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ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:19:00 -
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Am I crazy, or do these first three shots look like they come out in under a second?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QOTmiA0p-s |
Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
199
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:21:00 -
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WHo ever is recording is lagging pretty bad. that's what you see. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Cult of War
249
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:22:00 -
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Your crazy, judging from the count down timer on dust the duration between the fire of the first shot and the 3rd is 3 seconds. |
Fire9er Greko
Axis of Chaos
74
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:23:00 -
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I just think he's japanese and better than us. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
520
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:24:00 -
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It's ******** when the MD fires quickly. such a derp weapon. there's something not right about that weapon, unbalanced imo. |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
77
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:25:00 -
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I was recording, and I began recording because of how fast this dude was firing.
I wish I was recording sound, you could hear how fast it was.
There were 4 shots in total, 3 fast, the third one is hard to see because it is head on and behind my ADS, the fourth he fired later than the other 3 |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
77
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:42:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:WHo ever is recording is lagging pretty bad. that's what you see.
This is possible. Never seen lag that cause a mass driver to appear to fire multiple shots a second. Again, I wish you could hear it |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
77
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:44:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Your crazy, judging from the count down timer on dust the duration between the fire of the first shot and the 3rd is 3 seconds.
The first shot is fired just before 11:35, all three of the first 3 were fired before 11:34, the last shot, the 4th was fired at 11:33. Watch the smoke trails |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
974
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Posted - 2013.09.20 06:40:00 -
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what we have here is what happens when you bug the fireing animation.
i imagine it takes a specialised macro to recreate this |
621311251521 3316
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:13:00 -
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dia farron.......... laser rifle wut |
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621311251521 3316
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:14:00 -
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Fire9er Greko wrote:I just think he's japanese and better than us.
no jap dont have lag when they play merica server but we do lol |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
77
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:15:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:what we have here is what happens when you bug the fireing animation.
i imagine it takes a specialised macro to recreate this
To get a better idea of how fast they are firing, watch the numbers on my health decrease, not the health bar, but the numbers. You can see 3 distinctive drops in about a second. |
621311251521 3316
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:20:00 -
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jap can ''switch lag'' they pollute ping they dont have lag when they play america server but it mess the frame of north American player. |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
77
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:33:00 -
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621311251521 3316 wrote:jap can ''switch lag'' they pollute ping they dont have lag when they play america server but it mess the frame of north American player.
I don't think that was lag switching, his clone wasn't jumping around. If the recording showed him shoot me from one position, then appears 3 meters to the left shooting I'd agree. This was just fast MD. I was hearing it all game, it kinda stood out. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
975
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:02:00 -
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i have a suspicion of how i think hes doing it, and if im right theres already a fix in 1.5 for it.
there are a few possabilitys but all would require a programable controller / KB/M
the first is overloading the fireing animation may clip it back to it starting position creating a rapid fire, this would be done with fiddling with an full auto shooting timer, with some sort of other variable thrown in such as a piece of the melee glitch.
this is definatly the work of a clever macro though.
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
350
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:07:00 -
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621311251521 3316 wrote:jap can ''switch lag'' they pollute ping they dont have lag when they play america server but it mess the frame of north American player.
Are you saying that a specific country has a monopoly on lag switching? Btw, need we go over again on how you can't lag switch unless you're the host, a thing that doesn't exist in Dust 514?
Oh, and drop the derogatory terms.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1657
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:11:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:621311251521 3316 wrote:jap can ''switch lag'' they pollute ping they dont have lag when they play america server but it mess the frame of north American player. Are you saying that a specific country has a monopoly on lag switching? Btw, need we go over again on how you can't lag switch unless you're the host, a thing that doesn't exist in Dust 514? Oh, and drop the derogatory terms.
yes, those darn japs got it on lock down.
btw to the OP 3 shots 3 seconds. |
Minako Nakajima
Vortex State Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:18:00 -
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Hmm... maybe a "switch cancel"?
you know... ala Counter-Strike beta AWP stuff... |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
975
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:38:00 -
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a total of 2 seconds elapses between shot 1 and shot 4
with shots 1 to 3 occuring in a single second.
i based this off both the youtube video timer and the in game timer shown.
unfortunatly theres not enough footage to properly identify what hes doing to create this effect, or weather hes able to repeat this on purpose.
assuming he can do it on purpose it looks like its a push and hold solution, where he can chose to single fire or rapid fire, this is based off of shots 4 and 5 having the proper rate of fire.
submit this to CCP so they can test with a modded controller/KBM and try to recreate it |
Mortedeamor
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
276
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:46:00 -
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you lagged thats the difference if you watch the light burst from the md the fire rate is normal |
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
975
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:51:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:you lagged thats the difference if you watch the light burst from the md the fire rate is normal
its not lag ;) |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
586
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:14:00 -
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Its lag on his side, its the original desynch server error. You get from time to time, pull trigger ammo count goes down but shot appears .5 secs later. If you only lag for a short while then shots stackvand realease very quickly.
it just happened to go his way, he probablymshotmthe first 2 while you weren't looking at him! |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
234
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:19:00 -
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I recognise the name, its not lag, he uses an assault MD and can fire that thing as fast as an assault ScR... I even mailed him, but I guess his English isn't very good.
He's modding for sure, whether it be programmable mouse/keyboard or just a modded controller.
Its pretty awesome to see, by clearly bullshit for the game. |
Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
975
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:30:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:I recognise the name, its not lag, he uses an assault MD and can fire that thing as fast as an assault ScR... I even mailed him, but I guess his English isn't very good.
He's modding for sure, whether it be programmable mouse/keyboard or just a modded controller.
Its pretty awesome to see, by clearly bullshit for the game.
in the vid its an EXO-5, i can only imagine the ROF he can pull out of an assault MD |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
234
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:34:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:in the vid its an EXO-5, i can only imagine the ROF he can pull out of an assault MD
I'm sure the same "hack" works on many weapons he's spec'd into.
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
The Umbra Combine
975
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:39:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:in the vid its an EXO-5, i can only imagine the ROF he can pull out of an assault MD I'm sure the same "hack" works on many weapons he's spec'd into.
the MD is the only applicable weapon for this particular party trick.
hitscan weapons work on different princaples
flaylock doesnt have a ROF cap
charge weapons (forge,PC) wont fire properly but may be able to be glitched out in other ways (possably bypassing the charge, although i havnt seen this and dont know if its possable)
it works with the MD becuase it spawns a projectile when it shoots and doesnt require charging.
this feels like an animation clipping related glitch |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1545
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Posted - 2013.09.20 12:59:00 -
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I had a glitch once, in which my SMG was firing like a mass driver. It had the same reload animation, the same firing sound, and the same recoil. It was firing at the speed of the SMG, but sadly it was still firing SMG rounds so I couldn't exploit it :(
Perhaps this fellow picked up a similar glitch, only an exploitable version. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1545
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:01:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Its lag on his side, its the original desynch server error. You get from time to time, pull trigger ammo count goes down but shot appears .5 secs later. If you only lag for a short while then shots stackvand realease very quickly.
it just happened to go his way, he probablymshotmthe first 2 while you weren't looking at him!
You using a touchscreen? |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
591
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:30:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Its lag on his side, its the original desynch server error. You get from time to time, pull trigger ammo count goes down but shot appears .5 secs later. If you only lag for a short while then shots stackvand realease very quickly.
it just happened to go his way, he probablymshotmthe first 2 while you weren't looking at him! You using a touchscreen?
Yeah its a nuisance! |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
77
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:31:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Its lag on his side, its the original desynch server error. You get from time to time, pull trigger ammo count goes down but shot appears .5 secs later. If you only lag for a short while then shots stackvand realease very quickly.
it just happened to go his way, he probablymshotmthe first 2 while you weren't looking at him!
If what you are saying is true, wouldn't I only expect to see and hear this only if he was shooting me?
Keep in mind that this was happening all game. i would post more video, but I wasn't recording sound, and this was the only time I faced off on him when I was recording.
The sound was unmistakably unusual, usually in groups of four (thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk,) really fast. When I first heard it my first thought was "there is no way that is one mass driver", but it was consistent in it's rhythm, and from a consistent sound source. So I thought either there were two players with MDs standing in very close proximity, and harmoniously firing together, or this is a glitch. I started recording and looking for him after I got killed by him the first time. I spent the rest of the game looking for him to cap that video.
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