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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:00:00 -
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after1.4 pÇÇ Balance of armor and shield has improved. Superiority of the shield tank is reduced.
Why, CPU capacity is what remains low only ck.0. I want back to the CPU the same capacity as the other logistics suit.
Cal logi's CPU:350GåÆ390 or Other logi's CPU:390GåÆ350
The former is good what if possible,plz... hey,CCP DEVs please comment :)
I'm Japanese player,sorry English is a poor... ONEGAI SHIMASU :) |
Seed Dren
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
70
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:01:00 -
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Uhmmm ..... no. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8298
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:01:00 -
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Cannot have all trait, must give one to earn the other. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5127
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:02:00 -
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Would you be willing to give up a low slot? |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
232
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:05:00 -
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Get your electronics skill up. I haven't had a problem with CPU on my Cal Logi since. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
414
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:06:00 -
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jesus, my heavy doesn't even get 390. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1594
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:07:00 -
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Pansy |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
893
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:11:00 -
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So what, you want the CPU back because Armor got buffed? Don't all CalLogis just run a full set of Armor Plates as well as a full suite of Shield Extenders? |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1594
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:15:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:So what, you want the CPU back because Armor got buffed? Don't all CalLogis just run a full set of Armor Plates as well as a full suite of Shield Extenders? It'll be nice one we get penalties to shield if you're an armor tank and vice versa (unless you're minmatar)
The age of shield 514 is over, and I for one am glad. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:24:00 -
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Seed Dren wrote:Uhmmm ..... no. The CPU nerf was in fact... rather harsh. OTOH... Gek slaughters **** just fine. /shrug |
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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San
6
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:26:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Get your electronics skill up. I haven't had a problem with CPU on my Cal Logi since.
My electronics skill is Lv3. so come with Enhance CPU Module. But,It is difficult to achieve both high performance uplink and active scanner.
Logistics gk.0 has reduction bonuse CPU and PG,4 Equipment slot. too powerful performance.
Logistics ak.0 has side arm slot.it is only one!
Logistics mk.0 has 4 Equipment slot and hacking bonus.so good ! on PC match.
Logistics ck.0 has regulator bonus. it is useless. lol Because,after 1.4,shield is depleted easily. And "armor module, capacity is lighter than the shield module."
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
19
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:32:00 -
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Yer I agree with the op to a point.... the bonuz we get now is useless. And yes I would gladly give up a high or low slot to be able to fit proto equipment and a proto gun again. Oh and yes I have cpu and pg to 5 and usually still have to throw a basic cpu ext at it so u may aswell take one of my low slots. |
Skyhound Solbrave
Rough Riders..
239
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:34:00 -
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I understand where you are coming from, but it is a way of balancing the CalLogi suit. If you look at the AmLogi, it has abysmally low PG. Thus, we cannot stack armor plates or shield extenders that well. |
SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San
7
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:46:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:I understand where you are coming from, but it is a way of balancing the CalLogi suit. If you look at the AmLogi, it has abysmally low PG. Thus, we cannot stack armor plates or shield extenders that well.
Hmmm...
Better yet, I want to fix all such a balances lol I hope to CCP
It is strange why does not the accused Gallente Logistics is too strong. Logi gk.0 is possible to become shield 330 and armor 700over ,compatible with 4 equipments. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
657
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:52:00 -
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No |
SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San
8
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:57:00 -
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Why? pÇÇI want to know the reason why the opposite.
Cal logi still strong? I do not think so. I think that it has become a nondescript suit. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
673
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Posted - 2013.09.11 05:00:00 -
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I would enjoy this a lot. Shields are....meh. I want callogi 514 back. |
NOAMIzzzzz
BIG BAD W0LVES
40
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Posted - 2013.09.11 05:07:00 -
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No. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1258
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Posted - 2013.09.11 05:37:00 -
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I have generally find 350 to be pretty reasonable in my calogi suit, especially when you consider what others suit get.
I would need to use CPU enhancer anyway taking a low slot even if I had 390 back, but instead of it being basic, it is enhanced.
PG is the biggest problem-child I have found, I usually have CPU to spare. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
657
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Posted - 2013.09.11 05:55:00 -
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SAIRAX SIS wrote:Skyhound Solbrave wrote:I understand where you are coming from, but it is a way of balancing the CalLogi suit. If you look at the AmLogi, it has abysmally low PG. Thus, we cannot stack armor plates or shield extenders that well. Hmmm... Better yet, I want to fix all such a balances lol I hope to CCP It is strange why does not the accused Gallente Logistics is too strong. Logi gk.0 is possible to become shield 330 and armor 700over ,compatible with 4 equipments. Why would you want to weigh yourself down that much?Two complex reactive plates, complex repper, complex shield regulator, complex shield energizer, 2 complex shield extenders, then whatever else. |
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
657
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Posted - 2013.09.11 05:56:00 -
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SAIRAX SIS wrote: Why? pÇÇI want to know the reason why the opposite. Cal logi still strong? I do not think so. I think that it has become a nondescript suit. Cal Logi was already nerfed for being better than all the other suits. Why should CCP give themselves a reason to nerf it twice? |
Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
40
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Posted - 2013.09.11 05:57:00 -
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SAIRAX SIS wrote:after1.4 pÇÇ Balance of armor and shield has improved. Superiority of the shield tank is reduced. Why, CPU capacity is what remains low only ck.0. I want back to the CPU the same capacity as the other logistics suit. Cal logi's CPU:350GåÆ390 or Other logi's CPU:390GåÆ350 The former is good what if possible,plz... hey,CCP DEVs please comment :) I'm Japanese player,sorry English is a poor... ONEGAI SHIMASU :)
what you reckon your an assault player? |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
188
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:19:00 -
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when I hear I want more I want u guys to have more taken away u guys already do the assault job better than us -_- u need more nerfs >:) |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3138
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:23:00 -
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The reason for the Callogi nerf is the 5/4 high/mid slot layout. With more CPU, you'd be able to stack plates and extenders in all of those slots and get a ludicrous amount of EHP - I suspect you could quite easily break 1,000 whilst maintaining a decent regen rate.
The Gallente logistics CAN achieve those numbers as well, but it's more armour based so it comes at the cost of more speed and the regeneration is generally weaker unless you weaken that tank to fit armour repairers. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
2077
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The reason for the Callogi nerf is the 5/4 high/mid slot layout. With more CPU, you'd be able to stack plates and extenders in all of those slots and get a ludicrous amount of EHP - I suspect you could quite easily break 1,000 whilst maintaining a decent regen rate.
The Gallente logistics CAN achieve those numbers as well, but it's more armour based so it comes at the cost of more speed and the regeneration is generally weaker unless you weaken that tank to fit armour repairers.
The CPU nerf doesn't change that, cal logis can still dual tank just fine. They just can't run proto equipment while shield tanking anymore.
To the OP: Get electronics 5 and a complex CPU modules. That 35% more CPU than you are currently running with level 3 and enhanced. It sucks but c'est la vie. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
539
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:46:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:So what, you want the CPU back because Armor got buffed? Don't all CalLogis just run a full set of Armor Plates as well as a full suite of Shield Extenders?
Yupz, you can slot in about 1200 total of shield + plates in that thing, guess thats not enough for him :/
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General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
2356
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Posted - 2013.09.11 07:06:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:So what, you want the CPU back because Armor got buffed? Don't all CalLogis just run a full set of Armor Plates as well as a full suite of Shield Extenders? Yupz, you can slot in about 1200 total of shield + plates in that thing, guess thats not enough for him :/ that build is actually kind of dumb |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
893
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Posted - 2013.09.11 07:30:00 -
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huh
A japanese player who put their respec into the Caldari Logi because it was the best suit at the time. Then their suit got nerfed to be an actual logi suit, and now they're complaining? -_-
Your module slots are for fitting lots of DIFFERENT modules, not just stacking a bunch of high level ones.
Lrn2logi. Your suit was designed as a versatility class, maybe if you used it as one you would be doing better with it now. If you wanted to be a run and gun assault you should have put points into those suits instead.
You chose to skill into a suit that had an unfair advantage at the time, and now you get to live with the consequences. End of discussion. |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
233
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:47:00 -
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I don't understand what you guys are trying to fit on these Cal Logi suits that it doesn't work. I am running a Proto Cal Logi with Complex Extenders, Duvolle, and ADV equipment. Or I'll trade in the Duvolle for a GEK and run Proto everything else. Sometimes I have to run a CPU module. So what. The fittings are supposed to be a tight "fit". Before it was entirely tooooooo easy to fit the Cal Logi. Now you actually have to work at it.... |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
233
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:52:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:
You chose to skill into a suit that had an unfair advantage at the time, and now you get to live with the consequences. End of discussion.
So sick of this ignorant statement. SO everyone else picked their suit because they liked it or wanted it or whatever. Only the Cal Logi was picked because it was overpowered.... Yeah right. Maybe a little for some people but it was not the only reason like you guys always want to say. I guess when playing a CCP game don't skill into anything that is good at all or it will be nerfed and a waste of time. |
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