DUST Search - What the Hell Happened EVE Side?

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Beld Errmon wrote:

Oswald Rehnquist wrote:

Also CCP is suffering from their own story telling, Caldari and the Amarr are suppose to represent right wing aspects our world and due to player preference the numbers of people participating in fw are very off balanced. The Caldari were faceless until Tibus Heath, and the Amarr already were given religion and slavery.

Pretty much entirely this.

All the cool kids wanna fight slavery or fight for democracy, very few wanna be fascist capitalists or religious nuts.

Theres probably also economic reasons as well, ppl have farmed up lots of LP and wanna cash in, I may be out of date but it used to be that controlling the FW systems raised your factions tier on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 offering great discounts on the LP you spend at the LP store, so powers that be have been saving up millions of LP and wanna cash it in at good rates.

Please, Tibus was a tyrant as worse as they come, friend among friends a enemy of everyone else.

Being faceless has what made the caldari so dangerous in the past mind you. All in the faith of the core of the immortal ideals to follow is far more productive than following the ideals of an insane man with no love for his nation.

As for FW things, there are no restrictions on equipment,.

Arx Ardashir wrote:

Well, 7 months ago you had near Minmatar domination on the WZ, then the Amarr pushed them back to around a 75%/25% split (A/M) for a couple of months, then it was a 50/50 split for a few months, and now it's back to the way it was and is merely waiting for another pendulum swing.

I can't speak for the Cal/Gal WZ, however.

FW sovereignty is all about a mixture of morale, burnouts, and LP farmers. Minmatar faction ships always sell well, so the core players get a lot of help plexing. AmarrMil has always been the smallest militia, thus most of the players who join it are looking for PvP against the larger MinMil. Truth be told, most AmarrMil just have no desire for plexing.

Plexing is like hacking an objective for 10+ min except you might never have a redberry come by.

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Aisha Ctarl Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1297	Posted - 2013.09.13 13:13:00 - [1] - Quote The Caldari and Amarr were effectively wiped out FW wise. I noticed that some of the worst blueberries in the history of mankind were fighting on the Amarr side in DUST FW, but what happened in EVE that led to the Amarr and Caldari collapse?
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 263	Posted - 2013.09.13 13:14:00 - [2] - Quote We only see dust side, not the eve side of the FW results, for all we know the Amarr militia still owns an entire......system.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 533	Posted - 2013.09.13 13:29:00 - [3] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: The Caldari and Amarr were effectively wiped out FW wise. I noticed that some of the worst blueberries in the history of mankind were fighting on the Amarr side in DUST FW, but what happened in EVE that led to the Amarr and Caldari collapse? simple: WINMATAR
Oswald Rehnquist Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 231	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:22:00 - [4] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: The Caldari and Amarr were effectively wiped out FW wise. I noticed that some of the worst blueberries in the history of mankind were fighting on the Amarr side in DUST FW, but what happened in EVE that led to the Amarr and Caldari collapse? CCP gave the Amarr and the Caldari the weakest pvp ships in the game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=255092 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1745357 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246976 http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1celju/caldari_ships_easier_to_skill_but_worse_than/ http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=2_36&page=6 Except Caldari ships are great for PVE Also CCP is suffering from their own story telling, Caldari and the Amarr are suppose to represent right wing aspects our world and due to player preference the numbers of people participating in fw are very off balanced. The Caldari were faceless until Tibus Heath, and the Amarr already were given religion and slavery. While people can use other ships most like to fw for the stronger ships they use to get even stronger versions of them.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1261	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:43:00 - [5] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: CCP gave the Amarr and the Caldari the weakest pvp ships in the game and they can only fly their racial ships according to the faction they are fighting for. Really crappy rule in my opinion. Oh, wait...
Selinate deux DUST University Ivy League 115	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:52:00 - [6] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: CCP gave the Amarr and the Caldari the weakest pvp ships in the game You mean you just don't know how to fit Amarr and Caldari ships for PvP, right?
Nihilus Warwick Pradox XVI 57	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:56:00 - [7] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: CCP gave the Amarr and the Caldari the weakest pvp ships in the game You mean you just don't know how to fit Amarr and Caldari ships for PvP, right? Sniper Cormorant/Merlin Ftw. Get a tackler, boom goes the dynamite.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8416	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:00:00 - [8] - Quote We should post some Lol Hellcats!
Beld Errmon Evocatius 858	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:05:00 - [9] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Also CCP is suffering from their own story telling, Caldari and the Amarr are suppose to represent right wing aspects our world and due to player preference the numbers of people participating in fw are very off balanced. The Caldari were faceless until Tibus Heath, and the Amarr already were given religion and slavery. Pretty much entirely this. All the cool kids wanna fight slavery or fight for democracy, very few wanna be fascist capitalists or religious nuts. Theres probably also economic reasons as well, ppl have farmed up lots of LP and wanna cash in, I may be out of date but it used to be that controlling the FW systems raised your factions tier on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 offering great discounts on the LP you spend at the LP store, so powers that be have been saving up millions of LP and wanna cash it in at good rates.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8416	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:08:00 - [10] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Also CCP is suffering from their own story telling, Caldari and the Amarr are suppose to represent right wing aspects our world and due to player preference the numbers of people participating in fw are very off balanced. The Caldari were faceless until Tibus Heath, and the Amarr already were given religion and slavery. Pretty much entirely this. All the cool kids wanna fight slavery or fight for democracy, very few wanna be fascist capitalists or religious nuts. Theres probably also economic reasons as well, ppl have farmed up lots of LP and wanna cash in, I may be out of date but it used to be that controlling the FW systems raised your factions tier on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 offering great discounts on the LP you spend at the LP store, so powers that be have been saving up millions of LP and wanna cash it in at good rates. Please, Tibus was a tyrant as worse as they come, friend among friends a enemy of everyone else.

Phoenix Archer 128 Better Hide R Die 218	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:09:00 - [11] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: CCP gave the Amarr and the Caldari the weakest pvp ships in the game You mean you just don't know how to fit Amarr and Caldari ships for PvP, right? I know Minmatar ships are really good for PvP...but Gallente? Sure, blaster fits are OK, but its just Kin/Therm damage, and they don't do anything past a few km... And for some reason I thought Caldari ships were 2nd best for PvP...really, really good PvE, but nothing to laugh at PvP (especially at range)
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 215	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:31:00 - [12] - Quote Well, 7 months ago you had near Minmatar domination on the WZ, then the Amarr pushed them back to around a 75%/25% split (A/M) for a couple of months, then it was a 50/50 split for a few months, and now it's back to the way it was and is merely waiting for another pendulum swing. I can't speak for the Cal/Gal WZ, however. FW sovereignty is all about a mixture of morale, burnouts, and LP farmers. Minmatar faction ships always sell well, so the core players get a lot of help plexing. AmarrMil has always been the smallest militia, thus most of the players who join it are looking for PvP against the larger MinMil. Truth be told, most AmarrMil just have no desire for plexing. Plexing is like hacking an objective for 10+ min except you might never have a redberry come by.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1154	Posted - 2013.09.13 15:50:00 - [13] - Quote Null doctrines =/= FW doctrines. Think frigate and cruiser hulls.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1035	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:31:00 - [14] - Quote I gotta start doing more FW.
Our Deepest Regret Algintal Core Gallente Federation 207	Posted - 2013.09.13 16:36:00 - [15] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Pretty much entirely this. All the cool kids wanna fight slavery or fight for democracy, very few wanna be fascist capitalists or religious nuts. Theres probably also economic reasons as well, ppl have farmed up lots of LP and wanna cash in, I may be out of date but it used to be that controlling the FW systems raised your factions tier on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 offering great discounts on the LP you spend at the LP store, so powers that be have been saving up millions of LP and wanna cash it in at good rates. It really depends on how you package it. In that star wars MMO, everyone wanted to play for the Sith Empire. Slavery, fascism, murder, cool armor. If CCP started an Amarr showcase portraying them as cool villains, you'd see mass defections in no time.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 3455	Posted - 2013.09.13 18:25:00 - [16] - Quote I remember hearing about a some kind of push from the minmatar a couple of weeks ago, as for the gallente I have no idea.
pamuku420tyme RedBerry Genocide 26	Posted - 2013.09.13 18:29:00 - [17] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: The Caldari and Amarr were effectively wiped out FW wise. I noticed that some of the worst blueberries in the history of mankind were fighting on the Amarr side in DUST FW, but what happened in EVE that led to the Amarr and Caldari collapse? CCP gave the Amarr and the Caldari the weakest pvp ships in the game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=255092 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1745357 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246976 http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1celju/caldari_ships_easier_to_skill_but_worse_than/ http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=2_36&page=6 Except Caldari ships are great for PVE Also CCP is suffering from their own story telling, Caldari and the Amarr are suppose to represent right wing aspects our world and due to player preference the numbers of people participating in fw are very off balanced. The Caldari were faceless until Tibus Heath, and the Amarr already were given religion and slavery. While people can use other ships most like to fw for the stronger ships they use to get even stronger versions of them. so they screwed up amarr in eve so they gave them the heavy role on dust and screwed them again only thing we have that is better then the rest is the fact our logi has a side arm
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1021	Posted - 2013.09.13 19:00:00 - [18] - Quote Fweddit abandoned faction warfare, so that's probably why the Amarr militia has collapsed. They had gotten so large that the Minmatar weren't even trying to fight back anymore.
Aisha Ctarl Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1298	Posted - 2013.09.13 19:04:00 - [19] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Pretty much entirely this. All the cool kids wanna fight slavery or fight for democracy, very few wanna be fascist capitalists or religious nuts. Theres probably also economic reasons as well, ppl have farmed up lots of LP and wanna cash in, I may be out of date but it used to be that controlling the FW systems raised your factions tier on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 offering great discounts on the LP you spend at the LP store, so powers that be have been saving up millions of LP and wanna cash it in at good rates. It really depends on how you package it. In that star wars MMO, everyone wanted to play for the Sith Empire. Slavery, fascism, murder, cool armor. If CCP started an Amarr showcase portraying them as cool villains, you'd see mass defections in no time. I've got to agree with this. I'm an EVE and DUST player. The reason I chose Amarr about four years ago when I first started EVE was that they seemed to be the most fun to RP and also I liked the thought of being the bad guy. Something about how the Amarr wanting to convert everyone to their faith and expand their empire while doing so really enticed me. Like you stated above, if CCP did something to show the Amarr as being the cool or bad-ass bad guys, you'd see people flock to the Amarr Empire. DUST wise, the Amarr have the coolest looking armor and weapon (SCR) by far.
Oswald Rehnquist Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 231	Posted - 2013.09.13 20:11:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Also CCP is suffering from their own story telling, Caldari and the Amarr are suppose to represent right wing aspects our world and due to player preference the numbers of people participating in fw are very off balanced. The Caldari were faceless until Tibus Heath, and the Amarr already were given religion and slavery. Pretty much entirely this. All the cool kids wanna fight slavery or fight for democracy, very few wanna be fascist capitalists or religious nuts. Theres probably also economic reasons as well, ppl have farmed up lots of LP and wanna cash in, I may be out of date but it used to be that controlling the FW systems raised your factions tier on a scale of 1 to 5 with 5 offering great discounts on the LP you spend at the LP store, so powers that be have been saving up millions of LP and wanna cash it in at good rates. Please, Tibus was a tyrant as worse as they come, friend among friends a enemy of everyone else. Being faceless has what made the caldari so dangerous in the past mind you. All in the faith of the core of the immortal ideals to follow is far more productive than following the ideals of an insane man with no love for his nation. As for FW things, there are no restrictions on equipment,. Never said there was any restrictions, but you'd have to blatantly ignore the fact that people would rather garter LP for the better pvp ships, also being known for weaker stronger ships effects which side players like to side on. And my faceless part was that without a face the caldari seemed less "evil" but with the face was given more ammunition for the idealists to rage against something. Arx Ardashir wrote: Well, 7 months ago you had near Minmatar domination on the WZ, then the Amarr pushed them back to around a 75%/25% split (A/M) for a couple of months, then it was a 50/50 split for a few months, and now it's back to the way it was and is merely waiting for another pendulum swing. I can't speak for the Cal/Gal WZ, however. FW sovereignty is all about a mixture of morale, burnouts, and LP farmers. Minmatar faction ships always sell well, so the core players get a lot of help plexing. AmarrMil has always been the smallest militia, thus most of the players who join it are looking for PvP against the larger MinMil. Truth be told, most AmarrMil just have no desire for plexing. Plexing is like hacking an objective for 10+ min except you might never have a redberry come by. This what I was always also talking about how stronger racial ships gear people towards certain factions



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