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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3585
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:55:00 -
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When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be. |
ResistanceGTA
Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
18
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Posted - 2013.09.19 17:04:00 -
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While I understand the pain of idiots being in your vehicle while wishing to recall, could tankers try not to purposely run into blue LAVs...
Sorry, I had to go back behind the redline to change suits cause someone blew up my supply depots, could you choose to swerve not into me? I love more vehicles to blue tanks running right into me than enemy fire. |
sixteensixty4
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
89
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Posted - 2013.09.19 17:12:00 -
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This is the only time i send rage mail but it fecking annoying, more so in a rail tank, and when they pinging missiles at the floor
trip to the redline and if they dont get out, suicide for all, even if they do get out, now you can drag them over the redline and make them die |
AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
183
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Posted - 2013.09.19 17:23:00 -
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I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3591
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Posted - 2013.09.19 17:39:00 -
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AAGMUNDR wrote:I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. Any tank with 740 shield and 1.3k armor should immediately register in your mind as a coffin. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
306
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Posted - 2013.09.19 17:42:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be. dont use tanks at all but I can totally 110% agree with you
GTFO blueberry |
AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
184
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Posted - 2013.09.19 17:47:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:AAGMUNDR wrote:I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. Any tank with 740 shield and 1.3k armor should immediately register in your mind as a coffin.
Good point. My proto scout fit has 180 ehp. So a coffin is a little better than running around in a tissue diaper. |
Nick nugg3t
United Universe Corp
168
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Posted - 2013.09.19 17:54:00 -
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hahahahahahaha XD hahahahaha
I will see myself out now |
Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
433
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:02:00 -
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Oh :(. I thought we were gonna make out on a cliff, isn't that how those movies go? |
Tiny Pineapple
Army of 420's Lokun Listamenn
5
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:17:00 -
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AAGMUNDR wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:AAGMUNDR wrote:I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. Any tank with 740 shield and 1.3k armor should immediately register in your mind as a coffin. Good point. My proto scout fit has 180 ehp. So a coffin is a little better than running around in a tissue diaper.
Jeez, level up your dropsuit shield and armor upgrades to get a bit more health. My militia scout suit has 204 ehp and no shield extenders or armor plates. |
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
762
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:34:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be. I think they switch back and forth real fast thinking they'll somehow get into the driver's seat. |
AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
186
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:34:00 -
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Tiny Pineapple wrote:AAGMUNDR wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:AAGMUNDR wrote:I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. Any tank with 740 shield and 1.3k armor should immediately register in your mind as a coffin. Good point. My proto scout fit has 180 ehp. So a coffin is a little better than running around in a tissue diaper. Jeez, level up your dropsuit shield and armor upgrades to get a bit more health. My militia scout suit has 204 ehp and no shield extenders or armor plates.
But why do that when I can just sit pretty in some dudes proto tank? |
richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
305
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:39:00 -
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the best way to get rid of a gunner is to pay a squad member 50k to buy a drop ship and land it adjacent to the tank the the blueberry is is like "aww yeaaaaaa imma go troll a drop ship pilot!" Then naturally go fly into the red line! |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
368
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:40:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be.
so i am guessing you dont want them poaching your kills.
second thought, are you really helping your team if you sit idle and do you even care. just drive on man. a good tanker will not have to worry about some blueberry stealing their kills. Personally I will not get in a tank unless I know the tanker. There are lots of tankers that just plain ole suck so I would rather hoof it.
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sixteensixty4
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
89
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:50:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote: so i am guessing you dont want them poaching your kills.
second thought, are you really helping your team if you sit idle and do you even care. just drive on man. a good tanker will not have to worry about some blueberry stealing their kills. Personally I will not get in a tank unless I know the tanker. There are lots of tankers that just plain ole suck so I would rather hoof it.
Maybe some people dont like there kills being stolen, i dunno
but its generally a pain when you want to recall your tank, maybe av's a little to much, or you just want to swap fits or turrets, and the blue just wont move, they sit there the whole match sometimes just fireing at the floor and walls and nothing,,,,,
and if you you do just lump it and drive around with some tard fireing at nothing, its off putting, the constant noise of the other turret, the blue shield flash when they fire at floor, i always feel like i want to turn around to see what they are fireing at just incase a red is there is there, then low and behold... nothing
once in a blue moon you will get a sound gunner, that will watch your six and actually fire at reds, and its pretty cool and a good help when they do, but its also very rare
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1081
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:56:00 -
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So, did I cover what needs to be covered in the Working with Tanks section of my Frontline Infantry guide?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1285136#post1285136
____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
640
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Posted - 2013.09.19 18:57:00 -
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I hate gunners in everyway. I thought it was impossible to hate my own squad/corp mate gunner. But he decided to last second kill any installation I found...
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Tebu Gan
CrimeWave Syndicate
93
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Posted - 2013.09.19 19:33:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:While I understand the pain of idiots being in your vehicle while wishing to recall, could tankers try not to purposely run into blue LAVs...
Sorry, I had to go back behind the redline to change suits cause someone blew up my supply depots, could you choose to swerve not into me? I love more vehicles to blue tanks running right into me than enemy fire.
You do realize, I am bigger than you. And when I need to get out, and you happen to be in my way, I ram you. More often than not, it is the blue Lav that rams me, not the other way around. Except for that one blue dot shooting the turret at my friendly tank bud, I squished you on purpose! |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3601
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Posted - 2013.09.19 19:46:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be. so i am guessing you dont want them poaching your kills. second thought, are you really helping your team if you sit idle and do you even care. just drive on man. a good tanker will not have to worry about some blueberry stealing their kills. Personally I will not get in a tank unless I know the tanker. There are lots of tankers that just plain ole suck so I would rather hoof it. I don't care if they "poach my kills", hell I'd encourage it (+50 kill or +25 assist w/ +35 vehicle kill assist), but there are times when the tank is no longer useful on the field, and I'd like to recall it and continue to contribute on foot.
Thanks for assuming I'm all about k/d though. |
itsssssss meeeeeeeeeee
WE ARE LEGENDS
0
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Posted - 2013.09.19 19:54:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:When I sit idle in my tank for five minutes, that should be a sign that you're not wanted, not to switch guns so you can see better. I would like to recall my tank, however I can't do that when you're sitting there. Please gtfo of my tank.
Yours Truly, Every tanker that is, was, and will be. so i am guessing you dont want them poaching your kills. second thought, are you really helping your team if you sit idle and do you even care. just drive on man. a good tanker will not have to worry about some blueberry stealing their kills. Personally I will not get in a tank unless I know the tanker. There are lots of tankers that just plain ole suck so I would rather hoof it. I don't care if they "poach my kills", hell I'd encourage it (+50 kill or +25 assist w/ +35 vehicle kill assist), but there are times when the tank is no longer useful on the field, and I'd like to recall it and continue to contribute on foot. Thanks for assuming I'm all about k/d though. WP Wh0re!! |
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
88
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:22:00 -
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I used to hop in blue tanks. I'd get on the turret and watch the rear/anywhere the main gun wasn't pointed. I would use a quick burst of my gun to notify the driver of any enemies I felt he might not have noticed, and if the driver wasn't worried about it, I wouldn't worry either (unless of course I had a realistic chance to kill the red, then I would attempt a kill). I tried to avoid shooting at anything the main gun was shooting at, didn't wanna kill steal, the vehicle assists were more than enough for me. If we cleared an objective I would immediately hop out to hack. If there was a serious threat to the tank (a dude with a swarm or a couple of dudes with AV nades) that the tank was unable to deal with, I would immediately hop out and attempt to deal with the threat or at least buy time to let the tank escape.
Then I started noticing tanks blowing up yellow supply depots and turrets (turrets are whatever, but really? You are blowing up supply depots?! I know why y'all do it but come on. Give me a shot at defending it first), even if they were a quarter inch over our red line. I started getting hit from behind and pushed forward 30 to 100 meters into a blob of reds (and swiftly killed) by a blue tank who could have easily taken a half second 50 meters back to let me get off his bumper. I started noticing blue tanks sitting waaaaaaay behind our red line on a mountain for the whole match because "I'm a Rail Sniper", only to get 2-4 kills the whole match ("I didn't lose my tank though" says John Q Tanker). And I started noticing how much QQing tankers do on the forums because, when you boil it down, they refuse to work with infantry or gunners and usually pay the price for it.
So I steer clear of blue tanks now a days, and rarely will I put my neck on the line for a blue tank. You guys got it under control by yourselves? Well then by all means, go for it. Once that single guy with Swarms or AVs chases you off or kills you, then I can jump in without fear of being run over and actually do something productive for the team.
I realize many tankers are fairly competent, and most of what I said only applies to a small few. But tankers need to realize many ground troops are fairly competent, and most of what what tankers say only applies to a small few. I know there are bad apples on both sides of this discussion making life crappy for drivers and footies, but life would be easier for everyone if we would all work together, and that responsibility falls on the shoulders of both sides equally. And I do fully understand that your (tankers) costs to run equipment are 1000 times greater than my costs (infantry). Help me help you! I don't even want to be in a tank now a days, but if I run into a good tanker I will stick to him like glue and make sure those naughty Swarms/AVs don't have free reign over my big buddy. Just don't run me over! And let me try to defend/take supply depots from time to time. I kinda need those.
And just in case any tankers read this and only want to acknowledge my 2nd and 3rd paragraphs: I apologize for offending you. Go ahead and play superman, just keep your QQing to yourself and remember, I am far more survivable alone on foot than you are alone in your metal coffin |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2120
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:25:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:While I understand the pain of idiots being in your vehicle while wishing to recall, could tankers try not to purposely run into blue LAVs...
Sorry, I had to go back behind the redline to change suits cause someone blew up my supply depots, could you choose to swerve not into me? I love more vehicles to blue tanks running right into me than enemy fire. You should be giving way. We do destroy you, and were slow, if you cant get the **** out of the way that's your damn problem. |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1431
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:31:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:I used to hop in blue tanks. I'd get on the turret and watch the rear/anywhere the main gun wasn't pointed. I would use a quick burst of my gun to notify the driver of any enemies I felt he might not have noticed, and if the driver wasn't worried about it, I wouldn't worry either (unless of course I had a realistic chance to kill the red, then I would attempt a kill). I tried to avoid shooting at anything the main gun was shooting at, didn't wanna kill steal, the vehicle assists were more than enough for me. If we cleared an objective I would immediately hop out to hack. If there was a serious threat to the tank (a dude with a swarm or a couple of dudes with AV nades) that the tank was unable to deal with, I would immediately hop out and attempt to deal with the threat or at least buy time to let the tank escape.
Then I started noticing tanks blowing up yellow supply depots and turrets (turrets are whatever, but really? You are blowing up supply depots?! I know why y'all do it but come on. Give me a shot at defending it first), even if they were a quarter inch over our red line. I started getting hit from behind and pushed forward 30 to 100 meters into a blob of reds (and swiftly killed) by a blue tank who could have easily taken a half second 50 meters back to let me get off his bumper. I started noticing blue tanks sitting waaaaaaay behind our red line on a mountain for the whole match because "I'm a Rail Sniper", only to get 2-4 kills the whole match ("I didn't lose my tank though" says John Q Tanker). And I started noticing how much QQing tankers do on the forums because, when you boil it down, they refuse to work with infantry or gunners and usually pay the price for it.
So I steer clear of blue tanks now a days, and rarely will I put my neck on the line for a blue tank. You guys got it under control by yourselves? Well then by all means, go for it. Once that single guy with Swarms or AVs chases you off or kills you, then I can jump in without fear of being run over and actually do something productive for the team.
I realize many tankers are fairly competent, and most of what I said only applies to a small few. But tankers need to realize many ground troops are fairly competent, and most of what what tankers say only applies to a small few. I know there are bad apples on both sides of this discussion making life crappy for drivers and footies, but life would be easier for everyone if we would all work together, and that responsibility falls on the shoulders of both sides equally. And I do fully understand that your (tankers) costs to run equipment are 1000 times greater than my costs (infantry). Help me help you! I don't even want to be in a tank now a days, but if I run into a good tanker I will stick to him like glue and make sure those naughty Swarms/AVs don't have free reign over my big buddy. Just don't run me over! And let me try to defend/take supply depots from time to time. I kinda need those.
And just in case any tankers read this and only want to acknowledge my 2nd and 3rd paragraphs: I apologize for offending you. Go ahead and play superman, just keep your QQing to yourself and remember, I am far more survivable alone on foot than you are alone in your metal coffin
the ratio of ******** infantry to normal infantry is 100000000000000000/1 |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
88
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:44:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:the ratio of ******** infantry to normal infantry is 100000000000000000/1
Lol, while your numbers are exaggerated (just a bit) I will give you there are way more ****** infantry than there are ****** tankers, but only cause there is way more infantry than tankers.
So I offer a compromise. Over the next week or so I will do my best to help blue tanks, so long as they are at least attempting to be productive and letting me get off the bumper if they hit me (it happens, I know, just let me get off). All I ask is that you blue tanks at least look at who all is on your team, and if it looks like you have a strong squad or two, give them a chance to work on some of the supply depots. Those things can be crucial. And if you hit someone, let them get off your bumper (unless you got a bunch of swarms launched and heading your way, in that case I do understand. It's getting pushed forward as tanks are attacking that is really irking foot soldiers).
Unfortunately I can only speak for myself on this compromise. Hopefully any infantry players reading this thread will follow suit.
We can start there and see what happens. If we can get some trust built back up between tanks and foots and get us all working together, we could do some amazing stuff. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2614
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:50:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:I used to hop in blue tanks. I'd get on the turret and watch the rear/anywhere the main gun wasn't pointed. I would use a quick burst of my gun to notify the driver of any enemies I felt he might not have noticed, and if the driver wasn't worried about it, I wouldn't worry either (unless of course I had a realistic chance to kill the red, then I would attempt a kill). I tried to avoid shooting at anything the main gun was shooting at, didn't wanna kill steal, the vehicle assists were more than enough for me. If we cleared an objective I would immediately hop out to hack. If there was a serious threat to the tank (a dude with a swarm or a couple of dudes with AV nades) that the tank was unable to deal with, I would immediately hop out and attempt to deal with the threat or at least buy time to let the tank escape.
Then I started noticing tanks blowing up yellow supply depots and turrets (turrets are whatever, but really? You are blowing up supply depots?! I know why y'all do it but come on. Give me a shot at defending it first), even if they were a quarter inch over our red line. I started getting hit from behind and pushed forward 30 to 100 meters into a blob of reds (and swiftly killed) by a blue tank who could have easily taken a half second 50 meters back to let me get off his bumper. I started noticing blue tanks sitting waaaaaaay behind our red line on a mountain for the whole match because "I'm a Rail Sniper", only to get 2-4 kills the whole match ("I didn't lose my tank though" says John Q Tanker). And I started noticing how much QQing tankers do on the forums because, when you boil it down, they refuse to work with infantry or gunners and usually pay the price for it.
So I steer clear of blue tanks now a days, and rarely will I put my neck on the line for a blue tank. You guys got it under control by yourselves? Well then by all means, go for it. Once that single guy with Swarms or AVs chases you off or kills you, then I can jump in without fear of being run over and actually do something productive for the team.
I realize many tankers are fairly competent, and most of what I said only applies to a small few. But tankers need to realize many ground troops are fairly competent, and most of what what tankers say only applies to a small few. I know there are bad apples on both sides of this discussion making life crappy for drivers and footies, but life would be easier for everyone if we would all work together, and that responsibility falls on the shoulders of both sides equally. And I do fully understand that your (tankers) costs to run equipment are 1000 times greater than my costs (infantry). Help me help you! I don't even want to be in a tank now a days, but if I run into a good tanker I will stick to him like glue and make sure those naughty Swarms/AVs don't have free reign over my big buddy. Just don't run me over! And let me try to defend/take supply depots from time to time. I kinda need those.
And just in case any tankers read this and only want to acknowledge my 2nd and 3rd paragraphs: I apologize for offending you. Go ahead and play superman, just keep your QQing to yourself and remember, I am far more survivable alone on foot than you are alone in your metal coffin
Any halfway decent vehicle pilot understands that you MUST destroy all turrets and supply depots that you can in order to have even a chance to stay alive. Bluedots don't man the things, and if they exist, they will get hacked back and forth throughout the match... and they destroy vehicles with their perfect AI Aim in a matter of seconds.
If you don't go out and destroy them all, you might as well just recall your vehicle.
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Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
766
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:51:00 -
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Sorry 'bout that.
*Hops out of tank* |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
89
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:59:00 -
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Like I said, turrets are whatever. A blaster turret can be pretty helpful at times, but it doesn't really matter (to me at least) whether it's there or not. Supply Depots, however, are pretty important to the dudes on the ground, and Supply Depots can help us help you. Look, if the Depot is under the damn red MCC, take it out. If it's 50 meters from the blue MCC, don't get your panties in a bunch and hold on for a second. If the Depot is in the middle of the map by an objective that blues are pushing on and getting ready to take, hold the **** on. Give us a chance. If there aren't any Depots for me to change my fit, i'm gonna run what helps me survive, not what may help a tank.
If tankers don't wanna try and work with infantry, it's no skin off my balls. I can just go back to ignoring blue tanks all together and reading the QQ threads about 1 tank not being able to win a match all by itself. |
grunt party
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
33
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:14:00 -
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i once called in a blaster tank got pinged by 2 rail tanks went back to swap to a rail to combat them (they were redline),but i had a blue so i sat in my redline safe until they got out. they never did so i AFKed the whole match |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3628
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:15:00 -
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grunt party wrote:i once called in a blaster tank got pinged by 2 rail tanks went back to swap to a rail to combat them (they were redline),but i had a blue so i sat in my redline safe until they got out. they never did so i AFKed the whole match This is exactly what prompted me to make this thread. This exact same scenario. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1124
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:18:00 -
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LOL @ "not to switch sides so you can see better". I do agree that their should be some kind of eject button for those instances with a re-entry wait time of 10 seconds, if that's possible.
I always get the feeling someone is just trying to steal my ish when we both are just sitting there admiring the view... |
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