if you want a scout with four damage mods just get the Caldari assault.

Damage mod stacked caldari scout would be the most ridiculous, non-factor suit in the game.

when eWar comes out the Caldari will be a threat...or not. idk.

not really. the scout would be faster, less profile and be able to use cloaking if and when it comes out

flux, give it a mean look =

"Caldari scout killed by its existence alone"

Don't get your hopes up, unless they buff the crap out of scout stats in general I realized that this scout could suck the big one, complex shield s or dam mods plus guns is gonna beat the $hit out of your CPU an pg leaving the low slot for only a CPU chip upgrade, which means, no armor or repair ever, no speed, no range mods, and it won't even beat a basic scanner even with level 5 profile dampening as a passive, not to mention good friggen luck using any equipment or grenades, this suit will be a sitting duck if it's stats aren't properly in order when it's made.

you have a point. i was thinking the base stats could be slightly higher than others to make up for the low slot loss, but not so muh higher that it becomes OP

Keep in mind there's talk of buffing the current model scouts with anything from a second equip slot oh an extra high or low slot and a bit more CPU/pg, so if that comes into play then the Caldari might have more of a chance Juan you're thinking.

I already have a alt brewing on boosters for this fit, specializing in just nova knifes , and skilling up the suit to 5 all across the board with no points in suits or weapons, just a scanner an nk an remotes, making it so I have all passive abilities an the mods a scout needs, just running bpo an stacking tons of isk.

I hope they buff all the scouts by the time this suit drops, I believe it will be a force to be reckoned with if done propper, an a abomination if ccp flops

Does anybody have any idea what it's racial bonus could be?
I've sat here looking a modules and there are only 2 real scout modules available for high slots. Precision enhancers and damage modifiers. So given that you are trying to make a "scout fit", there would be no point in Shield Regens, because scouts have hyper regen anyways. The only viable fitting would be shield tank or damage mods. They'll have terrible scan abilities and no ability to speed tank, I can only see the Caldari Scout as a faster lesser Caldari Assault.

130 shields and 70 armor.

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sorry if i make a few spelling errors. im on ps vita and its touch keyboard is kind of lame. anyway, any date on when this will be released. ive been wanting this for so long and even did a little speculation on it. you know how the gallente scout has 1 high and 4 lows? well i figure caldari would be the opposite with 4 highs and 1 low. this could be excellent for shield tank + regen combo. or a damage mod based fit, also with shielding. just thinking about it gets me excited.

Does anybody have any idea what it's racial bonus could be?
I've sat here looking a modules and there are only 2 real scout modules available for high slots. Precision enhancers and damage modifiers. So given that you are trying to make a "scout fit", there would be no point in Shield Regens, because scouts have hyper regen anyways. The only viable fitting would be shield tank or damage mods. They'll have terrible scan abilities and no ability to speed tank, I can only see the Caldari Scout as a faster lesser Caldari Assault.

It should get a racial bonus to precision, and ECM/ECCM should be based on the precision stat

That's what I was thinking, but then I realized, that that skill would basically make the Caldari scout only good at fighting other scouts. Also, what do you mean "and ECM/ECCM should be based on precision stat"?

ECM stands for Electrical Counter Measures, its essentially a very aggressive form of EWAR, which the Caldari were best in (Caldari Recon ships were the best EWAR ships in EVE, followed by Amarr), which can include things like turning off tacnet/mics, placing decoy signals, ect. ECCM is Electircal Counter Counter Measures, which essentially just resists ECM effects.

Or have them be the only scout that has two equipment slots like how the amarr logi is the only one with a sidearm.

No-no-no-no-no, I know what ECM/ECCM means. I mean what do you mean base it off of precision? That would be strange, that a scan precision has anything to do with anything outside of scanning. Do you mean profile?

But but but but that makes no sense since it would be able to run as fast as a Gallente but it would have 2 EQ?

Caldari are one of the slowest races in EVE, so I would image the caldari scout would be slower than the Gal Scout even if both of them had 2 equipment slots.

take a look at stats. Caldari Medium runs the same speed as Gallente Medium.

But but but but that makes no sense since it would be able to run as fast as a Gallente but it would have 2 EQ?
Also bonuses shouldn't be directly one weapon oriented. So no shotgun, RE, sniper bonuses. Hybrid weapon/Laser Weapon/Projectile weapon boosts are different.

The gal has the ability to out speed tank a cal scout or so I hope. And the minja has the nova knife bonus so was just throwing out ideas. Just wanted some thing for the cal or even the amarr for a completely different play style to scouting atm

The amarr would be acceptable.

The caldari shouldn't because:
A) It, as it stands, would be on Speed par with Gallente
B) Can shield tank, thus tank without speed penalty
C) equal module count (but opposite) of Gallente

The amarr would be perfect because by reason, they will be slower and have less modules. That way there would be a reason to spec into the amarr.

Can totally get behind amarr having two equipment slots. Much better idea than cal considering if it mirrors the gal. I had a dumb fart. Still trying to work out a good bonus for the cal or im gonna lose sleep

It would seem precision is the only way to go but even then,

My vision for the Caldari scout:

Ewar heavy platform, good passive scan, possible bonuses to scanners and/or ewar, much lower EHP than Caldari assault, faster than assaults but slower than other races' scouts, possibly slightly tankier than the other scouts as well?

take into consideration a few things.
1. ccp has had much more time to think about this one, so it may not simply mirror the gallente scout
2. the bonus could be (as previously stated) +5% shotgun damage or -5% shield regen delay. this would surely separate it from the gal. scout
3. it would be fair because while they wont have the penalty to movment speed they wont have the OPTION to speed tank.
this whole thing works espcially well when taking into consideration the shield depleted recharge time. this could literally be the difference between life or death.

This very much this,



Hell no, one weapon bonus makes for crappy gameplay especially for a gallentean weapon on a caldari platform is about as low of a suggestion one can go. And shield regen delay is so short that the % means nothing, especially for the low eph of the scout.

arent the nova knives gallente? i may be wrong, but assuming im right, the minmatar scout gets +nova knife dmg, so who is to say that+ SG dmg is "as low of a suggestion as one can go" as of now the caldari dont even have their form of an assault rifle, so what other weapon could they get bonus dmg to? the minmatar scout isnt bad and is often used for its bonus NK dmg, so what makes bonus SG dmg so bad?

You are very misinformed dear

Nova Knives = Caldari
Minmatar Scout gets + Melee damage, Nova Knives are sidearm!

I can only see the Scout as a faster lesser Assault.

Fixed...

Seriously though, I alway figured Caldari would have ewar bonuses - but there isn't much in the way of ewar - if Caldari get a bonus to active scanners, ill be kinda pissed because then they would be the only scout with an effective bonus to scouting.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have the Caldari scout recharge delay or sniper bonus though, since CCP aren't sure what scouts are for.

OR...and this may be a touch too logical here; when they release the other scouts they will fix all scouts at the same time - it makes sense they will balance new scouts against the new/improved version of current scouts.

Like I said - there seems to be too much logic for that to ever happen.

Also agree that if only one scout gets two slots, it'd be Amarr.

ill admit i may be wrong about the race, but minmatar scout DEFINITELY gets bonus NK and melee dmg per level.

Pretty sure they don't
Nova Knives have a devastating melee attack but I do not think it applies to charge shots. So NK damage is only relevant to the Minni if you use it's melee function.

People use Min's and Nova's because of the min's speed

Minmatar Scout Bonus: +5% to melee and nova knife damage per level

this really is a tough one. there wouldnt really be a point in caldari scouts to have bonus to scanners because, howmany scouts out of every scout, actually successfully get underthe 15 dB scanner? id give it 10% at most. maybe theyll get a bons to some new mechanic ccp will add later.

Pretty sure they don't
Nova Knives have a devastating melee attack but I do not think it applies to charge shots. So NK damage is only relevant to the Minni if you use it's melee function.

People use Min's and Nova's because of the min's speed

I do rather hope we will have some more ewar options in future. On scanners however, it's not just the scan strength there is mark duration, scan range, recharge, fittings etc.

If scouts were actually used in PC (stealth scouts at that) Caldari scouts would be OP if they had active scan precision bonus. That's a weird and pointless irony I guess...