As I've received no feedback from anyone suggesting that this is a violation of any rule, I'm opening the exchange.

If you would like to plex an Eve Online account with your Dust profits, I'm offering to transfer your Dust isk in to Eve isk at a 1:50 exchange rate.

12M Dust isk buys 600M Eve isk
That is, if you have a spare 12M Dust isk, I'll accept it, and deliver 600M Eve isk to your Eve character, from Min Lo, my Eve-side alt.

600M Eve isk buys 6M Dust isk
If you have an Eve-side character with Eve-isk to spare, I'll exchange it to Dust isk at a 100:1 rate. 600M Eve isk delivered to Min Lo, buys 6M Dust isk, transfered to your Dust friend from this character.


Those are initial exchange rates; which will be tweaked in response to one-sided demand drawing down my reserves of either currency, currently about 200M Dust isk and 30B Eve isk.

If you want to try Eve Online, and plex your Eve account (rather than paying your own real world currency to CCP), after the initial free trial expires, you can either earn about 550M Eve-isk per month in Eve, or about 11.5M Dust Isk per month, and then exchange it into Eve, to support playing Eve Online.

EDIT2: Probably shooting myself in the foot, but I'm all for openness and honesty so...

If it can be a chore or hard/time consuming to get enough money in EVE to plex your account it makes sense it should be as hard (or take as long to accumulate enough money in ISK), thus making a 10:1/1:10 exhange rate between EVE and DUST more suitable. Thay way you would have to make 60 million per month in DUST just to send to EVE, so you'd have to be making more on top of that unless you only run BPOs or have a large stockpile of gear (or never die, lol). 12M ISK is too easy to gain in a month (IMO).

In other words, I'm still perfectly happy to exchange 600M Eve isk to your Eve character, in exchange for 12M Dust isk, instead of 60M Dust isk, but I'd gradually bump the exchange closer to the 10:1/1:10 rate you describe, if everybody wants to exchange their Dust isk for Eve isk, and my Eve isk reserves begin to shrink.

If you want another 600M Eve isk, I'd charge 14M Dust isk, for the second batch.
16M Dust isk for the third batch of 600M Eve isk.
18M Dust isk for the fourth batch of 600M Eve isk.
20M Dust isk for the fifth batch of 600M Eve isk.
23M Dust isk for the sixth batch of 600M Eve isk.
26M Dust isk for the seventh batch.
29M Dust isk for the eigth batch.
32M Dust isk for the ninth batch.
36M Dust isk for the tenth batch.

And this is the point where I nope out.

Not to be a jerk but what guarantee do players have that you will be honest? What prevents you from simply running off with my isk?
I would much rather do this through a service in game. no offense but i dont trust anyone.

I like it, but for simplicity in the exchange rate I recommend 1 dust to x eve isk and x eve isk to 1 dust isk with 5% tax each way
It'll make listing and changing the rate easier, also maybe start a corp named the isk exchange and list the people that you send the isk to ajdnd the current rate

I was planning on adjusting the exchange rate, if the exchanges turn out to be completely one sided at my initial rate.

In other words, I'm still perfectly happy to exchange 600M Eve isk to your Eve character, in exchange for 12M Dust isk, instead of 60M Dust isk, but I'd gradually bump the exchange closer to the 10:1/1:10 rate you describe, if everybody wants to exchange their Dust isk for Eve isk, and my Eve isk reserves begin to shrink.

If you want another 600M Eve isk, I'd charge 14M Dust isk, for the second batch.
16M Dust isk for the third batch of 600M Eve isk.
18M Dust isk for the fourth batch of 600M Eve isk.
20M Dust isk for the fifth batch of 600M Eve isk.
23M Dust isk for the sixth batch of 600M Eve isk.
26M Dust isk for the seventh batch.
29M Dust isk for the eigth batch.
32M Dust isk for the ninth batch.
36M Dust isk for the tenth batch.

And so on, interrupting that climb as soon as I start getting customers in the opposite direction.

As soon as I get people who want to exchange Eve isk for Dust Isk, I can begin to stabilize the exchange rate, starting off at about half of whatever my last Dust to Eve exchange was. If you want the first ten batches for 6B Eve isk, it would cost you 226M dust isk, and I'd then be offering Eve Online players batches of 18M Dust isk for 600M Eve isk, adjusting the amount of Dust isk up closer to 36:600 with repeat business.

Also, if you want me to get a referral, you can sign up for your free trial via:

https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=593ee861-b719-4f43-9286-ac1d1b9f1f80&action=buddy

So you can get a 21 day trial instead of 14 days, and if you then upgrade your account (including via a plex) I'll get a reward I can split with you. If several people do that, it greatly mitigates my risk of miscalculating the initial exchange rate.

If you already know someone else who plays Eve Online, you can get them to invite you instead so they'll get the reward. Ask them for a buddy invite.

well... your exchange rate is pretty high. that's all.

When are you usually on Gyn?

Eastern Standard Time, most evenings, and occasionally during the day, more likely on the weekends. Add me as a contact if you like.

You have DUST mail BTW.

Hi, received and replied. As soon as you post in this thread with your Eve Online character's name (an Eve-mail from that Eve character to Min Lo would probably make it easier for me too) and then send 26M Dust isk to me, Gyn Wallace, I'll have Min Lo send you 1.2B Eve isk. Afterwards, if you could post here to confirm the transaction was completed, I'd appreciate it.

Upon completion of the first transfer, the next batch would be available at exchange rates of:

16M Dust isk buys 600M Eve isk, and
600 Eve isk buys 8M Dust isk.

If people kept buying Eve isk, the rate would continue to climb, to:

18M Dust isk buys 600M Eve isk, and
600M Eve isk buys 9M Dust isk.

As soon as I get Eve players buying Dust isk, I can begin to stabilize the rates and tighten them up.

That would probably work so that I get the names and values involved in the exchange.

EVE ISK gets sent to my pilot in EVE obviously, and DUST ISK gets sent to this character, and then I send accordingly, minus fee's etc (whatever I would think that would be).

All and all, of course assuming that CCP does not object.

/c

Yeah, I'll probably just send it to you in advance and you can give me an IOU until the time comes when I have a seller of what I want, then we'll all meet in a chat to make sure the transfers go smoothly. Thanks.

I like the idea of meeting in a chat to complete transactions quickly, but I'd rather not accept your Dust isk so soon, if you're not sure when you'd like the Eve isk delivered. Your rate for the first two transactions is locked in for... let's say a month? If you don't complete within a month, and the rate is climbing, would that be withdrawing my initially offered exchange rate too quickly? I'm really not in a hurry. Any day now, we might all luck out and have CCP announce an official exchange that would make this all much easier for everyone.

I'd prefer to avoid any unnecessary complexity by holding people's money any longer than necessary ( I realize that's a funny thing to write, given my last post's length, and this entire idea of opening an isk exchange, but I am trying to open an exchange rather than a bank).

I'm happy to try to balance "The Customer is always right." and your convenience, with my desire to avoid being associated with Eve's ugly history of "banking."

Flint, low genius, and General Eric; you've all expressed interest in my initial offer, so the 12M Dust isk for 600M Eve isk offer persists for you guys, if one of you wants the first batch.

Hmm. Did the Chribba actually become escrow for this?

Hmm. Did the Chribba actually become escrow for this?

The first five batches are gone. I've asked my first customer to post here confirming the successfully completed transactions. I now have 280M Dust isk available and a little over 17B Eve isk available.

For the week beginning Oct. 14th, the following rates are available:

For Dust to Eve transfers, the next available batches are:

23M Dust for 600M Eve, sixth batch;
26M Dust for 600M Eve, seventh batch;
29M Dust for 600M Eve, eighth batch;
32M Dust for 600M Eve, ninth batch;
36M Dust for 600M Eve, tenth batch;
40M Dust for 600M Eve, 11th batch;
45M Dust for 600M Eve, 12th batch;
50M Dust for 600M Eve, 13th batch;
60M Dust for 600M Eve, 14th batch;
70M Dust for 600M Eve, 15th batch;

For the opposite direction of transfers, from Eve to Dust isk, the initial rate has risen to:

600M Eve for 12M Dust isk, for the first batch (Batch "A" from now on, to distinguish trades in this direction).

If no interest in this Eve to Dust transfers manifests, this will continue to rise as Dust to Eve transfers complete. If still no traffic in this direction after someone takes the seventh Dust to Eve batch above, the payout for 600M Eve isk will rise to 13M Dust isk.

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Flint and General Erick,

If you're still interested, one of you can still have the sixth batch for the initially quoted first batch price of 12M Dust isk, through the end of the week, Oct. 20th.

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Flint,

If you still want four batches (2.4B Eve Isk) that's 12, 26, 29, and 32 millions of Dust isk. If you only want the first batch, for 12M that's ok too.

Also, since I have confirmed your Eve character's name, I can confirm your request for an exchange at the following rates:
12M Dust isk for 600M Eve isk, or
99M Dust isk for 2.4B Eve isk;
Upon Gyn Wallace's receipt of 12M or 99M Dust isk by Oct. 20th, Min Lo will deliver 600M or 2.4B Eve isk to Flint Beastgood 0 (Zero, not Capital "O") by Oct. 21st. If we catch each other online at the same time, we can complete the transactions then.

I reserve the right to cancel this transaction and return any Dust isk you send me for a variety of reasons including things like: CCP people frowning at me about it; Tranquility server taking a dive on Sunday so I can't complete; someone else coming along and offering me a rate so good I can't refuse them.

If the transaction completes and you experience buyer's remorse and want to reverse the transaction, you must let me know by Oct. 23rd. You get three days after I've delivered to change your mind and reverse the transaction. After that, the deal is done, i.e. irreversible.

Feel free to post here if you have any questions, or you can just send the Dust isk to Gyn Wallace. If I check and see that you've sent the isk well before your deadline, the 20th, I'll try to complete my end early as well.

That being said I haven't seen either of them in a while, so maybe they both got banned.

CONFIRMATION: 99mil ISK transferred to Gyn Wallace from Flint Beastgood III @ 21:52

You should try editing the first post with the newest most relevant info

... Second I know that Kane's rate averaged around 1:8, so your rates are remarkably high on the Eve side.

Third, you should keep in mind in terms of your changing rates that if others start doing the same thing as you (and others are already doing it) there will be competition and you can probably expect players to stop using your services when they become too high for their comfort. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of that.

That all being said, I think that this is the solution to the Dust-Eve isk exchange issue, and that the only real further action CCP needs to take is to greenlight such transactions and create contracts to protect those who use these services. This "flexible exchange rate" is a far better way to regulate both economies than a tax ever could be.

23m for the next one, huh? And I'd message you on Dust with the name of an EVE character, get a reply, then send ISK? That's the general gist of it?

CONFIRMATION: 2.4bil EVE ISK received.

Good doing business with you.

Need to promote that EVE thread now and get some transfers going in the opposite direction to bring down the rate for exchanging DUST ISK so I can do some more deals

The time required to make 36 million in Dust vs. 600 million in EVE isn't even close to comparable.

I can make that (36mil DUST) in a week just through playing the game. Meta-game contracts net me even more each week. With that in mind, expect the official transfer rate (when CCP implement it) to be a lot tighter than Gyn's rates.

EDIT: if there's a way (for a new guy) to earn 600mil a week in EVE please do let me know.

If there's a good reason why I should continue to exchange Dust isk into Eve isk at a 1:50 ratio, I'll listen/read it.

It's not really about new guys though, as the target Dust players wouldn't be "new" either. I'm sure there are Dust players that grind away everyday and get tons of money.

Do you have any outstanding orders? Is this change being implemented already?

If no to both, does that mean that for the next four batches it would be 171mil ISK (36+40+45+50) for 2.4bil EVE?

I have the funds waiting to be transferred.

I do have outstanding orders. I've updated the first post. Hopefully the status of the queue, is clearer now. (That's someone else whose queued up for the next 4). I have some inquiries but no requests for the next batch. Should I queue you up for the 14th through17th batches?

Nerevar Dwemor, if you find this thread and would like to confirm the terms of an exchange, I'll need:

#1: Your Dust character name:_____________
#2: Receipt of either 300M Dust isk or 2B Dust isk (depending on the batch size you confirm here in this thread) from that character to Gyn Wallace.

#3: Confirmation that you'd like the Eve isk (either 2.4B or 14B, depending on the batch size you select) delivered from Min Lo to Nerevar Dwemor. If not, I'd need the name of the Eve alt to receive delivery, confirmed here in this thread.

#4: I ask for a couple of days to complete delivery, in case you don't send me the dusk isk right away, or I don't notice immediately. Historically I've been able to complete transactions much more quickly than 48 hours. If you catch me online, transactions can be completed in minutes.

Let me know if you have any questions.

-Gyn Wallace, Dust side.
-Min Lo, Eve side.

That would be me, I'd rather do this when both of us are online though.

is this still going on today?

can't rates be normalized to some form of the real money exchange that happens between the two games?

example:
$15 buys one plex = roughtly 600m Eve isk.

I think it was $10 buys 10000 aurum?
assuming a proto weapon is roughly 50k dust isk and generally about 100 aurum:
10000 aurum is 5mil dust isk.

just a fleeting thought of course and probably not the greatest idea for the exchange.
Also, can't corps get api verified? Couldn't you use that to help track exchanges?

Since that is a violation of the TOS, the only way to manage something like this is to base it off the supply/demand for EVE ISK vs. DUST ISK in the same way international currency exchange rates are determined.

Ok well right now I have my corp raising money to get like 2-3 batches so I can get money coming back in the other direction by getting my old accounts back on. Not sure how long it will take but I will be interested.

-deleted-

If you're returning to Eve after a long break, I'll mention the "hours for plex" feature on the off chance you're not familiar with it. If you log on to the Eve Online account management website, there is an option to activate your account for 4 hours or so, so you can log on to Eve and apply a plex to your account. You no longer have to subscribe with real $ for a month to begin plexing an Eve account that had been inactive.

I mention it partly because its a feature lots of Dust players considering making an Eve account (the likely audience for this thread) might appreciate reading about, even if you were already familiar with it, Cash.

In regards to the order. Let Flint go first, I dont want to hold anyone up as it will take a fair amount of time for my corp to grind what we need. Definitely longer than a week for three batches. I was more concerned if this was still available to us as I can only grind Dust isk at the moment but could make substantially more with my EVE accounts and transferring EVE isk back to Dust isk for my DUST corp. Basically I wanted to know you were still alive and providing this service, now that I know we are working for three batches and when I am within a week I will let you know.

Sounds good, I'll update the first post and await word from Flint.

UPDATE to show rates available as of Nov. 22th, 2013:

80M Dust for 600M Eve, 45th batch; - Next available
80M Dust for 600M Eve, 46th batch;
90M Dust for 600M Eve, 47th batch;
90M Dust for 600M Eve, 48th batch;
100M Dust for 600M Eve, 49th batch;
100M Dust for 600M Eve, 50th batch;
110M Dust for 600M Eve, 51st batch;
110M Dust for 600M Eve, 52nd batch;
120M Dust for 600M Eve, 53rd batch;

For the opposite direction of transfers, from Eve to Dust isk, the initial offer rate of exchange has risen to:

600M Eve for 61M Dust isk, for the "A" batch;
600M Eve for 61M Dust isk, for the "B" batch;
600M Eve for 61M Dust isk for the "C" batch;
600M Eve for 61M Dust isk for the "D" batch;
600M Eve for 60M Dust isk for the "E" batch;
600M Eve for 60M Dust isk for the "F" batch;
600M Eve for 60M Dust isk for the "G" batch;

-Gyn Wallace/Min Lo


Original post follows:


I'd like to open an ISK exchange between Dust and Eve. It would operate as follows.

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An example,

A Dust player wants to try Eve, makes a 14-day free trial character, likes it, and wants to continue playing Eve, by plexing his Eve account. He was frugal and kicked ass within Dust, so he has plenty of Dust ISK sitting around. He pays 5 million ISK from his Dust character to me, in exchange for my Eve character giving 500 million Eve ISK to his Eve character. His Dust character can convert his Dust ISK into Eve ISK, through me (and my Eve character), at an 1 to 100 exchange rate.

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Another example,

A rich Eve player has lots of ISK and wants to help fund his Dust allies equipment for a FW or PC match. His Eve player gives 505 million ISK to my Eve character, in exchange for my paying 5 million ISK to his Dust buddies.

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Combining the two above examples, I make 5 million Eve-side ISK, while Dust and Eve players get to exchange their currencies at 1:100 and 101:1 exchange rates.

I'm not asking CCP to enforce my arrangements, or provide security to me or my potential clients, I just want to know:

#1 Is this kosher or would CCP consider it a violation of RMT rules, despite there being no "real" money involved? In other words, is Dust "outside" Eve Online such that my examples would be considered rule violations?

and

#2 What do Eve and Dust players think the initial exchange rate should be, if my above examples are way off? I don't want to rapidly run out of Dust or Eve currency. Until competition closes the gap in exchange rates, I'd probably begin with a larger margin than the above examples, but figuring out exactly how large, requires feedback/proposals from the rest of you.

I don't want to wait for CCP to implement a currency exchange if we don't have to, but I also don't want to break any of CCP's rules.

Thanks for your thoughtful replies,


Gyn Wallace, Dust-side
Min Lo, Eve-side

P.S. I'm hoping someone at CCP recognizes the advantage of giving Eve players the option of plexing their accounts by either playing eve well enough to make and extra ~550M ISK/month in Eve OR by playing Dust well enough to make ~5.5M ISK /month (or whatever the exchange rate wind up as). Since an exchange should be a boon to both Dust and Eve, I don't understand why it hasn't been implemented yet by CCP. So long as there is no rule standing in the way, I'll happily implement an exchange myself.

Interested, please contact me.

#1 You, the CE Code seller and I all agree on the terms of the exchange (including delivery schedule) on the Dust forums
#2 You pay me 110M Dust isk (105M +5% escrow fee, assuming that this doesn't happen quickly enough to get the lower exchange rate); I tell CE code seller that you've paid me.
#3 CE code seller gives me the code.
#4 I verify the validity of the code, somehow?
#5 I give the CE code seller his 700M Eve isk and give you the CE code.

I thought about suggesting a similar arrangement, but it is nice to see someone else had the same thought. I donGÇÖt have enough ISK on DUST side to run something like this myself anyway.

I now dub thee Gyn "Marcellus" Wallace.

Dux and I get to be Jules and Vincent - calling it!

Excellent service. Highly Recommended.

No one in EVE is buying DUST ISK (hence the super high rates here), so you only really need EVE ISK if you want to start a service like this. You'll have plenty of DUST ISK in no time.

[quote=Flint Beastgood III]EDIT2:

Also, if you want me to get a referral, you can sign up for your free trial via:

https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=593ee861-b719-4f43-9286-ac1d1b9f1f80&action=buddy

So you can get a 21 day trial instead of 14 days, and if you then upgrade your account (including via a plex) I'll get a reward I can split with you. If several people do that, it greatly mitigates my risk of miscalculating the initial exchange rate.

I need 1200mil EVE ISK. How is the procedure?

Looking to transfer isk, mails sent from both dust and eve chars.

Ready to be queued for next batch.

EDIT: hey, batch 50 will be 30bil EVE sold... wasn't that how much you had to start with? Have you made lots more EVE ISK since starting the service? Just curious.

EDIT 2: You must be one of the richest players in DUST now :)

Gyn! I'm ready when I'm ready, I can't help it if someone else happens to be ready for a transfer around the same time.

K, let me know when Haerr has purchased his batches. I'm ready now but it wouldn't make sense to sell batch 52 before 50 and 51.

Just wanted to say that everything worked fine and say thank you to Gyn for this awesome service!

I was wondering if I could get queued up for one batch, please.



My EVE is Knight Solataire, and of course, this is the account (Knight Soiaire) I will send the ISK from.

So should I send the ISK now? Or is there a certain way of doing it?

You can send it whenever you'd like. If you also send an evemail to Gyn Wallace, it will help me notice that its arrived. If you're on in the evenings, Eastern Standard Time, you can probably catch me online, invite me to a conversation, and then we can complete the transfers pretty quickly.

If you don't catch me online, I might not notice that you've sent the Dust isk til the next morning or evening. But if you don't mind waiting, you can send it when I'm offline, and I'll send the Eve isk to Knight Solataire the next time I log on.

This thread should be called "Jita local chat".

To OP: But yeah, this player-side Eve/Dust link sounds interesting in a scientific experiment sort of way. I would be interested if you posted your results so we could get a handle of how different the economies are right now. I believe we will find that CCP's plans for integrating the two markets has some serious hurdles in it.

I require your services, when available. In game mails sent.

Hi again Agrios Endendros. You're queued up for 110M Dust isk buying 600M Eve isk. Send the Dust isk at your convenience.

I too, require your services. I will send in-game (eve) mail soon.

I'd wait for that too I think. The time required to make 36 million in Dust vs. 600 million in EVE isn't even close to comparable.

also if youre into mining like me (same idea as DUST, limitless money) you can poor money in (600m isnt much once you get into mining) and push the exchange back the other way, 25mil dust for 600mil eve sounds pretty stable to me as this would require a casual dust player to play a bit more than usual but not way too much. how much would it cost to bring down the rate to say 50m = 600m?

ISK received, pleasure doing business Gyn.

Send 600,000,000 EVE Isk to my EVE Character Jelly Fat and I'll send you back 122,000,000 Dust Isk ASAP.


I'm also selling an unused Collector's Edition Templar BPO Code for 1,000,000,000 EVE Isk. Cash up front.

This is absolutely serious!

This is absolutely serious!

Send 600,000,000 EVE Isk to my EVE Character Jelly Fat and I'll send you back 122,000,000 Dust Isk ASAP.


I'm also selling an unused Collector's Edition Templar BPO Code for 1,000,000,000 EVE Isk. Cash up front.

It's an offer from me to you.

It's an offer from me to you.

Let me know. I will be online shortly.

Nevermind, I'll use your services under your conditions.

Been a pleasure doing business with you!

Are these rates still active and accurate?

Need a small amount (not whole batch) if possible Gyn mate.

Sure, I just dropped the rate for Dust to Eve transfers; 600M Eve only costs 115M Dust now. I'll maintain that ratio for a smaller batch for a returning customer. For example, 57.5M Dust would buy you 300M Eve, Flint.

Okay mate, I'll send the 57.5mil ISK when I get on DUST later. Thanks.

Just completed another big Eve to Dust transfer, so the rates have fallen again, updated on first post. 300M Eve will only cost you 55m, Flint. In fact, unless you've changed Eve characters, I'll just send the 300M to Flint Beastgood 0 (zero, not "o"). I'm confident that you're good for it, as my longest running repeat customer, so just let me know if you want the 300M sent there or to a different alt, and send the 55M at your convenience.

I've seen so do some smaller transactions so I was wondering if you would be interested in 370m EVE isk that I have spare and how much would you give me dust wise?

For customers converting Dust isk into Eve isk the rate of exchange is about 1 to 5 (smaller size batches are a little more expensive), so:
~2,600,000,000 Eve isk is for sale at:
52M Dust isk buys 250m Eve isk, or
101M Dust isk buys 500M Eve isk, or
110M Dust isk buys 550M Eve isk, or
120M Dust isk buys 600M Eve isk, or
130M Dust isk buys 650M Eve isk, or
500M Dust isk buys 2.6B Eve isk.

After the above pile of Eve isk is sold, the ratio shifts closer to 1 to 4.8 which would be:

The next ~2,500,000,000 Eve isk would sell for:
52M Dust isk buys 240m Eve isk, or
101M Dust isk buys 480M Eve isk, or
110M Dust isk buys 528M Eve isk, or
120M Dust isk buys 576M Eve isk, or
130M Dust isk buys 624M Eve isk, or
500M Dust isk buys 2.5B Eve isk.

For the opposite direction of isk transfers, converting Eve isk into Dust isk, various batch sizes are available:

300M Eve buys 25M Dust isk for the smaller "tiny A" batch - available
300M Eve buys 25M Dust isk for the smaller "tiny B" batch

600M Eve buys 60M Dust isk for the "AX" batch; - available
600M Eve buys 60M Dust isk for the "AY" batch;
600M Eve buys 60M Dust isk for the "AZ" batch;
600M Eve buys 60M Dust isk for the "BA" batch;
600M Eve buys 60M Dust isk for the "BB" batch;
600M Eve buys 60M Dust isk for the "BC" batch;

10B Eve buys 1B Dust isk for the large "AAA" batch -available
10.25B Eve buys 1B Dust isk for the large "BBB" batch
10.5B Eve buys 1B Dust isk for the large "CCC" batch

I need another small batch. I see 52mil DUST for 250mil EVE.... I'll take that.

As one of my longest running customers, I don't think I'll even bother to clutter up the queue: 250M Eve sent to Flint Beastgood 0 from Min Lo. Please send the 52M Dust to Gyn Wallace, at your convenience.

-Gyn Wallace/Min Lo

I think I would be interested in this possibly. Do I need to send you a mail when I send the cash? How does the transaction work basically?

As I've received no feedback from anyone suggesting that this is a violation of any rule, I'm opening the exchange.

If you would like to plex an Eve Online account with your Dust profits, I'm offering to transfer your Dust isk in to Eve isk at a 1:50 exchange rate.

12M Dust isk buys 600M Eve isk
That is, if you have a spare 12M Dust isk, I'll accept it, and deliver 600M Eve isk to your Eve character, from Min Lo, my Eve-side alt.

600M Eve isk buys 6M Dust isk
If you have an Eve-side character with Eve-isk to spare, I'll exchange it to Dust isk at a 100:1 rate. 600M Eve isk delivered to Min Lo, buys 6M Dust isk, transfered to your Dust friend from this character.


Those are initial exchange rates; which will be tweaked in response to one-sided demand drawing down my reserves of either currency, currently about 200M Dust isk and 30B Eve isk.

If you want to try Eve Online, and plex your Eve account (rather than paying your own real world currency to CCP), after the initial free trial expires, you can either earn about 550M Eve-isk per month in Eve, or about 11.5M Dust Isk per month, and then exchange it into Eve, to support playing Eve Online.

Is the 15mill > 600mill still going on?

How much Eve isk is left at 5:1?

Which one is now the actual todays exchange rate?

Which one is now the actual todays exchange rate?

Bags 500M Dust->Eve thanks.

Sponk is correct, the OP shows the current rate, and when it was last updated. In case I get hit by a bus or something, its a good idea to contact me to confirm your exchange ahead of time. This also gives me the chance to confirm the identity of your characters, to minimize any fat finger errors on my part.

Ideally, I get two evemails from a new customer: First, an evemail saying, "Hi I'd like to transfer ___M isk to my alt, Mr. So-in-so. Can I confirm that I'd get ____M in Dust/Eve for this exchange?" and a second evemail from Mr. So-in-so to my alt in the same game, Eve or Dust.

The first evemail is necessary, in that the paying customer identifies the recipient, avoiding any confusion or impersonation security issues. The second evemail is convenient, in that it let's me transfer the isk with ease, without having to search for that alt in that game.

People sometimes send isk first without confirming the recipient or exchange rate first, but I then contact them and ask them to confirm the recipient, and/or ask them to confirm the exchange rate, if there was any ambiguity due to a recent rate change.

So far, aside from the slightly more job-than-game aspect of it, the exchange seems to be going pretty smoothly. I'm kind of amazed no one's tried to scam me. The only guy I even suspected of being shady turned out to be a totally stand up customer, a few pages back in this very thread.

Don-¦t you have that course for 120 mil DUST ISK for 1 Plex anymore?

OP rates updated.

That's quite a spike in rates.

I-¦ll take the 52-200mil pack.

52M Dust isk received from AmlSeb. Please post here, or send me an evemail, from AmlSeb, telling me to whom you'd like the 200M Eve isk paid. You, AmlSeb, are the only one who can tell me who to pay. Otherwise, the process would permit imposters.

Thank you,
-Gyn Wallace/Min Lo

I sent you the name in the subject of the payment but anyway. It's for Sakari Aurilen

I am transferring 600 mil from my Eve character, jelo Magnetti. Please send dust isk this this character Mass Heals. You have been mailed from my Eve toon as well.

Thanks!

Transfer complete. Thanks for the business,
-Gyn Wallace/Min Lo

Are you open to using Chribba as a third party to increase your 'standings' i.e. credit rating?

Eve Isk 1,200,000,000 Bil send from Ichi Mijamoto ( Eve ) to Min Lo to receive Dust Isk for Char Jaghen Hagharr ( Dust ).

Thanks for the Service

Hi, I'm interested in transfering ISK from dust to eve, what is the current rate? and how do I get in contact with you.

Are you open to using Chribba as a third party to increase your 'standings' i.e. credit rating?

Nevertheless, will be looking to transfer some money EVE -> Dust, will send you later when I get back from work.

Thanks!

Hi,

Doubling the 600M to 68M batch would yield 136M Dust isk, but since you're sending more than a billion Eve isk, I used the 1B to 117M exchange ratio, so: 1.2B Eve isk received; 140M Dust isk sent. Thank you for the business, Jaghen Hagharr/Ichi Mijamoto.

-Gyn Wallace/Min Lo

I sent Min Lo an amount of isk on EVE to be sent to my dust character. You should have also received a message EVE side stating the amount and details.

Hi. I have 300 mill isk in eve online i want to exchange to Dust isk, for whatever the going rate is at this moment.

How do i do this? Do i need to send the money to a corp, or character in eve?

The exchange rate from Dust to Eve has changed toward 1 to 5.5. 52M Dust isk would buy you 575M Eve isk, for as long as this rate change lasts.

Well, I've made my first butter-fingers error. When updating recent customers about the rate change by evemail I've mistakenly offered someone an exchange with an obvious error. I wrote,
where the underlined "5" should have been a "2".

I was sent 104M by this customer, and sent them 572M Eve isk (5.5x 104M). They had doubled the 52M in the quote and were expecting another 572M.

What's the right way to fix this? I've immediately offered to reverse the transaction, since they were clearly expecting a 1 to 11 exchange rate. Is this enough? The root of the problem is my typo.

Edit: I'm considering refunding 52M Dust isk (resulting in precisely fulfilling the original quote that contained the typo.) I don't want the community to expect that solution though. Reversing an unsatisfactory transaction (if requested within three days) is the primary remedy; the only remedy I feel bound to provide. I don't want the community to expect me to complete transactions wildly outside the normal exchange rates, if I make a typo that includes an extra digit . Or for example, If I'd omitted the underlined "5" in, "52M Dust isk would buy you 275M Eve isk." I think someone might send me 2M Dust isk and then demand 275M Eve isk, but I don't think someone could send me 200M Dust isk and reasonably demand 27.5B Eve isk, based on that error.

I'm undecided on whether my current offer to reverse the transaction is sufficient, or whether I should honor the quote in my typo and refund 52M Dust isk to this customer. The community's thoughts on the right solution are welcome.

Sent Dust ISK and an eve mail.

Hi ZDub,

Please confirm the identity of your Eve Character to receive the exchanged isk, either here or via evemail. Only the character who pays me can name their alt, who will ultimately receive the exchanged isk.

This prevents, for example, someone's brother who also plays Dust or Eve, from learning of a planned transaction and impersonating the correct recipient.

Thank you,
-Gyn Wallace/Min Lo

What is the current rate from Eve to Dust? If I send 1.2 Billion eve isk, what would I get in Dust?