.21 09:07:00 -
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I disagree with this.
Obviously they serve different roles entirely. The Minmatar Logi is an offensive, scout-like Logi due to it's high speed, but have the downside of less health overall. The Gallente Logi is the defensive Logi that is best used as support for Sentinel(s) or other slow moving infantry.
You have to understand that they should be used in the situations that suit them the best. If you want a Logi that can support offensive actions then the Minmatar Logi is a good option. If you want a Logi that can support defensive actions then the Gallente Logi is a good option.
I like an offensive Logi better than a defensive, so of course I personally like the Minmatar better than the Gallente, but that doesn't mean that I think the Gallente Logi is worthless. The 25% reduction to CPU/PG usage on equipment is a really good bonus that means the Gallente Logi can fit pretty much full proto equipment without sacrificing other things, which means it can support Sentinels/other slow moving infantry better. The Minmatar Logi can't fit full proto equipment unless you sacrifice other things heavily. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
448
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Posted - 2013.09.21 10:22:00 -
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I love my gallente logi. Stuffing 2 complex plates, 2 complex damage mods AND 3x advanced eq on a advanced suit is not enough for you? And i havent maxed engineering and electronics YET. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3382
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Posted - 2013.09.21 10:51:00 -
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I disagree.
The Gallogi is unequaled for armoured support. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
661
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:32:00 -
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Gal logi is better for a combact logi, scanner, uplinks, RE. All those equipment require more pg/cpu and combined with the fact that armor cost less resources than shield create a well balanced logi. Min logi is better for old school logi RRR, those equipment cost less and you are able to fit more modules. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2177
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:38:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Currently there is no reason to use the Gallente over Minmitar.
Apart from RP
Personal preference
Slight stat changes
Primary Armour Tanking
Aesthetics
Racial Bonus
.....
I think I summed that up.
Combat Efficiency is one thing, don't let the desire to find a new FoTM or Top Fit ruin your game. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3382
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Posted - 2013.09.21 12:43:00 -
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shaman oga wrote: All those equipment require more pg/cpu and combined with the fact that armor cost less resources than shield create a well balanced logi.
That's not quite correct. The PG/CPU requirements are balanced differently between shields and plates - shields use more CPU, but armour uses more PG. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
661
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:16:00 -
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I have std gal logi with adv scanner, adv hives and std uplinks, complex plate and repper and it works well, if i'm not against full proto squads. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
243
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:26:00 -
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Both suits good at different things, just like everything in this game,
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:52:00 -
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GaLogi just needs better slot layouts for advanced level. Other than that, both suits are exceptionally good at different things. |
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621311251521 3316
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:12:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Currently there is no reason to use the Gallente over Minmitar. 25% reduction on equipment does next to nothing in standard and advanced levels, and Minmitar is better in every way since it gets a high slot with a relevant passive ability. Proto Gallente only allows you 1 proto EQ instead of ADV, and the tradeoff is lower speed(which means everything in Dust), faster hacking(amazing in Skirmish and OMS, and makes Gallente look like **** in PC), and a 4th high slot which is way better than a 5th low(Dual tanking FTW).
CCP Gallente more needs help. Statwise, the Minmitar outclasses the Gallente suit, and the passive is not strong to make up for this, while Minmitar gets an amazing passive. It's fine that the Minmitar is the best Logi suit in the game, it was meant to be and the other variants have niches the Minmitar can't do. Gallente has no niche at all in standard and advanced, and the niche in Proto is just too small to matter. Gallante = 6x triage proto nanohive |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
401
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:26:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I have std gal logi with adv scanner, adv hives and std uplinks, complex plate and repper and it works well, if i'm not against full proto squads.
The problem here is that the Minmitar is doing this already at the advanced level, possibly even better because it gets an extra High slot more speed and a passive ability. |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
401
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Currently there is no reason to use the Gallente over Minmitar. Apart from RP Personal preference Slight stat changes Primary Armour Tanking Aesthetics Racial Bonus ..... I think I summed that up. Combat Efficiency is one thing, don't let the desire to find a new FoTM or Top Fit ruin your game.
This isn't about Gallante being a top fit, this is about Gallente not being flat-out outclassed by Minmitar in the standard and advanced level. I'm not saying you "can't" do your job, but Minmitar is doing it better. |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
401
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:36:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:I love my gallente logi. Stuffing 2 complex plates, 2 complex damage mods AND 3x advanced eq on a advanced suit is not enough for you? And i havent maxed engineering and electronics YET.
If you're using more than 1 damage mod on a Logi, you're doing something wrong, and even that damage mod isn't needed. Minmitar can already do this as well, they get a 3rd high and ADV gear don't suck up enough PG/CPU for the passive 25% reduction to mean much on the advanced level. I have doubts you're using use Complex Armor plates too, the PG will not allow it.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
667
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:44:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:I love my gallente logi. Stuffing 2 complex plates, 2 complex damage mods AND 3x advanced eq on a advanced suit is not enough for you? And i havent maxed engineering and electronics YET. If you're using more than 1 damage mod on a Logi, you're doing something wrong, and even that damage mod isn't needed. Minmitar can already do this as well, they get a 3rd high and ADV gear don't suck up enough PG/CPU for the passive 25% reduction to mean much on the advanced level. I have doubts you're using use Complex Armor plates too, the PG will not allow it. What would you fit on a ADV gal logi in high slot if not 2 damage mod? Shield Dmods are the only way for gal logi, precision enhacers aren't very useful if you have a scanner. |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
130
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:58:00 -
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LOL, you're nuts, I can give myself 1000 armor and fill out all of the equipment slots with at least advanced gear, if you want to actually run logistics, and by that I mean bringing a crapload of equipment to the field to support your team and still have the defense to stay alive while you do it, nothing better than gallente. |
Patrick57
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
293
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Posted - 2013.09.21 19:54:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:(Dual tanking FTW). IMO the only real dual tanker is the Cal Logi/Assault. In order to be a "Dual tanker" in this game is to have more high slots then low slots, and that is especially the case now that Armor Plates have been buffed.
And BTW...Amarr Logi FTW! |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1198
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:24:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Currently there is no reason to use the Gallente over Minmitar. 25% reduction on equipment does next to nothing in standard and advanced levels, and Minmitar is better in every way since it gets a high slot with a relevant passive ability. Proto Gallente only allows you 1 proto EQ instead of ADV, and the tradeoff is lower speed(which means everything in Dust), faster hacking(amazing in Skirmish and OMS, and makes Gallente look like **** in PC), and a 4th high slot which is way better than a 5th low(Dual tanking FTW).
CCP Gallente more needs help. Statwise, the Minmitar outclasses the Gallente suit, and the passive is not strong to make up for this, while Minmitar gets an amazing passive. It's fine that the Minmitar is the best Logi suit in the game, it was meant to be and the other variants have niches the Minmitar can't do. Gallente has no niche at all in standard and advanced, and the niche in Proto is just too small to matter.
Thats weird, i get destroyed pretty often by Gallante Logis-Assaults.
Minmatar has more utilities,but know this, the armor tanking in the gallante logi makes it an excellent assault 1.02. Yeah mimatar is a better logi, but logi gallante is a better assault....
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2194
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Currently there is no reason to use the Gallente over Minmitar. 25% reduction on equipment does next to nothing in standard and advanced levels, and Minmitar is better in every way since it gets a high slot with a relevant passive ability. Proto Gallente only allows you 1 proto EQ instead of ADV, and the tradeoff is lower speed(which means everything in Dust), faster hacking(amazing in Skirmish and OMS, and makes Gallente look like **** in PC), and a 4th high slot which is way better than a 5th low(Dual tanking FTW).
CCP Gallente more needs help. Statwise, the Minmitar outclasses the Gallente suit, and the passive is not strong to make up for this, while Minmitar gets an amazing passive. It's fine that the Minmitar is the best Logi suit in the game, it was meant to be and the other variants have niches the Minmitar can't do. Gallente has no niche at all in standard and advanced, and the niche in Proto is just too small to matter. Thats weird, i get destroyed pretty often by Gallante Logis-Assaults. Minmatar has more utilities,but know this, the armor tanking in the gallante logi makes it an excellent assault 1.02. Yeah mimatar is a better logi, but logi gallante is a better assault.... Same |
lithkul devant
Legions of Infinite Dominion
71
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:22:00 -
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The standard Gallente suit tier 1 absolutely sucks and needs change it has 0 high slots, might be the worst suit in the entire game, it is the absolute worst of all the logi suits. The advanced level of Gallente suit is much better then that, however, it still seems to be lacking, when comparing slots, armor and shields, maybe this changes with the proto suit, but the first 2 tiers of Gallente are not the best and have issues. |
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1201
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:25:00 -
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lithkul devant wrote:The standard Gallente suit tier 1 absolutely sucks and needs change it has 0 high slots, might be the worst suit in the entire game, it is the absolute worst of all the logi suits. The advanced level of Gallente suit is much better then that, however, it still seems to be lacking, when comparing slots, armor and shields, maybe this changes with the proto suit, but the first 2 tiers of Gallente are not the best and have issues.
All suits have issues. GAL logis are fine. |
Lightning Bolt2
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
244
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:47:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Currently there is no reason to use the Gallente over Minmitar. 25% reduction on equipment does next to nothing in standard and advanced levels, and Minmitar is better in every way since it gets a high slot with a relevant passive ability. Proto Gallente only allows you 1 proto EQ instead of ADV, and the tradeoff is lower speed(which means everything in Dust), faster hacking(amazing in Skirmish and OMS, and makes Gallente look like **** in PC), and a 4th high slot which is way better than a 5th low(Dual tanking FTW).
CCP Gallente more needs help. Statwise, the Minmitar outclasses the Gallente suit, and the passive is not strong to make up for this, while Minmitar gets an amazing passive. It's fine that the Minmitar is the best Logi suit in the game, it was meant to be and the other variants have niches the Minmitar can't do. Gallente has no niche at all in standard and advanced, and the niche in Proto is just too small to matter.
lol? I guess just an assault logi request. |
lithkul devant
Legions of Infinite Dominion
73
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Posted - 2013.09.22 01:53:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:lithkul devant wrote:The standard Gallente suit tier 1 absolutely sucks and needs change it has 0 high slots, might be the worst suit in the entire game, it is the absolute worst of all the logi suits. The advanced level of Gallente suit is much better then that, however, it still seems to be lacking, when comparing slots, armor and shields, maybe this changes with the proto suit, but the first 2 tiers of Gallente are not the best and have issues. All suits have issues. GAL logis are fine.
Did you even bother to open up the tier 1 gallente logi suit and compare it to others, I think not. They are not fine and need at least 1 high slot, all other tier 1 suits have at least 1 high if not two, and the same number of low slots, with similar amount of equipment slots. |
Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
96
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Posted - 2013.09.22 05:46:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:I disagree with this.
Obviously they serve different roles entirely. The Minmatar Logi is an offensive, scout-like Logi due to it's high speed, but have the downside of less health overall. The Gallente Logi is the defensive Logi that is best used as support for Sentinel(s) or other slow moving infantry.
You have to understand that they should be used in the situations that suit them the best. If you want a Logi that can support offensive actions then the Minmatar Logi is a good option. If you want a Logi that can support defensive actions then the Gallente Logi is a good option.
I like an offensive Logi better than a defensive, so of course I personally like the Minmatar better than the Gallente, but that doesn't mean that I think the Gallente Logi is worthless. The 25% reduction to CPU/PG usage on equipment is a really good bonus that means the Gallente Logi can fit pretty much full proto equipment without sacrificing other things, which means it can support Sentinels/other slow moving infantry better. The Minmatar Logi can't fit full proto equipment unless you sacrifice other things heavily.
As a gallante Logi I can't agree more. I can fitt proto reper ,proto scanner, proto injector, proto hives, and al complex stuff in my low and almost al complex on high slots. And a freedom to say hallo to you if you get passed my squad.
To be honest the gallante is a powerhouse as pure logi, trade of is that you ned a god squad to Logi.
The standard gallante logi is just crap , but it gets better. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
452
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Posted - 2013.09.22 09:31:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:I love my gallente logi. Stuffing 2 complex plates, 2 complex damage mods AND 3x advanced eq on a advanced suit is not enough for you? And i havent maxed engineering and electronics YET. If you're using more than 1 damage mod on a Logi, you're doing something wrong, and even that damage mod isn't needed. Minmitar can already do this as well, they get a 3rd high and ADV gear don't suck up enough PG/CPU for the passive 25% reduction to mean much on the advanced level. I have doubts you're using use Complex Armor plates too, the PG will not allow it.
Oh i see, you are one of those who revive teammates right in front of enemy assaults. Sorry if i try to kill the enemies before reviving and repping my teammates. And sorry if i can have 20% more damage AND 600+ hp toghether with advanced equipement. And i am so sad that i can get 2000+ wp in a game with a positive K/D thx to drops uplinks, nanohives, revives AND kills. You must be bad if you need shields on any gallente suit. |
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