So far I've heard of the bolt (minmatar) and ion (gallente?) pistols - anyone know what the caldari pistol is?

I'm really looking forward to the variants and hopeful that they're coming in 1.5.

One question though: whenever they do come, will all pistols get the current headshot bonus or is that exclusive to the scrambler pistol?

Pretty sure the bolt is Caldari not Minmatar.

Flaylock is minmatar

Cheers guys, my mistake.

The 450% headshot bonus will be an exclusive to the scrambler pistol, as it is actually part of the tech. The flaylock pistol already has the bonus of splash damage. The ion pistol will have a charge up feature. I am not sure what the special thing about the bolt pistol is.

The 450% headshot bonus will be an exclusive to the scrambler pistol, as it is actually part of the tech. The flaylock pistol already has the bonus of splash damage. The ion pistol will have a charge up feature. I am not sure what the special thing about the bolt pistol is.

If I remember correctly the bolt is supposed to be very high damage. I believe the exact quote was the "Desert Eagle" of Dust 514.

If I remember correctly the bolt is supposed to be very high damage. I believe the exact quote was the "Desert Eagle" of Dust 514.

If I remember correctly the bolt is supposed to be very high damage. I believe the exact quote was the "Desert Eagle" of Dust 514.

If I remember correctly the bolt is supposed to be very high damage. I believe the exact quote was the "Desert Eagle" of Dust 514.

Scramblr is already pretty hard hitting...I can't imagine how much dmg the bolt will do

Scramblr is already pretty hard hitting...I can't imagine how much dmg the bolt will do

The 450% headshot bonus will be an exclusive to the scrambler pistol, as it is actually part of the tech. The flaylock pistol already has the bonus of splash damage. The ion pistol will have a charge up feature. I am not sure what the special thing about the bolt pistol is.

This is what pisses me off. I like weapon variations but then they're all like "Yo we're placeholders" and no one has any solid proof, mostly basis on lore.

People say Caldari will be based on Breach weaponry, but then those same people are all like "Rail tech is long range". That's a damn oxymoron.

Secondly, the true Scrambler Pistol is the tactical variant? No one would use that, because the IA5 is subpar to the other variants.

This is what pisses me off. I like weapon variations but then they're all like "Yo we're placeholders" and no one has any solid proof, mostly basis on lore.

People say Caldari will be based on Breach weaponry, but then those same people are all like "Rail tech is long range". That's a damn oxymoron.

Secondly, the true Scrambler Pistol is the tactical variant? No one would use that, because the IA5 is subpar to the other variants.

It might have a scope. Just think about it: a long range pistol with a high power bullet, and attached is a scope.

So far I've heard of the bolt (minmatar?) and ion (gallente?) pistols - anyone know what the caldari pistol is?
*edit turns out the flaylock is the minmatar pistol and the bolt pistol is actually caldari.

I'm really looking forward to the variants and hopeful that they're coming in 1.5.

One question though: whenever they do come, will all pistols get the current headshot bonus or is that exclusive to the scrambler pistol?

Fanfest said:
Ion bolt pistol - Gallente
Rail pistol - Caldari
Flaylock pistol- Minmatar
Scrambler pistol - Amarr

This is what pisses me off. I like weapon variations but then they're all like "Yo we're placeholders" and no one has any solid proof, mostly basis on lore.

People say Caldari will be based on Breach weaponry, but then those same people are all like "Rail tech is long range". That's a damn oxymoron.

Secondly, the true Scrambler Pistol is the tactical variant? No one would use that, because the IA5 is subpar to the other variants.

You want solid proof?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=870299#post870299
There you go, posted 3 and a half months ago. Caldari is based on breach and will have range, yes. And the weapon variations are not placeholders.

Also, the scrambler pistol is the "tactical" version of the four racial pistols, but of course as you stated there is also a version of the pistol that's actually called the tactical scrambler pistol. One thing looking at the stats of that weapon won't tell you is that is has about a 2x zoom when you ADS which is very helpful.

What I am thinking is that the Cal use two different techs (out side of missiles of course): Rail tech (long range), and plasma tech (short range). When they say "bolt pistol" I imagine it being plasma based, like a lighting bolt, not rail based, because a short range railgun just makes no since what so ever. This is of course just speculation.

I never noticed 2x zoom in ADS with it but I guess I'll throw away a couple suits to see if do notice.
Ok so why are all the Breach variants short ranged when they mimic the caldari long range?

My guess is that CCP is looking to get some data on lower ROF with higher damage per shot in CQC, but that only makes a little bit of sense.

I suppose what it comes down to is "cuz CCP". Sometime there aren't any good answers.

Ok, so I believe where both of you are getting messed up is you are assuming that the breach AR is just a placeholder for the Caldari breach rifle and the pistol will operate under similar mechanics. This is not true. The breach AR mimics the Caldari breach style, but not as well. Using this source and the one I already gave you,
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/

The Caldari Rail Rifle and Caldari Bolt Pistol will be breach in the sense of low RoF high damage, but will also have the longest range in their respective weapon categories.

So the Scrambler Pistol rewards accuracy (Amarr)
The Flaylock rewards inaccuracy (Minmatar)
The Ion will charge up, rewards patience (Gallente)
By the train of thought, the Caldari Bolt Pistol reward impatience, so maybe it has the fastest RoF?

That is scary to say the least because I have been using the Breach AR and Breach Pistol in CQC very effectively. If the same idea applies to a weapon with more range, that thing will be scary to go against, because as I have found already, Breach weapons are for the most part beasts and in their respective range.

They would need to make it operate best at long range and worst at short range so we wouldn't end up with a clusterfuck on our hands.

I'm going to have a pile of SP saved up for the rail rifle. I'm all but sure it's going to be the source of massive amounts of QQ.

A scanner combined with a RR is going to be a heck of a combo.