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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.17 18:57:00 -
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sorry if i make a few spelling errors. im on ps vita and its touch keyboard is kind of lame. anyway, any date on when this will be released. ive been wanting this for so long and even did a little speculation on it. you know how the gallente scout has 1 high and 4 lows? well i figure caldari would be the opposite with 4 highs and 1 low. this could be excellent for shield tank + regen combo. or a damage mod based fit, also with shielding. just thinking about it gets me excited. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:20:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:if you want a scout with four damage mods just get the Caldari assault.
Damage mod stacked caldari scout would be the most ridiculous, non-factor suit in the game.
when eWar comes out the Caldari will be a threat...or not. idk. not really. the scout would be faster, less profile and be able to use cloaking if and when it comes out |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:31:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Don't get your hopes up, unless they buff the crap out of scout stats in general I realized that this scout could suck the big one, complex shield s or dam mods plus guns is gonna beat the $hit out of your CPU an pg leaving the low slot for only a CPU chip upgrade, which means, no armor or repair ever, no speed, no range mods, and it won't even beat a basic scanner even with level 5 profile dampening as a passive, not to mention good friggen luck using any equipment or grenades, this suit will be a sitting duck if it's stats aren't properly in order when it's made. you have a point. i was thinking the base stats could be slightly higher than others to make up for the low slot loss, but not so muh higher that it becomes OP |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.17 19:43:00 -
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Brynjar Reko wrote:Keep in mind there's talk of buffing the current model scouts with anything from a second equip slot oh an extra high or low slot and a bit more CPU/pg, so if that comes into play then the Caldari might have more of a chance Juan you're thinking. 4 highs 2 lows. that sounds MUCH better |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.17 20:52:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:I already have a alt brewing on boosters for this fit, specializing in just nova knifes , and skilling up the suit to 5 all across the board with no points in suits or weapons, just a scanner an nk an remotes, making it so I have all passive abilities an the mods a scout needs, just running bpo an stacking tons of isk.
I hope they buff all the scouts by the time this suit drops, I believe it will be a force to be reckoned with if done propper, an a abomination if ccp flops awesome. i want to go prot in either gallente or minmatar scout, but as of now im saving my 2,000,000 sp for 1.5 |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.17 21:19:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Does anybody have any idea what it's racial bonus could be? I've sat here looking a modules and there are only 2 real scout modules available for high slots. Precision enhancers and damage modifiers. So given that you are trying to make a "scout fit", there would be no point in Shield Regens, because scouts have hyper regen anyways. The only viable fitting would be shield tank or damage mods. They'll have terrible scan abilities and no ability to speed tank, I can only see the Caldari Scout as a faster lesser Caldari Assault. it could have significantly less shield regen delay than the assault. its level could be -5% shield regen delay pe level or +5% shotgun damage per level, kind of like minnie scouts. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.17 22:05:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:130 shields and 70 armor.
-XOXO with very little shield regen delay |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.18 03:59:00 -
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take into consideration a few things. 1. ccp has had much more time to think about this one, so it may not simply mirror the gallente scout 2. the bonus could be (as previously stated) +5% shotgun damage or -5% shield regen delay. this would surely separate it from the gal. scout 3. it would be fair because while they wont have the penalty to movment speed they wont have the OPTION to speed tank. this whole thing works espcially well when taking into consideration the shield depleted recharge time. this could literally be the difference between life or death. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.18 04:38:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:dustwaffle wrote:My vision for the Caldari scout:
Ewar heavy platform, good passive scan, possible bonuses to scanners and/or ewar, much lower EHP than Caldari assault, faster than assaults but slower than other races' scouts, possibly slightly tankier than the other scouts as well? This very much this, TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:take into consideration a few things. 1. ccp has had much more time to think about this one, so it may not simply mirror the gallente scout 2. the bonus could be (as previously stated) +5% shotgun damage or -5% shield regen delay. this would surely separate it from the gal. scout 3. it would be fair because while they wont have the penalty to movment speed they wont have the OPTION to speed tank. this whole thing works espcially well when taking into consideration the shield depleted recharge time. this could literally be the difference between life or death. Hell no, one weapon bonus makes for crappy gameplay especially for a gallentean weapon on a caldari platform is about as low of a suggestion one can go. And shield regen delay is so short that the % means nothing, especially for the low eph of the scout. arent the nova knives gallente? i may be wrong, but assuming im right, the minmatar scout gets +nova knife dmg, so who is to say that+ SG dmg is "as low of a suggestion as one can go" as of now the caldari dont even have their form of an assault rifle, so what other weapon could they get bonus dmg to? the minmatar scout isnt bad and is often used for its bonus NK dmg, so what makes bonus SG dmg so bad? |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.18 04:53:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: arent the nova knives gallente? i may be wrong, but assuming im right, the minmatar scout gets +nova knife dmg, so who is to say that+ SG dmg is "as low of a suggestion as one can go" as of now the caldari dont even have their form of an assault rifle, so what other weapon could they get bonus dmg to? the minmatar scout isnt bad and is often used for its bonus NK dmg, so what makes bonus SG dmg so bad?
You are very misinformed dear Nova Knives = Caldari Minmatar Scout gets + Melee damage, Nova Knives are sidearm! ill admit i may be wrong about the race, but minmatar scout DEFINITELY gets bonus NK and melee dmg per level. |
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
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Posted - 2013.09.18 10:50:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:I can only see the Scout as a faster lesser Assault. Fixed... Seriously though, I alway figured Caldari would have ewar bonuses - but there isn't much in the way of ewar - if Caldari get a bonus to active scanners, ill be kinda pissed because then they would be the only scout with an effective bonus to scouting. I wouldn't be surprised if they have the Caldari scout recharge delay or sniper bonus though, since CCP aren't sure what scouts are for. OR...and this may be a touch too logical here; when they release the other scouts they will fix all scouts at the same time - it makes sense they will balance new scouts against the new/improved version of current scouts. Like I said - there seems to be too much logic for that to ever happen. Also agree that if only one scout gets two slots, it'd be Amarr. this really is a tough one. there wouldnt really be a point in caldari scouts to have bonus to scanners because, howmany scouts out of every scout, actually successfully get underthe 15 dB scanner? id give it 10% at most. maybe theyll get a bons to some new mechanic ccp will add later. |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
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Posted - 2013.09.18 22:47:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: ill admit i may be wrong about the race, but minmatar scout DEFINITELY gets bonus NK and melee dmg per level.
Pretty sure they don't Nova Knives have a devastating melee attack but I do not think it applies to charge shots. So NK damage is only relevant to the Minni if you use it's melee function. People use Min's and Nova's because of the min's speed it would appear you are terribly misinformed, or are a gallente scout, because it definitely gets bonus NK dmg. i double checked today. any minnie scout will tell you the same. |
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