the problem is there istn any room for any specialised wepaons (mass driver possably being the exception with its ability to drive people out of cover)

in any situation where you are building a squad your better off bringing in 6 assault rifles then any other configuration, for any job, the assault rifle does it better.

we dont NEED other weapons for anything, their purpose is served by the assault rifle.


ive seen over 9000 heavys runnign around with assault rifles now.... its getting out of hand that if you bring in another weapon your hurting your team.


keep in mind, im not an AR user. i blow people up with explosives. so for me to swap to something im unfamiliar with and instantly enter DUST514 godmode was rather startleing


i get that your angry, i get that you used to these kinds of arguments.

im nto your average gamer. i m not afraid of dieing thousands of times to adjust to something.

i use patience and planning to kill, my primary weapon of choice is remote explosives.
i can use a novaknife scout and stay positive (even since 1.4 hit)
ive been playing this game since closed beta and im one of the top 500 most active players in the game.

i am personally fine... this AR BS isnt really efecting me too much outside of forcing me to use more scoutlike tactics and changing what my targets are.

im STILL not going to use the damn AR, i hate the thing its just not a creative way to kill people... doesnt mean i dont want other people to use and enjoy it.

i get that your angry at your average gamer... but your average gamer i am not.

I can't wait to see your corp go up against Red Star or Molon Labe, I really can't.

my corp has 3 active members.... your not seeing that anytime soon.

Ah, well, maybe one day you'll see how awful it is to be assaulted by Mass Drivers and Forge Guns throughout the entire game.

forge gun on a power point is uncounterable and a different class different leuge all together.

mass drivers are my love... and skilled MD users will scare the crap out of most people when they show up in large numbers.

these are just simple truths. ( i <3 the breach MD)



maybe its a learning curve thing, maybe the AR is so dominating becuase new players can grab it and dominate with it, but specialised weapons require specialised tactics.

maybe thats why the AR was so damn deadly in my hands yesterday, it felt dirty... it felt like i wasnt even giving thema chance to dive into cover.


maybe it just signals the end of the old metagame and the birth of a very very cover intensive metagame where you arnt leaving cover unless you have a real plan on where your next piece of cover is.


this would actually be great, we woud finally see the battle lines drawn and a no-mans land of death start to form.


hell maybe this isnt even a bad thing at all.


i suppose that i should probably just wait and see and do what i do best instead of worrying about what others do


you have actually cinvinced me this isnt so bad afterall... maybe its the sleep dep thats made me go slightly ******** and defencive...

im going to re-assess this... and find a new corp

Alternatively you could just use a weapon that requires more skill to use.. Not like it's shameful or anything.

Range is also a significant factor as Assault Scrambler Rifles, while having the same optimal, have larger fall off range - so by all rights it's a better weapon with the single exception of low armor damage...

I've yet to see any information provided that gives legitimate reasoning, let alone with accurate information, as to why the Assault Rifle should be nerfed.

At that distance I thought I was going to get away.

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^ Scouts ... they move so fast.

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Also, I'd like to win CQC fights with my severely range-restricted shotgun. When I do manage to get into optimal range, it shouldn't be a "toss up" if the guy happens to have an AR.

I'd like to think my reasoning is legitimate, Aeon. I accept that you may not.
You have my respect, either way.

- Shotty GoBang

Wow. This is unbelievable - so basically anything with a high fire rate that can you can ADS with is OP?

So, what's the alternative? We all use Shotguns and Sniper Rifles? Team Fortress 514 much?

The problem is its not ADS its just a scrub hipfirefest thanks to improved AA

Wheres the skill in that??

Plus an AR kills a heavy HMG??
Thats wrong.

AR needs a nerf.

Now excuse me while I go use my one thousand duvolle ARs and one thousand GEKs that I have in inventory.

the problem is there istn any room for any specialised wepaons (mass driver possably being the exception with its ability to drive people out of cover)

in any situation where you are building a squad your better off bringing in 6 assault rifles then any other configuration, for any job, the assault rifle does it better.

we dont NEED other weapons for anything, their purpose is served by the assault rifle.


ive seen over 9000 heavys runnign around with assault rifles now.... its getting out of hand that if you bring in another weapon your hurting your team.


keep in mind, im not an AR user. i blow people up with explosives. so for me to swap to something im unfamiliar with and instantly enter DUST514 godmode was rather startleing


i get that your angry, i get that you used to these kinds of arguments.

im nto your average gamer. i m not afraid of dieing thousands of times to adjust to something.

i use patience and planning to kill, my primary weapon of choice is remote explosives.
i can use a novaknife scout and stay positive (even since 1.4 hit)
ive been playing this game since closed beta and im one of the top 500 most active players in the game.

i am personally fine... this AR BS isnt really efecting me too much outside of forcing me to use more scoutlike tactics and changing what my targets are.

im STILL not going to use the damn AR, i hate the thing its just not a creative way to kill people... doesnt mean i dont want other people to use and enjoy it.

i get that your angry at your average gamer... but your average gamer i am not. and when i say i know how to use flux/MD i mean it. hell ill actually go ahead and say the breach MD is flipping AWESOME, its the minmatar shotgun! that and i can aim the thing.

If you're still hip-firing in this game with AA on, you're doing something very very wrong.

If you're still hip-firing in this game with AA on, you're doing something very very wrong.