there are plenty of passive skills to spec into that serve you well regardless of what suit/weapon you use... If you don't have them to 5 then your selling yourself short....

also, even if you spec into something that eventually gets nerfed, so what? you just get more sp to spec into other things....

however if you see this game as a boring grind, and you don't enjoy the matches, and your not enjoying the journey, then this isn't the game for you...

if you just play and have fun, you will eventually have enough sp to get everything.

Pro tip: Let other people spec into what you're thinking of spec'ing in. I could of told you from looking at the stats that scouts sucked man. Sorry for your lost.

Or be a real 'pro' and don't give two ***** what the stats look like. Make garbage work for you. #1 rule of the game is don't play by anyone's rules.

Of coarse the game is deceiving. It's a living breathing game. This isn't Bf3 or CoD where they add in everything and don't patch it for months on end. One patch may hit the gun you spec into and force you to change your game play. Only thing to say about that is get good.

Yep.
I've been with ****** Gallente Suits since Uprising and guess what, I've turned that garbage into something decent and now....Holy ****, now armour is viable and bitches are feeling my pent up wrath.

i love how you guys are trying to tell a pro what to do. He knows what hes doing far more then all of you. Its more of him telling everyone what he thinks of the current way things are changing.

if he was so pro he wouldn't have made this thread... pros don't QQ, they adapt and kick a$$

on that note... you are pro ive died to your knives a dozen times in one game lol... and you don't QQ...

Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.

there are plenty of passive skills to spec into that serve you well regardless of what suit/weapon you use... If you don't have them to 5 then your selling yourself short....

also, even if you spec into something that eventually gets nerfed, so what? you just get more sp to spec into other things....

however if you see this game as a boring grind, and you don't enjoy the matches, and your not enjoying the journey, then this isn't the game for you...

if you just play and have fun, you will eventually have enough sp to get everything.

Sinking a mil SP into a level 5 of some of those (basic) skills just to get +3 or 5% extra is selling yourself short. With that logic he may as well dump things into UP weapons or suits in hopes of them becoming useful in some uncertain future.

Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.

Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.

Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.

Do people think or read at all? And do you really think i have 23 mil sp without core upgrades maxed? And all that sp in only one suit and weapon? Forums -_- you guys dont seize to amaze.

Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.

This is why you should spec into what you enjoy. If you like the idea of a Scout, be thankful that you specced into it. CCP isn't going to let obvious imbalances lie. They'll work and do what must be done to make all suits, weapons, etc., viable. So yes, to you, your scout choices may be limited now, but think creatively about being a scout. I've seen more scouts since 1.4 and the squad view changes, and with knives or a shotgun, they can be absolutely deadly. It's about picking your engagements and realizing you're not a commando.

The next thing--and I see people arguing this all the time--is it doesn't take speccing fully into proto in order to "test" something. You can get away with a very cheap sp investment (even just up to Advanced) to get a good feel for how weapons, suits, modules, etc., play and feel together. Once you know that, you can then decide how you want to truly specialize, and that's when you go proto.

Do people think or read at all? And do you really think i have 23 mil sp without core upgrades maxed? And all that sp in only one suit and weapon? Forums -_- you guys dont seize to amaze.

If you come to the fore asking for advice you're gonna get it.

It's just lke drop suits ingame,
"Don't ask the question if you can't stand to get the answer."

"Since you're the one who (fielded Proto Armor/asked a question) you can't complain when (you die/it gets answered)."
Yadda yadda...

Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.

Never asked for your advise nor need it.

Everything is subject to nerfs, including core skills. Still core skills are your best bet.

DUST is still in early beta mode so we will continue to have fundamental changes for some time to come.

True support Logis are getting a major equipment nerf soon and vehicles are getting a complete rework next month.
We just roll with it.

I figure I'll have the majority of the skill tree filled out by the time we get some stability and then it won't matter.

Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.

i love how you guys are trying to tell a pro what to do. He knows what hes doing far more then all of you. Its more of him telling everyone what he thinks of the current way things are changing.

This is why you should spec into what you enjoy. If you like the idea of a Scout, be thankful that you specced into it. CCP isn't going to let obvious imbalances lie. They'll work and do what must be done to make all suits, weapons, etc., viable. So yes, to you, your scout choices may be limited now, but think creatively about being a scout. I've seen more scouts since 1.4 and the squad view changes, and with knives or a shotgun, they can be absolutely deadly. It's about picking your engagements and realizing you're not a commando.

The next thing--and I see people arguing this all the time--is it doesn't take speccing fully into proto in order to "test" something. You can get away with a very cheap sp investment (even just up to Advanced) to get a good feel for how weapons, suits, modules, etc., play and feel together. Once you know that, you can then decide how you want to truly specialize, and that's when you go proto.

I'm just waiting for 1.5 to spend my SP. New Infantry weapons on top of reworked vehicles and turrets.

Not spending a single SP until 1.5 gets here (1st or Second week of October)

Looks like your memory is suffering.

You said you are "afraid to put SP into things" because you have "no idea what to spec into" on these forums that's the equivalent of asking a question: "What do I spec into?"

If you honestly think your post wasn't accepted as a question, why did people respond?
The answer is that many questions presented to these forums are often irrationally worded or even are devoid if a question mark in their entirety, but they are still questions.

Thus when a topic comes along that so blatantly falls onto the question category, people answer it.

Giant heavy laser *crosses fingers*

skill points all saved up for that lol

"Pros don't QQ"

Please, pros QQ about everything.

Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.

Not all true...the prof. for the weapons are very costly and very meaningful. Laser with prof. 3 or higher...very different. So it takes skilling up past proto to really get the weapon. You can feel it at lower levels but for intense PC play everyone has prof. 3 or higher and to know if that is the weapon you want may take skilling...but I regress...CCP says it makes sense to change any thing. This is the problem. You can test, spec into further... then boom. Nerf. All SP spent in vain. Harden up?

ps suits? cheap SP...the racial variants? Cheap?