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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:01:00 -
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Pulling AA without notice nor explanation is troubling. It took you months to come up with a solution, and you implemented AA, to mitigate the grotesque inbalance between KB and DS3. Pulling AA has made that inequality even greater, specifically in regards to uncapped rotational speed for the mouse.
What is your plan? When can we expect to hear about it? Are the KB'ers still going to get their controls buffed visa vie manual settings? Why? and who? made the decision to pull AA? Does CCP think that the pounding that DS3 users take day in and day out make for good entertainment? MIce have a huge aim advantage and the WASD dance is stupid-Left-Right, but no middle! Is this fair to the DS3 population.?
Should DS3 players spend any more money to support CCP until this is disparity is fixed?
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
269
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:03:00 -
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lol, kb/m is utter crap in this game. Seriously, im a gamepad user through and through but try keyboard and mouse in this game then go and try it on a PC FPS. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1082
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:04:00 -
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DS3 users should be able to manage... |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:06:00 -
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Did they completly scrap it, because damn im a good shot with a laser rifle otherwise!! |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:08:00 -
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I've been playing FPS since they where only over IPX, and Ghost Recon was on every dorm computer at West Point-so my experience more than yours
My 15 year old is set up with mouse and keyboard for DUST and I have tried it is so much easier-maybe you need a better mouse. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
2
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:10:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:DS3 users should be able to manage...
Spoken like a true mouse. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1756
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:11:00 -
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Did they pull AA? Because I was playing a few hours ago and still noticed it.
Also I've been playing actively since open beta and used the DS3 the whole time. I still can't tell who uses a mouse and who uses a controller. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:14:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Did they pull AA? Because I was playing a few hours ago and still noticed it.
Also I've been playing actively since open beta and used the DS3 the whole time. I still can't tell who uses a mouse and who uses a controller.
I heard they toned it down a little, I can run across 20m of open terrain without being butchered, its refreshing!! |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
2
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:17:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Did they pull AA? Because I was playing a few hours ago and still noticed it.
Also I've been playing actively since open beta and used the DS3 the whole time. I still can't tell who uses a mouse and who uses a controller.
Well here is a secret, look at the top players in DUST, go to PSNprofiles.com and be amazed how few of them have any PS3 FPS experience; and when you want to drill down on let say a BF3 player go to bf3stats.com and look up their stats with thier psn id. They are good at dust because they stomp on little kids and then beat their chests. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
269
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:17:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:I've been playing FPS since they where only over IPX, and Ghost Recon was on every dorm computer at West Point-so my experience more than yours
My 15 year old is set up with mouse and keyboard for DUST and I have tried it is so much easier-maybe you need a better mouse.
lol @ 15 y/o
Maybe time to upgrade
This game has no raw feedback. Its a big flaw and any mouse user can tell you think. I use kb/mouse for MMO's and RTS on PC (while I use a gamepad for PC FPS) and the kb/m support in this game is ****. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1447
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:17:00 -
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It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:21:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:I've been playing FPS since they where only over IPX, and Ghost Recon was on every dorm computer at West Point-so my experience more than yours
My 15 year old is set up with mouse and keyboard for DUST and I have tried it is so much easier-maybe you need a better mouse. lol @ 15 y/o Maybe time to upgrade This game has no raw feedback. Its a big flaw and any mouse user can tell you think. I use kb/mouse for MMO's and RTS on PC (while I use a gamepad for PC FPS) and the kb/m support in this game is ****.
Go Away.
If you do not or cannot understand just go away. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
734
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:21:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:lol, kb/m is utter crap in this game. Seriously, im a gamepad user through and through but try keyboard and mouse in this game then go and try it on a PC FPS.
I must be the only who doesn't have that much problems with K/M. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
2
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:22:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse.
KBM vs DS3 is a cheat, it is a cheat on every unsuspecting PSN user that financialy supports this travesty! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:23:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse.
Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist) |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
2
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:25:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist)
Mine is and has been around 1.0 since day one of playing against these scrub noobs called dusters. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1448
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:28:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist)
You know that is not the problem.. How well you do against an AR with the aim-assist on and their optimal range ? And don't say FINE, because i will call you a troll. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1082
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:29:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Michael Arck wrote:DS3 users should be able to manage... Spoken like a true mouse.
What does that mean? |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
270
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:30:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:I've been playing FPS since they where only over IPX, and Ghost Recon was on every dorm computer at West Point-so my experience more than yours
My 15 year old is set up with mouse and keyboard for DUST and I have tried it is so much easier-maybe you need a better mouse. lol @ 15 y/o Maybe time to upgrade This game has no raw feedback. Its a big flaw and any mouse user can tell you think. I use kb/mouse for MMO's and RTS on PC (while I use a gamepad for PC FPS) and the kb/m support in this game is ****. Go Away. If you do not or cannot understand just go away.
Maybe you should try having your sensitivity maxed out and it still being slow.
Since most console gamers understand CoD, the max sensitivity in that is 10 and THATS slow, dusts 100 is like playing CoD on defult settings while being high. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:30:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist) Mine is and has been around 1.0 since day one of playing against these scrub noobs called dusters.
Fair enough, im now hoping to improve, I took a while to work up from 0.18 after my first 12 matches out of the academy!! Aim Assist is important, it should create a floor for skill level, so even noobs feel like they are useful! However I also think CCP purposedly tried to eliminate the texas 2 step which I see so so many kb/m users do!! |
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
2
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:31:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist) You know that is not the problem.. How well you do against an AR with the aim-assist on and their optimal range ? And don't say FINE, because i will call you a troll.
Hijacking this thread into some dismal comaprison is not what I started it.
I want CCP to answer a simple series of questions. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1757
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:31:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Did they pull AA? Because I was playing a few hours ago and still noticed it.
Also I've been playing actively since open beta and used the DS3 the whole time. I still can't tell who uses a mouse and who uses a controller. Well here is a secret, look at the top players in DUST, go to PSNprofiles.com and be amazed how few of them have any PS3 FPS experience; and when you want to drill down on let say a BF3 player go to bf3stats.com and look up their stats with thier psn id. They are good at dust because they stomp on little kids and then beat their chests. I've never felt the need to look that deeply into anyone's profile. Whenever I get stomped by someone, I just accept they were the better player and/or had the better fit. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:33:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist) You know that is not the problem.. How well you do against an AR with the aim-assist on and their optimal range ? And don't say FINE, because i will call you a troll.
In open ground I am a goner, but I use a mass driver so I stick to the citadels mostly, however if I do come across a ar, my burst scrambler pistol makes short work of them!! |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
2
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:34:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:I've been playing FPS since they where only over IPX, and Ghost Recon was on every dorm computer at West Point-so my experience more than yours
My 15 year old is set up with mouse and keyboard for DUST and I have tried it is so much easier-maybe you need a better mouse. lol @ 15 y/o Maybe time to upgrade This game has no raw feedback. Its a big flaw and any mouse user can tell you think. I use kb/mouse for MMO's and RTS on PC (while I use a gamepad for PC FPS) and the kb/m support in this game is ****. Go Away. If you do not or cannot understand just go away. Maybe you should try having your sensitivity maxed out and it still being slow. Since most console gamers understand CoD, the max sensitivity in that is 10 and THATS slow, dusts 100 is like playing CoD on defult settings while being high.
Let me state this directly-I have many more years of FPS experience than you and am much more technical than you can imagine. I do not want nor need simplistic rationalizations I want CCP to answer my questions! |
Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:34:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Did they completly scrap it, because damn im a good shot with a laser rifle otherwise!!
No they did not scrap it, just toned it down as was mentioned earlier. I still notice it sometimes, but it is much more subtle now (as it should be IMHO).
Can't speak of kb/m vs DS3 since I have not tried both
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
2
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:35:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Did they completly scrap it, because damn im a good shot with a laser rifle otherwise!! No they did not scrap it, just toned it down as was mentioned earlier. I still notice it sometimes, but it is much more subtle now (as it should be IMHO). Can't speak of kb/m vs DS3 since I have not tried both
You should try KB/m your KDR will improve. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1448
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:36:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist) You know that is not the problem.. How well you do against an AR with the aim-assist on and their optimal range ? And don't say FINE, because i will call you a troll. In open ground I am a goner, but I use a mass driver so I stick to the citadels mostly, however if I do come across a ar, my burst scrambler pistol makes short work of them!!
I just trying to make you see WHO wants the aim-assist as it is and WHY. Like you said, is only few weapons that benefit from the aim-assist. I use the Sniper Rifle and SCR pistol myself, so i don't really need the AA. |
dustwaffle
Commando Perkone Caldari State
521
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:36:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist) Mine is and has been around 1.0 since day one of playing against these scrub noobs called dusters. lolwat
I'm a horrible player, have no aim, run logi suits and focus on doing logi stuff, and still manage a KDR of around 1.75.
Guess if you can only manage a 1.0 kdr against 'scrub noobs called dusters', you should really, really, really learn to play
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:38:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:It was something fundamentally wrong with the AA, to the point that was practically a "cheat" instead of an "aid". It suppose to help you to aim, not aim for you. You know something is wrong when everyone "not" using the aim-assist gets annihilated, DS3 or Mouse. Blimey I must be some kind of mutant, I turned aim assist off, now my kdr was 0.75 before .4 now its 1.00 exactly, hmm!! (I run a 500 ehp Miniassault with Mass Driver and Burst Scrambler Pistol, my kills with scrambler pistol have tripled since .4, still with no aim assist) Mine is and has been around 1.0 since day one of playing against these scrub noobs called dusters. lolwat I'm a horrible player, have no aim, run logi suits and focus on doing logi stuff, and still manage a KDR of around 1.75. Guess if you can only manage a 1.0 kdr against 'scrub noobs called dusters', you should really, really, really learn to play
Did you consider he might be a scout? |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
270
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Posted - 2013.09.16 09:40:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:I've been playing FPS since they where only over IPX, and Ghost Recon was on every dorm computer at West Point-so my experience more than yours
My 15 year old is set up with mouse and keyboard for DUST and I have tried it is so much easier-maybe you need a better mouse. lol @ 15 y/o Maybe time to upgrade This game has no raw feedback. Its a big flaw and any mouse user can tell you think. I use kb/mouse for MMO's and RTS on PC (while I use a gamepad for PC FPS) and the kb/m support in this game is ****. Go Away. If you do not or cannot understand just go away. Maybe you should try having your sensitivity maxed out and it still being slow. Since most console gamers understand CoD, the max sensitivity in that is 10 and THATS slow, dusts 100 is like playing CoD on defult settings while being high. Let me state this directly-I have many more years of FPS experience than you and am much more technical than you can imagine. I do not want nor need simplistic rationalizations I want CCP to answer my questions!
Well... thats where you're wrong, you see, iv been playing FPSs feverently since 1996 when Quake came out. 17 years ago |
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