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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:12:00 -
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The 450% headshot bonus will be an exclusive to the scrambler pistol, as it is actually part of the tech. The flaylock pistol already has the bonus of splash damage. The ion pistol will have a charge up feature. I am not sure what the special thing about the bolt pistol is. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1768
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:25:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The 450% headshot bonus will be an exclusive to the scrambler pistol, as it is actually part of the tech. The flaylock pistol already has the bonus of splash damage. The ion pistol will have a charge up feature. I am not sure what the special thing about the bolt pistol is. If I remember correctly the bolt is supposed to be very high damage. I believe the exact quote was the "Desert Eagle" of Dust 514.
Ah yes, that is correct. When going through the weapons, each race dominates in one of the four categories
Tactical: Amarr
Assault: Gallente
Burst: Minmatar
Breach: Caldari
So scrambler pistol is more of the tactical, single shots rewarding accuracy like you said. Minmatar is burst, which granted the flaylock isn't really a burst weapon but it is a burst of DPS in a sense. I'm assuming the ion pistol will have a high RoF and a quick charge up time but unable to hold the charge, and then the bolt pistol will be a low RoF but high damage. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1768
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:25:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Ignoble Son wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The 450% headshot bonus will be an exclusive to the scrambler pistol, as it is actually part of the tech. The flaylock pistol already has the bonus of splash damage. The ion pistol will have a charge up feature. I am not sure what the special thing about the bolt pistol is. If I remember correctly the bolt is supposed to be very high damage. I believe the exact quote was the "Desert Eagle" of Dust 514. Scramblr is already pretty hard hitting...I can't imagine how much dmg the bolt will do
Take the breach scrambler pistol and add just a little more oomph and range. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1768
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:49:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:This is what pisses me off. I like weapon variations but then they're all like "Yo we're placeholders" and no one has any solid proof, mostly basis on lore.
People say Caldari will be based on Breach weaponry, but then those same people are all like "Rail tech is long range". That's a damn oxymoron.
Secondly, the true Scrambler Pistol is the tactical variant? No one would use that, because the IA5 is subpar to the other variants.
You want solid proof?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=870299#post870299
There you go, posted 3 and a half months ago. Caldari is based on breach and will have range, yes. And the weapon variations are not placeholders.
Also, the scrambler pistol is the "tactical" version of the four racial pistols, but of course as you stated there is also a version of the pistol that's actually called the tactical scrambler pistol. One thing looking at the stats of that weapon won't tell you is that is has about a 2x zoom when you ADS which is very helpful. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1768
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:50:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The 450% headshot bonus will be an exclusive to the scrambler pistol, as it is actually part of the tech. The flaylock pistol already has the bonus of splash damage. The ion pistol will have a charge up feature. I am not sure what the special thing about the bolt pistol is. It might have a scope. Just think about it: a long range pistol with a high power bullet, and attached is a scope.
I could see that happening. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.09.16 19:57:00 -
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Evolution-7 wrote:Django Quik wrote:So far I've heard of the bolt (minmatar?) and ion (gallente?) pistols - anyone know what the caldari pistol is?
*edit turns out the flaylock is the minmatar pistol and the bolt pistol is actually caldari.
I'm really looking forward to the variants and hopeful that they're coming in 1.5.
One question though: whenever they do come, will all pistols get the current headshot bonus or is that exclusive to the scrambler pistol? Fanfest said: Ion bolt pistol - Gallente Rail pistol - Caldari Flaylock pistol- Minmatar Scrambler pistol - Amarr
Rail pistol has since been renamed the bolt pistol, and it was ever only just Ion pistol for Gallente. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1769
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Posted - 2013.09.16 20:06:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:This is what pisses me off. I like weapon variations but then they're all like "Yo we're placeholders" and no one has any solid proof, mostly basis on lore.
People say Caldari will be based on Breach weaponry, but then those same people are all like "Rail tech is long range". That's a damn oxymoron.
Secondly, the true Scrambler Pistol is the tactical variant? No one would use that, because the IA5 is subpar to the other variants. What I am thinking is that the Cal use two different techs (out side of missiles of course): Rail tech (long range), and plasma tech (short range). When they say "bolt pistol" I imagine it being plasma based, like a lighting bolt, not rail based, because a short range railgun just makes no since what so ever. This is of course just speculation. Caldari doesn't do plasma, that's a Gallente thing.
Bojo The Mighty wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:You want solid proof? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=870299#post870299There you go, posted 3 and a half months ago. Caldari is based on breach and will have range, yes. And the weapon variations are not placeholders. Also, the scrambler pistol is the "tactical" version of the four racial pistols, but of course as you stated there is also a version of the pistol that's actually called the tactical scrambler pistol. One thing looking at the stats of that weapon won't tell you is that is has about a 2x zoom when you ADS which is very helpful. I never noticed 2x zoom in ADS with it but I guess I'll throw away a couple suits to see if do notice. Ok so why are all the Breach variants short ranged when they mimic the caldari long range?
Ok, so I believe where both of you are getting messed up is you are assuming that the breach AR is just a placeholder for the Caldari breach rifle and the pistol will operate under similar mechanics. This is not true. The breach AR mimics the Caldari breach style, but not as well. Using this source and the one I already gave you,
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/
The Caldari Rail Rifle and Caldari Bolt Pistol will be breach in the sense of low RoF high damage, but will also have the longest range in their respective weapon categories. |
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