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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
372
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:03:00 -
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Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
910
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:08:00 -
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there are plenty of passive skills to spec into that serve you well regardless of what suit/weapon you use... If you don't have them to 5 then your selling yourself short....
also, even if you spec into something that eventually gets nerfed, so what you just get more sp to spec into other things....
however if you see this game as a boring grind, and you don't enjoy the matches, and your not enjoying the journey, then this isn't the game for you...
if you just play and have fun, you will eventually have enough sp to get everything. |
Benjamin Ciscko
S.e.V.e.N.
31
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:12:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:there are plenty of passive skills to spec into that serve you well regardless of what suit/weapon you use... If you don't have them to 5 then your selling yourself short....
also, even if you spec into something that eventually gets nerfed, so what? you just get more sp to spec into other things....
however if you see this game as a boring grind, and you don't enjoy the matches, and your not enjoying the journey, then this isn't the game for you...
if you just play and have fun, you will eventually have enough sp to get everything.
7 years later just 10 million more sp... |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:16:00 -
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Sample the equipment. That's what I do for everything. You can usually tell if something is going to be nerfed if it is far too easy to kill with.
Anyway, get all your core skills to about 3-4 and a bit into the AR because that is the mainstay for midline combat in this game and it won't get battered around too much. (Recently it got boosted, and the upcoming drop will hopefully return it to its former position) |
Radar R4D-47
0uter.Heaven
194
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:19:00 -
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i love how you guys are trying to tell a pro what to do. He knows what hes doing far more then all of you. Its more of him telling everyone what he thinks of the current way things are changing. |
Dust Project 514
DUST's Not Fun Anymore
285
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:35:00 -
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Spec into dropsuit ability upgrades, first; Before considering weapons and suits.
if we get a respec (and if I still care to play), that's going to be the first thing I do.
Too much regret, thanks to changes, being made. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1683
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:37:00 -
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I'm just waiting for 1.5 to spend my SP. New Infantry weapons on top of reworked vehicles and turrets.
Not spending a single SP until 1.5 gets here (1st or Second week of October) |
Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
356
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:42:00 -
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Pro tip: Let other people spec into what you're thinking of spec'ing in. I could of told you from looking at the stats that scouts sucked man. Sorry for your lost.
Or be a real 'pro' and don't give two ***** what the stats look like. Make garbage work for you. #1 rule of the game is don't play by anyone's rules.
Of coarse the game is deceiving. It's a living breathing game. This isn't Bf3 or CoD where they add in everything and don't patch it for months on end. One patch may hit the gun you spec into and force you to change your game play. Only thing to say about that is get good. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1683
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Posted - 2013.09.15 19:46:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:Pro tip: Let other people spec into what you're thinking of spec'ing in. I could of told you from looking at the stats that scouts sucked man. Sorry for your lost.
Or be a real 'pro' and don't give two ***** what the stats look like. Make garbage work for you. #1 rule of the game is don't play by anyone's rules.
Of coarse the game is deceiving. It's a living breathing game. This isn't Bf3 or CoD where they add in everything and don't patch it for months on end. One patch may hit the gun you spec into and force you to change your game play. Only thing to say about that is get good.
Yep.
I've been with ****** Gallente Suits since Uprising and guess what, I've turned that garbage into something decent and now....Holy ****, now armour is viable and bitches are feeling my pent up wrath. |
Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
356
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:04:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Viktor Zokas wrote:Pro tip: Let other people spec into what you're thinking of spec'ing in. I could of told you from looking at the stats that scouts sucked man. Sorry for your lost.
Or be a real 'pro' and don't give two ***** what the stats look like. Make garbage work for you. #1 rule of the game is don't play by anyone's rules.
Of coarse the game is deceiving. It's a living breathing game. This isn't Bf3 or CoD where they add in everything and don't patch it for months on end. One patch may hit the gun you spec into and force you to change your game play. Only thing to say about that is get good. Yep. I've been with ****** Gallente Suits since Uprising and guess what, I've turned that garbage into something decent and now....Holy ****, now armour is viable and bitches are feeling my pent up wrath.
Gallente suits are probably the best suits in game, pre-armor patch and post armor patch. I almost spec'ed into them before I started playing they looked that good. The really high armor esp post patch makes them the best skirmishers in CQ. Along with armor reps can let them sustain in tight areas or for point defense for ages.
It's the best investment hands down if you enjoy the AR, don't let the haters and spreadsheet monkeys say otherwise.
However I was interested in amarr based weapons, so the amarr assault suit just made more sense. I armor tank mine with 1 rep on adv and the sustain in fights is amazing, I shutter to think how awesome it would be to have the lows that gallente have, I may do that for my alt. :P |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
5283
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:27:00 -
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Spec into Caldari assault and ARs, those will never get nerfed. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
912
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:39:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:i love how you guys are trying to tell a pro what to do. He knows what hes doing far more then all of you. Its more of him telling everyone what he thinks of the current way things are changing.
if he was so pro he wouldn't have made this thread... pros don't QQ, they adapt and kick a$$
on that note... you are pro ive died to your knives a dozen times in one game lol... and you don't QQ... |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers
EoN.
800
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:47:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Radar R4D-47 wrote:i love how you guys are trying to tell a pro what to do. He knows what hes doing far more then all of you. Its more of him telling everyone what he thinks of the current way things are changing. if he was so pro he wouldn't have made this thread... pros don't QQ, they adapt and kick a$$ on that note... you are pro ive died to your knives a dozen times in one game lol... and you don't QQ...
Actually we qq all the time |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1688
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:49:00 -
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"Pros don't QQ"
Please, pros QQ about everything. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
1664
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:53:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.
Well this game will constantly go through balancing passes. There will always be something that needs to be balanced whether that's buffing or nerfing. I suggest just specing into core skills if you don't want to spec heavily into weapons. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
499
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Posted - 2013.09.15 20:54:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:there are plenty of passive skills to spec into that serve you well regardless of what suit/weapon you use... If you don't have them to 5 then your selling yourself short....
also, even if you spec into something that eventually gets nerfed, so what? you just get more sp to spec into other things....
however if you see this game as a boring grind, and you don't enjoy the matches, and your not enjoying the journey, then this isn't the game for you...
if you just play and have fun, you will eventually have enough sp to get everything.
Sinking a mil SP into a level 5 of some of those (basic) skills just to get +3 or 5% extra is selling yourself short. With that logic he may as well dump things into UP weapons or suits in hopes of them becoming useful in some uncertain future. |
Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
1235
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:43:00 -
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Confirming. Vets have been crying about this game from the first moment we played it. That was over a year ago. :] |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1328
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:57:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Sinking a mil SP into a level 5 of some of those (basic) skills just to get +3 or 5% extra is selling yourself short. With that logic he may as well dump things into UP weapons or suits in hopes of them becoming useful in some uncertain future.
I don't know about that. If you plan on sticking around a while you want most of the core skills maxed out -- they apply to everything (apparently forever). However, yes, doing that will put a big dent in trying out new weapons and mods. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:01:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.
I hear ya, and that is really lame. 
I want to try something new but the system will totally gimp me to do it. |
lDocHollidayl
Ancient Exiles
257
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:28:00 -
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ANY changes to a skill or item (weapon etc) should always come with a respec. Asking players to predict the future is nonsense. Without respecs the game with its changes is grind by design. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8496
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:31:00 -
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Core upgrades. |
Our Deepest Regret
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:33:00 -
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Peyton Manning is the best QB in the game today, and he's the conductor of the QQ train. He gets on those referees like a horny terrier on his owner's leg. Pro's don't bend over and take it. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1487
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:44:00 -
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Pick a style you like, not one that gets you to the top of each match. Problem solved. |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
375
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Posted - 2013.09.15 22:48:00 -
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Do people think or read at all? And do you really think i have 23 mil sp without core upgrades maxed? And all that sp in only one suit and weapon? Forums -_- you guys dont seize to amaze. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1071
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Posted - 2013.09.15 23:11:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.
We need respecs indeed. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
987
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Posted - 2013.09.16 00:59:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.
It is difficult to plan ahead and I am bad at focusing on one skill. I am a logi and not very good so I have SP spread out all over the place. I have plenty of places to put SP so it isn't that bad for me. I wish there were more skills so the choices would be more difficult. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
528
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Posted - 2013.09.16 13:47:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Do people think or read at all? And do you really think i have 23 mil sp without core upgrades maxed? And all that sp in only one suit and weapon? Forums -_- you guys dont seize to amaze.
Try Amarr Logi |
Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
68
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:03:00 -
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I've specced into scouts this week, their extremely situational. OK I don't have the routes to travel 'down' yet, but I am fed up already with sneaking up on someone, them sneezing and the suit falls apart.
For some reason I do better with a pistol/SMG combo than shotty/sidearm . and the breach shotty variants are just ruddy horrible.. It's not right |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
947
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:06:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Too much grinding and too much changes. Proto'd a scout suit to find out its just absolute garbage and complete waste. Put 3 mil into tanks for them to just change altogether 2 months later (not saying 1.5 will ruin tanking) but fortunately i have been playing dust since beta and reaching almost 23 mil sp and had opportunity to experiment. Imo its utterly impossible at this stage in this "beta" to make a "careful" and "well planned" descision when spending skill points. Everything in this game is decieving. Id love to spec into new weapons that come out in the near future, but who knows it might be op and overcompensated with weird random generated numbers making it useless. Idk about anyone else, but im saving my sp for a very long time.
I just spec into things, if they nerf it I will make it work anyway.
if that's somehow impossible I really won't cry over the lost sp. |
Ninjanomyx
TeamPlayers
EoN.
325
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Posted - 2013.09.16 14:11:00 -
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Why is Dust University full of Duncecaps that may never graduate???
Why is IWS still an irrelevant Scrub???
Why do the Pros only play DUST on Wednesday???
Life questions we ponder......... |
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