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grunt party
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:20:00 -
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ive even mailed gunners when they hop out then sit on my tank and jump in as soon as i move(all tankers know the precaution of move away from blues before trying to recall) but they ignore it coz they are ******** normally i never have to mail the ones with more than 2 brain cells because they figure i want to recall it
i did come up with a solution(hope CCP will introduce) if you call a vehicle you can recall even if there is a blue dot in it(paralyses the vehicle when recalling) so drivers never have to put up with stolen rides |
Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
215
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:25:00 -
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The dude's probably some 12-year-old kid who's completely new to the game and doesn't even look at the forums. I definitely sympathize with your troubles, but results? Not forthcoming. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1651
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:29:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:grunt party wrote:i once called in a blaster tank got pinged by 2 rail tanks went back to swap to a rail to combat them (they were redline),but i had a blue so i sat in my redline safe until they got out. they never did so i AFKed the whole match This is exactly what prompted me to make this thread. This exact same scenario. same thing happens to me all the time but i got hatemail for not using my tank when it was clear i wasn't going to make it close enough to the rail tanks to even shoot them.
blue dots... worse enemy ever and that's is why pilots hate gunners. annoying and very costly. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
807
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:41:00 -
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On one of the new maps (the one with the bridge) I was making my way from B to C to support my Squad there. I was in my fatsuit mind you. A tank for no reason whatsoever decided to leave C just as I was getting there. He had more than 3/4 shield and full armor. He turned hard out of nowhere (there was no AVers anywhere), catching me in front of his tank. He proceeded to drag me all the way to D.
I noticed there was a guy hacking the CRU, when I got there, so I figured I may as well deal with it. I killed the guy, and began Hacking the CRU back. The tanker drives off, leaving me alone, then a Proto Heavy spawns in behind me with a Boundless. I'm sure you can guess how that ended...
True story. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
92
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:49:00 -
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I understand the gunner scenario, and i'm all for locks/eject buttons, whichever would be the best fit for Dust. The Supply Depot and tank pushing infantry issue are the problems foot soldiers have with tanks, and I wouldn't be surprised if a handful of gunner issues were disgruntled infantry trying to get revenge on tanks in general.
If locks were introduced and the gunner issue solved, tanks are still taking out Depots and pushing infantry. I don't want your tank, if your killing my Depots and pushing me around the map you are a liability to me as a foot soldier, and the sooner the reds kill you off, the better it is for me.
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:53:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:I hate gunners in everyway. I thought it was impossible to hate my own squad/corp mate gunner. But he decided to last second kill any installation I found...
Normally I leave it to the tank driver -
But having said that you do realise tanks do this to infantry all the time - never mind how you go and gain hundreds of warpoints doing this, basically (at start of match) at no risk.
You're reaping a little of what you sow. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1651
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:58:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:I understand the gunner scenario, and i'm all for locks/eject buttons, whichever would be the best fit for Dust. The Supply Depot and tank pushing infantry issue are the problems foot soldiers have with tanks, and I wouldn't be surprised if a handful of gunner issues were disgruntled infantry trying to get revenge on tanks in general.
If locks were introduced and the gunner issue solved, tanks are still taking out Depots and pushing infantry. I don't want your tank, if your killing my Depots and pushing me around the map you are a liability to me as a foot soldier, and the sooner the reds kill you off, the better it is for me.
its the other way round, been having troll berry jump into my tank since closed beta. its not new by any means. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
808
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:04:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:I understand the gunner scenario, and i'm all for locks/eject buttons, whichever would be the best fit for Dust. The Supply Depot and tank pushing infantry issue are the problems foot soldiers have with tanks, and I wouldn't be surprised if a handful of gunner issues were disgruntled infantry trying to get revenge on tanks in general.
If locks were introduced and the gunner issue solved, tanks are still taking out Depots and pushing infantry. I don't want your tank, if your killing my Depots and pushing me around the map you are a liability to me as a foot soldier, and the sooner the reds kill you off, the better it is for me.
its the other way round, been having troll berry jump into my tank since closed beta. its not new by any means. If I ever do jump in a random tank, it is just to get closer to an objective. If he happens to fire at an installation on the way, I will help take it out. I won't fire unless he does.
If I see he is headed for the redline, I bail quickly.
Trolling from both sides is very counterproductive to the nature of the game. |
castba
Penguin's March
127
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:05:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL @ "not to switch sides so you can see better". I do agree that their should be some kind of eject button for those instances with a re-entry wait time of 10 seconds, if that's possible.
I always get the feeling someone is just trying to steal my ish when we both are just sitting there admiring the view... Agree, but the ejector seats should work like proper ejector seats sending the blue flying into the air. Tell me you wouldn't want to see that! |
Blaze Ashra
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:14:00 -
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AAGMUNDR wrote:Tiny Pineapple wrote:AAGMUNDR wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:AAGMUNDR wrote:I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. Any tank with 740 shield and 1.3k armor should immediately register in your mind as a coffin. Good point. My proto scout fit has 180 ehp. So a coffin is a little better than running around in a tissue diaper. Jeez, level up your dropsuit shield and armor upgrades to get a bit more health. My militia scout suit has 204 ehp and no shield extenders or armor plates. But why do that when I can just sit pretty in some dudes proto tank?
Proto tank? We don't even have proto modules except for armor hardeners... |
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Benjamin Ciscko
S.e.V.e.N.
39
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:17:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:While I understand the pain of idiots being in your vehicle while wishing to recall, could tankers try not to purposely run into blue LAVs...
Sorry, I had to go back behind the redline to change suits cause someone blew up my supply depots, could you choose to swerve not into me? I love more vehicles to blue tanks running right into me than enemy fire. I can't count the number of stupid blueberry LAVS that were going a couple miles past the speed limit when they rounded a corner into my tank. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1302
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:21:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Void Echo wrote:the ratio of ******** infantry to normal infantry is 100000000000000000/1 Lol, while your numbers are exaggerated (just a bit) I will give you there are way more ****** infantry than there are ****** tankers, but only cause there is way more infantry than tankers. So I offer a compromise. Over the next week or so I will do my best to help blue tanks, so long as they are at least attempting to be productive and letting me get off the bumper if they hit me (it happens, I know, just let me get off). All I ask is that you blue tanks at least look at who all is on your team, and if it looks like you have a strong squad or two, give them a chance to work on some of the supply depots. Those things can be crucial. And if you hit someone, let them get off your bumper (unless you got a bunch of swarms launched and heading your way, in that case I do understand. It's getting pushed forward as tanks are attacking that is really irking foot soldiers). Unfortunately I can only speak for myself on this compromise. Hopefully any infantry players reading this thread will follow suit. We can start there and see what happens. If we can get some trust built back up between tanks and foots and get us all working together, we could do some amazing stuff. if there were more ppl like you who would actually help the tank, then yeah we would trust you guys with the supply depots and we would support our teams in confidence that our tank crews are helping us help the team. But, almost no one is willing to do this, they would rather sit in our tanks and refuse to leave, they are doing the oppisite of being usefull, they are cuasing us to loose our tank or forcing us to keep our rail out when all the enemys decided to move to the city. Exmaples of these ppl:
AAGMUNDR wrote:I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. and
Doyle Reese wrote:Oh :(. I thought we were gonna make out on a cliff, isn't that how those movies go?
So no, screw you guys. We will NOT work with you guys under ANY circumstances cuz you guys are a canser to us, our own team mates. Our team is actively trying to get us killed! If there were more ppl like you we could all benifit but its liteerally you vs everyone else. You are litterally the single, lonesome and most unique gunner that ive ever heard about wanting to help tanks in a way that it would be mutually benifiscial. Ever. This is the worst community ive ever been apart of |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
287
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:27:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be. How do you think us Dropship pilots feel? :(
I hate it when I have no more Myrons or Vipers left so I have to use an Eryx, sometimes a Python, and when I want to recall my expensive deathtrap, they just sit there shooting at the MCC like they are helping |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1655
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:16:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:ladwar wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:I understand the gunner scenario, and i'm all for locks/eject buttons, whichever would be the best fit for Dust. The Supply Depot and tank pushing infantry issue are the problems foot soldiers have with tanks, and I wouldn't be surprised if a handful of gunner issues were disgruntled infantry trying to get revenge on tanks in general.
If locks were introduced and the gunner issue solved, tanks are still taking out Depots and pushing infantry. I don't want your tank, if your killing my Depots and pushing me around the map you are a liability to me as a foot soldier, and the sooner the reds kill you off, the better it is for me.
its the other way round, been having troll berry jump into my tank since closed beta. its not new by any means. If I ever do jump in a random tank, it is just to get closer to an objective. If he happens to fire at an installation on the way, I will help take it out. I won't fire unless he does. If I see he is headed for the redline, I bail quickly. Trolling from both sides is very counterproductive to the nature of the game. trolling is the nature of new eden thou and always has been in dust. trolling is counterproductive to normal FPS... need i say more? |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
101
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:28:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote: **Please refer to post #42**
Regardless of my quips, I totally understand where you drivers are coming from, be it HAVs or Derps. You guys are taking a massive monetary risk every time you call in your ride. I can't really get down on any tanker for saying anything with any attitude because you guys do get royally screwed a lot. Also, while I do feel for you, I want us to work together more for the reason it makes my life easier ;-).
I admire and envy tankers in a way. You guys are a community within a community. Your like a Brotherhood. If 2 experienced tankers who don't know each other meet, from what I've seen they almost always hit it off and start jabbering about tank nonsense that flies right over my head. A good tanker CAN win a battle all by his/her self, though not necessarily directly. The new bridge Ambush map is a great example of this.
Unfortunately I am a pure Assault. Not really sure if we are considered to have our own "community", but if we do it's nothing like what you tankers have. Add that to the fact that I have only 2 months under my belt and absolutely zero clout within the community and you can plainly see there is really nothing I or most foot soldiers could do to turn around the infantry communities behavior at large. I would love to help, but once again the burden and risk falls on the shoulders of tankers. I would recommend maybe a thread for tankers to acknowledge to each other (not the Dust community at large) who is a trustworthy foot soldier and who is not. This would be for no one but yourselves and I would recommend you keep it out of sight from most to avoid inevitable trolling.
I hate that it has come to this, but to be brutally honest, infantry needs you guys waaaaaay less than you need them (for the most part, but not always). I am not at all saying suck it up and deal with it, i'm saying the foot soldier community in general is not going to stop actin' a fool, so y'all gotta deal with the problems internally. And unfortunately if things just stay as they are, you guys are getting hurt way more than us.
1 Tank + 1 LLAV + 1-4 Foots = iddqd |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1307
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:35:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Exmaple Core wrote: **Please refer to post #42** Regardless of my quips, I totally understand where you drivers are coming from, be it HAVs or Derps. You guys are taking a massive monetary risk every time you call in your ride. I can't really get down on any tanker for saying anything with any attitude because you guys do get royally screwed a lot. Also, while I do feel for you, I want us to work together more for the reason it makes my life easier ;-). I admire and envy tankers in a way. You guys are a community within a community. Your like a Brotherhood. If 2 experienced tankers who don't know each other meet, from what I've seen they almost always hit it off and start jabbering about tank nonsense that flies right over my head. A good tanker CAN win a battle all by his/her self, though not necessarily directly. The new bridge Ambush map is a great example of this. Unfortunately I am a pure Assault. Not really sure if we are considered to have our own "community", but if we do it's nothing like what you tankers have. Add that to the fact that I have only 2 months under my belt and absolutely zero clout within the community and you can plainly see there is really nothing I or most foot soldiers could do to turn around the infantry communities behavior at large. I would love to help, but once again the burden and risk falls on the shoulders of tankers. I would recommend maybe a thread for tankers to acknowledge to each other (not the Dust community at large) who is a trustworthy foot soldier and who is not. This would be for no one but yourselves and I would recommend you keep it out of sight from most to avoid inevitable trolling. I hate that it has come to this, but to be brutally honest, infantry needs you guys waaaaaay less than you need them (for the most part, but not always). I am not at all saying suck it up and deal with it, i'm saying the foot soldier community in general is not going to stop actin' a fool, so y'all gotta deal with the problems internally. And unfortunately if things just stay as they are, you guys are getting hurt way more than us. 1 Tank + 1 LLAV + 1-4 Foots = iddqd Yeah, were not needed. It just makes the game more tactical and forces infaintry to pull out AV. Tho tanks do pindown objectives, so they have a purpose. But yeah, i doubt the relationship between tankers and infaintry will never be mended, no matter how hard ppl try. Why should they care anyways, were not needed right? |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
104
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:07:00 -
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Oh y'all are needed, for sure. I think part of the issue is infantry can more or less get by for the most part without tanks, so they just do, not realizing what they could have. I've had the treat of running with a tank and LLAV pairing and I was damn near invincible, and so was the tank and LLAV. It sucks I can only get that by squading up, and even then it isn't super common. With even more vehicles supposedly coming, i'm worried pubs are going to become a cluster **** of aircraft, ground vehicles, and infantry zooming around crashing into each other, running each other over, stealing vehicles, and letting each other die.
Or
If we could all learn to love each other (in a strictly sexual way), we could have a bad ass Warfare Simulator. But the hate seems to run deep on both sides, hopefully that can be changed.
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grunt party
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
39
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Posted - 2013.09.21 01:36:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:
I admire and envy tankers in a way. You guys are a community within a community. Your like a Brotherhood. If 2 experienced tankers who don't know each other meet, from what I've seen they almost always hit it off and start jabbering about tank nonsense that flies right over my head. A good tanker CAN win a battle all by his/her self, though not necessarily directly. The new bridge Ambush map is a great example of this.
a proof of this community there was 1 tanker who i ran into often and we enjoyed playing together so we made a pact and never engaged each other because we knew what trouble we would cause each other and it made a funer game for us both (bring on the hate) |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
398
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Posted - 2013.09.21 01:38:00 -
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That's why I stopped picking up Lone Blues in my dropship. Call it and immediately take off, because they will sit in the dropship and prevent you from recalling. |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2013.09.21 01:39:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be. dont use tanks at all but I can totally 110% agree with you GTFO blueberry
LOL char char you so sneaky. |
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grunt party
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
39
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Posted - 2013.09.21 01:40:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:That's why I stopped picking up Lone Blues in my dropship. Call it and immediately take off, because they will sit in the dropship and prevent you from recalling. and they shoot your drop ship putting you off or tipping you in the proses |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3207
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Posted - 2013.09.21 01:47:00 -
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sixteensixty4 wrote:This is the only time i send rage mail but it fecking annoying, more so in a rail tank, and when they pinging missiles at the floor trip to the redline and if they dont get out, suicide for all, even if they do get out, now you can drag them over the redline and make them die They shoot at everything but the enemy... |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
92
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Posted - 2013.09.21 02:43:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:That's why I stopped picking up Lone Blues in my dropship. Call it and immediately take off, because they will sit in the dropship and prevent you from recalling. What, even when you land?
Pfft, usually I get bored and jump out at some point near an objective, let alone staying in a deadship (sorry, dropship!) when it's a sitting duck on the ground...
Wow, stories like these make me feel like I'm some kinda team player or something! |
wayrow1
GRIM MARCH
16
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Posted - 2013.09.21 02:54:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be. hehe lol |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
190
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:20:00 -
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AAGMUNDR wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:AAGMUNDR wrote:I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. Any tank with 740 shield and 1.3k armor should immediately register in your mind as a coffin. Good point. My proto scout fit has 180 ehp. So a coffin is a little better than running around in a tissue diaper.
Dude why the low EHP my got 310
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Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
48
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:58:00 -
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so long as the blue berry fires my cycles at anything red and has a swarm or forge iam happy. or if they shoot the guns constantly. keeps enemys away thinking they've been spotted |
grunt party
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
40
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Posted - 2013.09.22 15:15:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:so long as the blue berry fires my cycles at anything red and has a swarm or forge iam happy. or if they shoot the guns constantly. keeps enemys away thinking they've been spotted but if they keep away how do u kill em |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1014
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Posted - 2013.09.22 15:17:00 -
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Spammers are the worst kind of passengers . I have a troll alt and if I see any tanker I know I get I and spam like my life depends on it . And whenntey stop in the red line I just mash the triangle button to discourage a recall lol |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1014
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Posted - 2013.09.22 15:18:00 -
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Not really . But its what seemd to happen every time I pockbup a blue dot. |
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