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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
34
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:39:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Satori Particle wrote:I rank in the top 3 almost every match now with a dinky little Dragonfly suit. Anyone else having success with their scouts? I would love to see some positivity from "The Forgotten Ones". Some how only my Nades/RE's get me kills as a scout
ive been getting dunks all day long man * jump swoosh headshot * |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:50:00 -
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Satori Particle wrote:I rank in the top 3 almost every match now with a dinky little Dragonfly suit. Anyone else having success with their scouts? I would love to see some positivity from "The Forgotten Ones". Some how only my Nades/RE's get me kills as a scout ive been getting dunks all day long man * jump swoosh headshot *
One of the most satisfying ways to kill someone in this game. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
263
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:03:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:I cant squeeze any good out of mine, but i did fight this guy called Lightning xVx today and he was an absolute beast with his, my bulets where bouncing right off him and he pretty much 1 shot killed my entire squad multiple times in a row in the city. he is a monster |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1419
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:32:00 -
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Being a non shotgun/scrambler/AR user, scouts are super hard mode. Im usually running round to the rear objective or flanking the attack but the moment anyone looks at me Im dead. |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:03:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Being a non shotgun/scrambler/AR user, scouts are super hard mode. Im usually running round to the rear objective or flanking the attack but the moment anyone looks at me Im dead.
So would you say that running plates and an AR is a more efficient way to flank? |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1025
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:33:00 -
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Satori Particle wrote:First Prophet wrote:Satori Particle wrote:First Prophet wrote:Third place is beast? Top 3 includes first place. It also includes second and third. So you are saying that in order for a class or even more specifically a fit to be considered beast it needs to rank first every time? I would classify that as God like, a beast is still mortal. Edit: I would classify that as Boss, it doesn't take a perfect game to rank first. My bad. No, no. Godlike would be getting first every time with no deaths. Beast is getting first everytime, deaths acceptable. If you're getting 2nd and 3rd place as well, you might be 'Going hard' or 'Killing it' but you definitely aren't beast.
Boss has less to do with kills/deaths/WPs and more to do with succeeding in an unlikely situation. |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
93
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:43:00 -
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as long as you use cover and use high alpha weapons the scout is beast....... so the scout remains unchanged other then it has a little more survivability thanks to no shared vision, tho thats the only thing allowing scouts to survive two secs with this ridiculous auto aim, I feel like I have a heavies hit box. |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
8
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:49:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Satori Particle wrote:First Prophet wrote:Satori Particle wrote:First Prophet wrote:Third place is beast? Top 3 includes first place. It also includes second and third. So you are saying that in order for a class or even more specifically a fit to be considered beast it needs to rank first every time? I would classify that as God like, a beast is still mortal. Edit: I would classify that as Boss, it doesn't take a perfect game to rank first. My bad. No, no. Godlike would be getting first every time with no deaths. Beast is getting first everytime, deaths acceptable. If you're getting 2nd and 3rd place as well, you might be 'Going hard' or 'Killing it' but you definitely aren't beast. Boss has less to do with kills/deaths/WPs and more to do with succeeding in an unlikely situation.
I can dig that.
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
430
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:04:00 -
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For me 1.4 has been hit and miss with my scout. In the games where I am patient, smart and sneaky, I tend to do pretty well... with my best game so far being 8/2 (I'm not great and I'm not ashamed to admit it) without using the auto-aim.
When I start using speed more instead of stealth, and attempting to get a bit more ballsy going after people that's when I typically get hammered.... .I can burn through the suits pretty quickly.
I don't run the active scanner but with a kin/cat and range mod I can do a reasonable amount of hunting with my AR or Shotgun. I think people are still adapting to the build as scouts, many are not used to being this stealthy.....
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
969
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:18:00 -
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Satori Particle wrote:I rank in the top 3 almost every match now with a dinky little Dragonfly suit. Anyone else having success with their scouts? I would love to see some positivity from "The Forgotten Ones".
You have been getting lucky with the matchmaking thats all. A scout doesnt last 0.8 seconds vs my laser and i pack a powerful active scan,which most scouts cant avoid.
Not to mention,active scans are really common now.... |
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Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Satori Particle wrote:I rank in the top 3 almost every match now with a dinky little Dragonfly suit. Anyone else having success with their scouts? I would love to see some positivity from "The Forgotten Ones". You have been getting lucky with the matchmaking thats all. A scout doesnt last 0.8 seconds vs my laser and i pack a powerful active scan,which most scouts cant avoid.Not to mention,active scans are really common now....
Unless you are using a proto focused scanner I won't show up but your laser is only effective inside of my active scan range. Luckily for me I have been getting lucky matchmaking |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
969
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:31:00 -
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Satori Particle wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Satori Particle wrote:I rank in the top 3 almost every match now with a dinky little Dragonfly suit. Anyone else having success with their scouts? I would love to see some positivity from "The Forgotten Ones". You have been getting lucky with the matchmaking thats all. A scout doesnt last 0.8 seconds vs my laser and i pack a powerful active scan,which most scouts cant avoid.Not to mention,active scans are really common now.... Unless you are using a proto focused scanner I won't show up but your laser is only effective inside of my active scan range. Luckily for me I have been getting lucky matchmaking
Im not calling you bad or anything. Dont misunderstand me.
1- I rely on my eyes to fight, the scanner is mostly for my team mates. 2-My laser would still drop you in a second 3-When i run scout i get open maps,vs 9+ organizeed red dots. Uber massacre. (And my Minnie scout has 400EHP,which is a lot for a scout) This is what i meant with you are getting qued up nicely.... |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:36:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Satori Particle wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Satori Particle wrote:I rank in the top 3 almost every match now with a dinky little Dragonfly suit. Anyone else having success with their scouts? I would love to see some positivity from "The Forgotten Ones". You have been getting lucky with the matchmaking thats all. A scout doesnt last 0.8 seconds vs my laser and i pack a powerful active scan,which most scouts cant avoid.Not to mention,active scans are really common now.... Unless you are using a proto focused scanner I won't show up but your laser is only effective inside of my active scan range. Luckily for me I have been getting lucky matchmaking Im not calling you bad or anything. Dont misunderstand me.
1- I rely on my eyes to fight, the scanner is mostly for my team mates. 2-My laser would still drop you in a second 3-When i run scout i get open maps,vs 9+ organizeed red dots. Uber massacre. (And my Minnie scout has 400EHP,which is a lot for a scout) This is what i meant with you are getting qued up nicely....
I didn't think you were calling me bad, nor would I care if you did. I'm not claiming to be invincible, every fit has a weakness. I do think the lucky matchmaking comment is a bit if a cop out however, but honestly it's just something I will roll my eyes at. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
480
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:06:00 -
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I am having a terrible time as a scout. You gotta hide in dark corners like a little b!tch and pretend that sneaking up on reddots from the back is any indication of your skill or game challenge.
Speed tanking does not exist anymore. Your skill with a gun is meaningless now. But hey you got that 'sneaky assasin' playstyle that's now semi legitimate. Congrats. |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:10:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:I am having a terrible time as a scout. You gotta hide in dark corners like a little b!tch and pretend that sneaking up on reddots from the back is any indication of your skill or game challenge.
Speed tanking does not exist anymore. Your skill with a gun is meaningless now. But hey you got that 'sneaky assasin' playstyle that's now semi legitimate. Congrats.
I win plenty of face to face gun battles. It is not impossible to get around an enemies cone of fire like a lot of people claim. |
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
36
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Posted - 2013.09.11 11:06:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:For me 1.4 has been hit and miss with my scout. In the games where I am patient, smart and sneaky, I tend to do pretty well... with my best game so far being 8/2 (I'm not great and I'm not ashamed to admit it) without using the auto-aim.
When I start using speed more instead of stealth, and attempting to get a bit more ballsy going after people that's when I typically get hammered.... .I can burn through the suits pretty quickly.
I don't run the active scanner but with a kin/cat and range mod I can do a reasonable amount of hunting with my AR or Shotgun. I think people are still adapting to the build as scouts, many are not used to being this stealthy.....
ditto bro i tend to do pretty **** when i get balsy but i did go 15/12 useing some mad balls instead of brains getting tripple kills by running head on an hopping like a ****** boom headshot *headshot rings out * swish |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
165
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Posted - 2013.09.11 12:01:00 -
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Scouts aren t hat stealthy once advanced scanner comes to play to bypass the advanced scanner you woul need profile dampening lvl 5 plus a profile dampener or scout lvl 3 at least.
Imho thats a bit too much considering a suit that is build around sealth and speed (where the speed advantage is highly questionable) |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10
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Posted - 2013.09.11 16:53:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Scouts aren't hat stealthy once advanced scanner comes to play. To bypass the advanced scanner you would need profile dampening lvl 5 plus a profile dampener or scout lvl 3 at least.
Imho thats a bit too much considering a suit that is build around sealth and speed (where the speed advantage is highly questionable)
I agree that the requirements needed to prevent an advanced scan are a bit high. If I see that I have been scanned I run a counter scan to protect my surrounding squad mates. You should get x2 scan points for killing a scanned enemie who has a scan activated on your team (not really). Should I say the word scan some more? Scan...scanner, scanning. Honestly hearing the word scan so much is getting kind of annoying hahah. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
461
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Posted - 2013.09.11 17:11:00 -
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sucks when you are sniping comfortably in a key position and then here comes the AR to drop you in 1 sec. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
461
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Posted - 2013.09.11 17:15:00 -
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When I do my worst is when I'm the only one trying, or I'm facing higher SP opponents. |
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
707
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Posted - 2013.09.11 17:24:00 -
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What is this crap?
A positive Scout/Heavy thread?
People actually enjoying playing with these suits?
VERBOTEN! |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.09.11 17:32:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:When I do my worst is when I'm the only one trying, or I'm facing higher SP opponents.
If I feel that I'm the only one trying I bust out the GLU-5 and go for KDR. Not an efficient way to play but the feeling of you vs them is a fun challenge. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
462
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Posted - 2013.09.11 17:34:00 -
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Being ballsy is all a scout is now...and it's awesome Dying sucks but it's your intention as a scout that counts. When I die a lot, I'm still right up there in the leaderboards even though scouting right now is unfjustly hard. |
Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
128
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Posted - 2013.09.11 17:47:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:I am having a terrible time as a scout. You gotta hide in dark corners like a little b!tch and pretend that sneaking up on reddots from the back is any indication of your skill or game challenge.
Speed tanking does not exist anymore. Your skill with a gun is meaningless now. But hey you got that 'sneaky assasin' playstyle that's now semi legitimate. Congrats.
Disclaimer: scouts are still UP - other suits can compete with what scouts can do, but not vice-versa.
Couldn't tell if serious...either way I'm wondering if 1.4 is going to be the patch that breaks up the scout community.
Wait that sounded a bit dramatic. I mean the posts here are either 'sneaky sneaky gooder! :-) ' or 'move not fast and die bigger :-( '
As someone who picked Gallente to scout and had to pick my kills, 1.4 has been great for me - but I get that Minnie's get bonus to fricking knives - and we all, scouts or not, played a bit of dance dance revolution when we got into combat, and we all know that is not possible now. For me, that got a fair trade with hit detection being fixed - then add being able to scan/hide for greater effect, for me and my squad/team, well overall this was a boon. For Minnie's, I guess they are literally bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Now that 'stealth tanking' has become something scouts can consider, will the communities view of scouts change from 'Hard to hit guys who will likely kill me if they get in range (but if I hit them they' die)' to 'WTF man - just got killed by some AR/SCR scout, I don't even where they are! (but if I find them they'll die)'.
Cause frankly as someone who started playing just before 1.3 hit (that's when female mercs had...that walk?), I was always a little disappointed that everyone talked about scouts using reds and greens, shotguns and knives - it's like profile dampeners and active scanners didn't exist. |
DTOracle
The Surrogates Of War
135
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:39:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Scouts aren't hat stealthy once advanced scanner comes to play. To bypass the advanced scanner you would need profile dampening lvl 5 plus a profile dampener or scout lvl 3 at least.
Imho thats a bit too much considering a suit that is build around sealth and speed (where the speed advantage is highly questionable) I run a lvl 5 Scout w/ lvl 3 dampening, & only a proto scanner can find me when not running a dampening module. If I run a basic dampening mod then i'm pretty much invisible. |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:42:00 -
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It takes about 2 seconds to drop someone with an AR and it's still very possible to shake the crosshairs off you long enough to survive a gun battle. Stack plates and play slower, if you are playing propper you should have at least a one second jump on most engagements. Also note that a good scout fit requires a rediculous amount of sp to be effective. Putting profile damps on a scout seems like a poor choice to me. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
425
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:48:00 -
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Once more people start using active scanners scouts die in seconds. They're crazy fragile and are now too slow to properly evade other weapons' tracking speed. |
Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
128
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Posted - 2013.09.11 19:55:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Once more people start using active scanners scouts die in seconds. They're crazy fragile and are now too slow to properly evade other weapons' tracking speed.
^ This... |
Satori Particle
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:01:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Once more people start using active scanners scouts die in seconds. They're crazy fragile and are now too slow to properly evade other weapons' tracking speed.
Everyone dies in seconds and a propper scout should always be the one to initiate a gun battle. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
612
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:04:00 -
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So are the majority of you guys gallente or minmatar? I get the feeling those doing well are gallente , it has 30 more HP from the stock, plus armor mods have more health now an less speed penalties an more low slots for pd, speed, regulators an reactive plate for armor regen, plus the radius bonus.
The mini on the other hand I can do somewhat well with, but it varies, I am a lone wolf flanker, I die mostly only because of nova knife hit detection problems. My best score this build is 24/6 but there not as often as I like.
I constantly make new fits to try new things with the mini but I reall think this is a low slot build. I took my mini a stopped filling it with speed an shields an now I use armor reactive plates cuz I think we need the armor regen, an a basic pd gets me under 28 db.
In the high slots I use damaged mods an precision mods. As long as I'm ghost an use uplinks for points I can place top six but I really think both scouts need another slot each an equip |
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