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Valeryy Igunen
Nexus Marines
18
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:23:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:Valeryy Igunen wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:So you want people that specced ALL of their SP into a specific role and not play it, with a high chance of lowering our KDR, ISK and Dignity because you want us to go on strike..................................................................................................................................................No, Thanks.
Now if CCP were to say Scouts are fine and their not making ANY changes to it at all. THEN I would go on strike. scouts are fine, you just play them wrong I do? And what do you run?
Shotgun scout with active scanner, if you run to the "main battle" you are useless, its your task to kill those who try to flank your team mates. The scout is also perfect for hacking and defending objectives.
thats the way i play my shotgun scout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiX7s_0jTVw |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
360
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:26:00 -
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Then ASSASIN it shall be!!
Monkey MAC wrote:If I may, while my personal scouting experience comes from using the free suits marketing keep giving us, would you be happy if the current scout suit was left paper thin, but given buffs back to speed, profile, scan radius and 2eq slots, but you swap your light slot for 2 side arm slots
Then we give a "welterweight" assasin suit, with a little more health and bonuses to damage at short range as well and prehaps regen, it keeps its light weapon slot, but doesn't get the extra speed and equipment slots the scout does.
Good Idea?
I would prefer if you were to respond with civility in mind!! Edit forgot the "You", makes it sound like I would be happy, oops
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Lightning xVx
Diamond-Dogs
165
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:29:00 -
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Valeryy Igunen wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:Valeryy Igunen wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:So you want people that specced ALL of their SP into a specific role and not play it, with a high chance of lowering our KDR, ISK and Dignity because you want us to go on strike..................................................................................................................................................No, Thanks.
Now if CCP were to say Scouts are fine and their not making ANY changes to it at all. THEN I would go on strike. scouts are fine, you just play them wrong I do? And what do you run? Shotgun scout with active scanner, if you run to the "main battle" you are useless, its your task to kill those who try to flank your team mates. The scout is also perfect for hacking and defending objectives.
Oh really? But that's how YOU play, not how I play. So you stating how I run is wrong shows that you either run different suits (other than Scout) or you just limit your own self to that play style. If I can hold a KDR above 4.50 (solely as a Scout) that runs in battle, still manages to make quota of pay (not plateau on ISK) and still hold my own against other Proto's. Then I guess Im doing something right. You perhaps on the other hand, not so much.
PS: And on top of that I rarely run in Squads and if I do run in a squad it's with 1 of my 4 Corp members. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
361
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:33:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:Valeryy Igunen wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:Valeryy Igunen wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:So you want people that specced ALL of their SP into a specific role and not play it, with a high chance of lowering our KDR, ISK and Dignity because you want us to go on strike..................................................................................................................................................No, Thanks.
Now if CCP were to say Scouts are fine and their not making ANY changes to it at all. THEN I would go on strike. scouts are fine, you just play them wrong I do? And what do you run? Shotgun scout with active scanner, if you run to the "main battle" you are useless, its your task to kill those who try to flank your team mates. The scout is also perfect for hacking and defending objectives. Oh really? But that's how YOU play, not how I play. So you stating how I run is wrong shows that you either run different suits (other than Scout) or you just limit your own self to that play style. If I can hold a KDR above 4.50 (solely as a Scout) that runs in battle, still manages to make quota of pay (not plateau on ISK) and still hold my own against other Proto's. Then I guess Im doing something right. You perhaps on the other hand, not so much. PS: And on top of that I rarely run in Squads and if I do run in a squad it's with 1 of my 4 Corp members. well maybe a new ASSASSIN suit would be more your playstyle? Then he cun run scouty scout, and you run cqc badass, you know just throwing that out their!!
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Valeryy Igunen
Nexus Marines
18
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:34:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:Valeryy Igunen wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:Valeryy Igunen wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:So you want people that specced ALL of their SP into a specific role and not play it, with a high chance of lowering our KDR, ISK and Dignity because you want us to go on strike..................................................................................................................................................No, Thanks.
Now if CCP were to say Scouts are fine and their not making ANY changes to it at all. THEN I would go on strike. scouts are fine, you just play them wrong I do? And what do you run? Shotgun scout with active scanner, if you run to the "main battle" you are useless, its your task to kill those who try to flank your team mates. The scout is also perfect for hacking and defending objectives. Oh really? But that's how YOU play, not how I play. So you stating how I run is wrong shows that you either run different suits (other than Scout) or you just limit your own self to that play style. If I can hold a KDR above 4.50 (solely as a Scout) that runs in battle, still manages to make quota of pay (not plateau on ISK) and still hold my own against other Proto's. Then I guess Im doing something right. You perhaps on the other hand, not so much. PS: And on top of that I rarely run in Squads and if I do run in a squad it's with 1 of my 4 Corp members.
you have a good KDR and you can kill other proto's sounds fine for me, no need for changes :D |
Beck Weathers
High-Damage
39
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:45:00 -
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I havent used my scout almost at all, I never trained profile dampening, and i hate the idea that i would need to train it to be useful at all.
I would give up my granade slot for another equipment slot tho, but i think one of the main things scouts need is a much bigger jumping higth, or some sort of micro burst jump pack, because there is allot of head higth terain it would be great to just jump over, or use to get into good sniping positions. |
Lightning xVx
Diamond-Dogs
165
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:47:00 -
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Honestly, we need a little bit more as Scouts. If only a few (and I mean FEW) people can run scout, there's a problem with that. CCP needs to address it before Scouts become irrelevant. |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
110
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:48:00 -
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I'm a Heavy HMG and I refuse to sign. It takes skill to properly use this loadout, you are unworthy! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
363
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:53:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:I havent used my scout almost at all, I never trained profile dampening, and i hate the idea that i would need to train it to be useful at all.
I would give up my granade slot for another equipment slot tho, but i think one of the main things scouts need is a much bigger jumping higth, or some sort of micro burst jump pack, because there is allot of head higth terain it would be great to just jump over, or use to get into good sniping positions.
Prehaps vaulting, and short distance wall running, kind a parkour style? |
Lightning xVx
Diamond-Dogs
165
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:55:00 -
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IMO from running Scouts since closed BETA. Here's a list I think would be viable:
1.) Smaller Hit Box
2.) A little bit more health over all not much, but enough to get by.
3.) Better Scan, Range and Dampening.
4.) Higher Stamina and Slight Speed Boost. (NOT A HUGE BUFF)
5.) The only class that should be able to mantle up objects as high as 8-10 feet.
6.) Suits that give the option for either 2 equipment slots (w/ No Grenade) or just the suit we have now. (1 grenade and 1 slot)
7.) Adaptive Camo like Old Snake from Metal Gear Solid 4. (NO ACTIVE CAMO) cough* cough* Sheathe......
8.) Boost on any item that is related to Biotics.
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
364
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:58:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:IMO from running Scouts since closed BETA. Here's a list I think would be viable:
1.) Smaller Hit Box
2.) A little bit more health over all not much, but enough to get by.
3.) Better Scan, Range and Dampening.
4.) Higher Stamina and Slight Speed Boost. (NOT A HUGE BUFF)
5.) The only class that should be able to mantle up objects as high as 8-10 feet.
6.) Suits that give the option for either 2 equipment slots (w/ No Grenade) or just the suit we have now. (1 grenade and 1 slot)
7.) Adaptive Camo like Old Snake from Metal Gear Solid 4. (NO ACTIVE CAMO) cough* cough* Sheathe......
8.) Boost on any item that is related to Biotics.
7, hmm, but then all the scouts spend their entire time, facing a wall so their eyes dont give em away!! But hmm I like it, maybe I need to play mgs4 again!! |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
519
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:59:00 -
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General Erick wrote:I'm a Heavy HMG and I refuse to sign. It takes skill to properly use this loadout, you are unworthy!
And comments like this is why heavies will not be taken serious. |
Lightning xVx
Diamond-Dogs
165
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:00:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:IMO from running Scouts since closed BETA. Here's a list I think would be viable:
1.) Smaller Hit Box
2.) A little bit more health over all not much, but enough to get by.
3.) Better Scan, Range and Dampening.
4.) Higher Stamina and Slight Speed Boost. (NOT A HUGE BUFF)
5.) The only class that should be able to mantle up objects as high as 8-10 feet.
6.) Suits that give the option for either 2 equipment slots (w/ No Grenade) or just the suit we have now. (1 grenade and 1 slot)
7.) Adaptive Camo like Old Snake from Metal Gear Solid 4. (NO ACTIVE CAMO) cough* cough* Sheathe......
8.) Boost on any item that is related to Biotics.
7, hmm, but then all the scouts spend their entire time, facing a wall so their eyes dont give em away!! But hmm I like it, maybe I need to play mgs4 again!!
Not so the reason I say Adaptive Camo as opposed to Active is because you can still see the shape of your enemy and its not OP. Now with the new lights/shadowing and particle effects. It's strong but definitely not OP. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4538
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:01:00 -
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I'm sorry I can't do this I have to use my heavy suit
but HMG needs a buff |
Jake Bloodworth
DUST University Ivy League
143
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:01:00 -
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calvin b wrote:CCP has not heard our cries on our problems. For heavies its lack of suits, lack of heavy weapons. It is also the poor job the HMG does, from poor range to bullets hitting everything but there intended target. The heavy in general is out classed and is a joke currently on the battlefield.
For the Scout the same is for you, your suits lack any chance of survivability in today's combat environment. You lack the necessary power and speed to be proficient in your class. Lack of suit choices also limit your choices of play style as well. The scout is a paper doll playing in a glass factory.
I am calling all scouts and heavies to go on strike. I ask that you play Dust but refuse to use the Heavy or Scout class in general. Run BPO starter fits and use the weapon of your choice. If you feel that you have not been given a voice I ask that you sign this petition that you will not use a heavy or scout until CCP fixes the problem.
Let them see the numbers drop on these classes. If you feel the Heavy or the Scout needs to be fixed and given a proper role please sign your name. If you feel the suit is fine then please do not leave your name.
Until CCP acknowledges that the scout and the Heavy have problems I ask that you boycott the use of these class's and run another class or BPO starter fit. Once CCP sees that only Logi and Assault is being used they may get the point.
1. Calvin B (Heavy and HMG user)
... No
Still doing quite well with my Heavy and HMG. Your description of the HMG is GREATLY exaggerated, which leads me to believe the problem lies more with someone's gun game. By means though, please do stop playing your heavy. One less whiny, entitled Heavy player in the game can only be a good thing.
I will however agree with scouts having a hard time at the moment. I don't know how you fix it, but they do need some help.
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
722
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:04:00 -
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General Erick wrote:I'm a Heavy HMG and I refuse to sign. It takes skill to properly use this loadout, you are unworthy! Yea, the Heavies don't really need a buff tbqh, we just need some more options. |
Lightning xVx
Diamond-Dogs
165
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:05:00 -
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Adaptive Camo (EXAMPLE):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErfzjA4jWbM
MGS4 got Camo right! |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
471
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:08:00 -
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My problem with scouts is that CCP maniacally thrashes all over the place with their balancing. There is no sofr adjustments of tuning one thing up while buffing the other. They go and overnight change the whole game. Scouts used to speed tankers. Now that niche has been completely destroed by the aimbot. Instead with shared HUD out of the way scouts are better at sneaking around corners jumping on ppl's backs.
I used to think that my speed by design game me some advantage in CQC and if I developed a build around it I can be competive. Overnight CCP desides to put an Aimbot into the game and hey - Dust is no longer a tracking shooter. Now it's a 'tactical' shooter. If you spent time (and possibly money) to specialize to be better at a tracking shooter - too bad, now you are playing a different game. HTFU. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
519
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:12:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote:calvin b wrote:CCP has not heard our cries on our problems. For heavies its lack of suits, lack of heavy weapons. It is also the poor job the HMG does, from poor range to bullets hitting everything but there intended target. The heavy in general is out classed and is a joke currently on the battlefield.
For the Scout the same is for you, your suits lack any chance of survivability in today's combat environment. You lack the necessary power and speed to be proficient in your class. Lack of suit choices also limit your choices of play style as well. The scout is a paper doll playing in a glass factory.
I am calling all scouts and heavies to go on strike. I ask that you play Dust but refuse to use the Heavy or Scout class in general. Run BPO starter fits and use the weapon of your choice. If you feel that you have not been given a voice I ask that you sign this petition that you will not use a heavy or scout until CCP fixes the problem.
Let them see the numbers drop on these classes. If you feel the Heavy or the Scout needs to be fixed and given a proper role please sign your name. If you feel the suit is fine then please do not leave your name.
Until CCP acknowledges that the scout and the Heavy have problems I ask that you boycott the use of these class's and run another class or BPO starter fit. Once CCP sees that only Logi and Assault is being used they may get the point.
1. Calvin B (Heavy and HMG user) ... No Still doing quite well with my Heavy and HMG. Your description of the HMG is GREATLY exaggerated, which leads me to believe the problem lies more with someone's gun game. By means though, please do stop playing your heavy. One less whiny, entitled Heavy player in the game can only be a good thing. I will however agree with scouts having a hard time at the moment. I don't know how you fix it, but they do need some help.
If you have been here as long as I have then you would know that there is a problem with heavies. For one we have only one racial suit, the next obvious is the racial bonus. But all this could be possibly fixed if new racial suits were released. Also if you think your gun game is great as it is I will take you 1 on 1 and we will see who is the best. I do not have hard feeling to other heavies but once you think you are superior is the day I dig your grave. |
Jake Bloodworth
DUST University Ivy League
143
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:33:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Jake Bloodworth wrote:calvin b wrote:CCP has not heard our cries on our problems. For heavies its lack of suits, lack of heavy weapons. It is also the poor job the HMG does, from poor range to bullets hitting everything but there intended target. The heavy in general is out classed and is a joke currently on the battlefield.
For the Scout the same is for you, your suits lack any chance of survivability in today's combat environment. You lack the necessary power and speed to be proficient in your class. Lack of suit choices also limit your choices of play style as well. The scout is a paper doll playing in a glass factory.
I am calling all scouts and heavies to go on strike. I ask that you play Dust but refuse to use the Heavy or Scout class in general. Run BPO starter fits and use the weapon of your choice. If you feel that you have not been given a voice I ask that you sign this petition that you will not use a heavy or scout until CCP fixes the problem.
Let them see the numbers drop on these classes. If you feel the Heavy or the Scout needs to be fixed and given a proper role please sign your name. If you feel the suit is fine then please do not leave your name.
Until CCP acknowledges that the scout and the Heavy have problems I ask that you boycott the use of these class's and run another class or BPO starter fit. Once CCP sees that only Logi and Assault is being used they may get the point.
1. Calvin B (Heavy and HMG user) ... No Still doing quite well with my Heavy and HMG. Your description of the HMG is GREATLY exaggerated, which leads me to believe the problem lies more with someone's gun game. By means though, please do stop playing your heavy. One less whiny, entitled Heavy player in the game can only be a good thing. I will however agree with scouts having a hard time at the moment. I don't know how you fix it, but they do need some help. If you have been here as long as I have then you would know that there is a problem with heavies. For one we have only one racial suit, the next obvious is the racial bonus. But all this could be possibly fixed if new racial suits were released. Also if you think your gun game is great as it is I will take you 1 on 1 and we will see who is the best. I do not have hard feeling to other heavies but once you think you are superior is the day I dig your grave.
How will you be digging my grave if your rounds are hitting everything but their intended target? That means I only need only a few of mine to hit you. I suppose you could shoot at an object nearby and those rounds that miss your intended target may decide to hit me.
You have come on these forums to make a silly argument, and your answer to my negative opinion of said argument is to challenge me to a 1v1? How will this 1v1 work. Will we HMG at 30 paces? No, that would take forever according to most of our "heavy" players. Better make it 20 paces. What about the other 30 players I assume will be in the match? Will we be making a gentlemen's agreement to ignore the fact that we are playing in a "team based" game?
I think more than a few of your fellow corp-mates can vouch for me considering D-Uni is one of your largest providers of recruits. Heavy suits and HMG's reside somewhere in the middle of the Dust food chain. That is a fine place to be. Be thankful that it is so easy to set yourself apart as being good when you aren't considered OP.
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calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
519
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:42:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote:calvin b wrote:Jake Bloodworth wrote:calvin b wrote:CCP has not heard our cries on our problems. For heavies its lack of suits, lack of heavy weapons. It is also the poor job the HMG does, from poor range to bullets hitting everything but there intended target. The heavy in general is out classed and is a joke currently on the battlefield.
For the Scout the same is for you, your suits lack any chance of survivability in today's combat environment. You lack the necessary power and speed to be proficient in your class. Lack of suit choices also limit your choices of play style as well. The scout is a paper doll playing in a glass factory.
I am calling all scouts and heavies to go on strike. I ask that you play Dust but refuse to use the Heavy or Scout class in general. Run BPO starter fits and use the weapon of your choice. If you feel that you have not been given a voice I ask that you sign this petition that you will not use a heavy or scout until CCP fixes the problem.
Let them see the numbers drop on these classes. If you feel the Heavy or the Scout needs to be fixed and given a proper role please sign your name. If you feel the suit is fine then please do not leave your name.
Until CCP acknowledges that the scout and the Heavy have problems I ask that you boycott the use of these class's and run another class or BPO starter fit. Once CCP sees that only Logi and Assault is being used they may get the point.
1. Calvin B (Heavy and HMG user) ... No Still doing quite well with my Heavy and HMG. Your description of the HMG is GREATLY exaggerated, which leads me to believe the problem lies more with someone's gun game. By means though, please do stop playing your heavy. One less whiny, entitled Heavy player in the game can only be a good thing. I will however agree with scouts having a hard time at the moment. I don't know how you fix it, but they do need some help. If you have been here as long as I have then you would know that there is a problem with heavies. For one we have only one racial suit, the next obvious is the racial bonus. But all this could be possibly fixed if new racial suits were released. Also if you think your gun game is great as it is I will take you 1 on 1 and we will see who is the best. I do not have hard feeling to other heavies but once you think you are superior is the day I dig your grave. How will you be digging my grave if your rounds are hitting everything but their intended target? That means I only need only a few of mine to hit you. I suppose you could shoot at an object nearby and those rounds that miss your intended target may decide to hit me. You have come on these forums to make a silly argument, and your answer to my negative opinion of said argument is to challenge me to a 1v1? How will this 1v1 work. Will we HMG at 30 paces? No, that would take forever according to most of our "heavy" players. Better make it 20 paces. What about the other 30 players I assume will be in the match? Will we be making a gentlemen's agreement to ignore the fact that we are playing in a "team based" game? I think more than a few of your fellow corp-mates can vouch for me considering D-Uni is one of your largest providers of recruits. Heavy suits and HMG's reside somewhere in the middle of the Dust food chain. That is a fine place to be. Be thankful that it is so easy to set yourself apart as being good when you aren't considered OP.
No i will show how under powered and out classed the heavy is. I will take my assault Dren BPO with Gek and I will run circles around. You will not even get close enough before I drop you over and over again. So if you think an assault suit is supposed to be better at CQC than you need to rethink your roles on a heavy. If I run into you I will send you a reminder message after the match of how many times we met and which one of us walked away. |
Jake Bloodworth
DUST University Ivy League
143
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:56:00 -
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So, why not just play assault? You're apparently a better assault player then you are a heavy player. Then we can avoid threads like this, because you will be a happy AR user like the rest of the player base. You have just pulled the equivalent of a playground bully here. "I don't like what you're saying, let's fight!"
I look forward to playing with/against you. I generally enjoy all my interactions with Molon Labe. Except for the roof camping MD users you had last patch. Those were dark days. I'll even add you to my contacts so I can track my progress stat-wise against you. I've run with Molon Labe on several occasions, and I've even run a game or two with you. I honestly don't remember if I was impressed or not. But, I look forward to seeing you on the battlefield. And, I hope you have a keyboard if you're going to fire messages off to me all the time in game. That Ds3 is a pesky typing tool. |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
999
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:10:00 -
[53] - Quote
Shotgun Scout here.
I feel your frustration OP, but I can't imagine that boycotting the our gimped suit(s) will accelerate the fix timeline. Scout rebalance is already in the works; last we heard from Wolfman, we'll see it deployed in 1.6 (possibly 1.5).
Big changes -- the kind needed to balance light and heavy suits against mediums -- can't be implemented via hotfix.
Then again, the Devs could always address via nerfbat the other side of the imbalance equation :-) ^ That'd be an effort Scouts could get behind, as we patiently await our Christmas buff.
- Shotty GoBang |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
110
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:19:00 -
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calvin b wrote:General Erick wrote:I'm a Heavy HMG and I refuse to sign. It takes skill to properly use this loadout, you are unworthy! And comments like this is why heavies will not be taken serious. I don't care if you take me seriously. I only care if my Body Blender is happy. |
GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
135
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Posted - 2013.09.10 21:56:00 -
[55] - Quote
calvin b wrote:CCP has not heard our cries on our problems. For heavies its lack of suits, lack of heavy weapons. It is also the poor job the HMG does, from poor range to bullets hitting everything but there intended target. The heavy in general is out classed and is a joke currently on the battlefield.
For the Scout the same is for you, your suits lack any chance of survivability in today's combat environment. You lack the necessary power and speed to be proficient in your class. Lack of suit choices also limit your choices of play style as well. The scout is a paper doll playing in a glass factory.
I am calling all scouts and heavies to go on strike. I ask that you play Dust but refuse to use the Heavy or Scout class in general. Run BPO starter fits and use the weapon of your choice. If you feel that you have not been given a voice I ask that you sign this petition that you will not use a heavy or scout until CCP fixes the problem.
Let them see the numbers drop on these classes. If you feel the Heavy or the Scout needs to be fixed and given a proper role please sign your name. If you feel the suit is fine then please do not leave your name.
Until CCP acknowledges that the scout and the Heavy have problems I ask that you boycott the use of these class's and run another class or BPO starter fit. Once CCP sees that only Logi and Assault is being used they may get the point.
1. Calvin B (Heavy and HMG user)
How about just quit the game and use your heavy or scout in PC. Scouts are out match BIG TIME |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
369
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:41:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:IMO from running Scouts since closed BETA. Here's a list I think would be viable:
1.) Smaller Hit Box
2.) A little bit more health over all not much, but enough to get by.
3.) Better Scan, Range and Dampening.
4.) Higher Stamina and Slight Speed Boost. (NOT A HUGE BUFF)
5.) The only class that should be able to mantle up objects as high as 8-10 feet.
6.) Suits that give the option for either 2 equipment slots (w/ No Grenade) or just the suit we have now. (1 grenade and 1 slot)
7.) Adaptive Camo like Old Snake from Metal Gear Solid 4. (NO ACTIVE CAMO) cough* cough* Sheathe......
8.) Boost on any item that is related to Biotics.
7, hmm, but then all the scouts spend their entire time, facing a wall so their eyes dont give em away!! But hmm I like it, maybe I need to play mgs4 again!! Not so the reason I say Adaptive Camo as opposed to Active is because you can still see the shape of your enemy and its not OP. Now with the new lights/shadowing and particle effects. It's strong but definitely not OP.
Aah, well thats more like the octo camo on the boss, then snakes, you could tell she was there because of distortion and a slight matrix style effect, if you mean what I think you mean!! It most definitely shouldn't be perfect stealth, bit op, also a timer that stop you shooting for say 0.8 sec after decloaking, then you can have different types!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
369
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:43:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Shotgun Scout here.
I feel your frustration OP, but I can't imagine that boycotting the our gimped suit(s) will accelerate the fix timeline. Scout rebalance is already in the works; last we heard from Wolfman, we'll see it deployed in 1.6 (possibly 1.5).
Big changes -- the kind needed to balance light and heavy suits against mediums -- can't be implemented via hotfix.
Then again, the Devs could always address via nerfbat the other side of the imbalance equation :-) ^ That'd be an effort Scouts could get behind, as we patiently await our Christmas buff.
- Shotty GoBang
Shotty, could I get your personal opinion on the assasin and scout suits I suggested!! |
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Korvin Lomont wrote:I already do there is no point in running a scout suit right now (although the scout was more of a fun fit for me)
Same here., Been using assault + laser rifle.
My proto minny doesnt stand a chance anymore.(PLUS I WANT a amarr scout >..>)
-Maps are to open and usually offer little cover -Aim assist , while not a bad idea, is too strong making dodging with a scout impossible. -Proto active scanners are way to acessible and easily equipped (well not on any suit,but logis. And logis are pretty damn common anyways{And most of them now are gallante allowing easier fitting for equipment}, so yeah easy to equip) Active scanners are almost Impossible to avoid for gallante scouts and pretty sure impossible to evade while being a minnie...
So yeah.If im gonan be detected,i might as well run 800 armor and a Powerful Light weapon.... |
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:57:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:I already do there is no point in running a scout suit right now (although the scout was more of a fun fit for me) Same here., Been using assault + laser rifle.My proto minny doesnt stand a chance anymore.(PLUS I WANT a amarr scout >..>)-Maps are to open and usually offer little cover -Aim assist , while not a bad idea, is too strong making dodging with a scout impossible. -Proto active scanners are way to acessible and easily equipped (well not on any suit,but logis. And logis are pretty damn common anyways{And most of them now are gallante allowing easier fitting for equipment}, so yeah easy to equip) Active scanners are almost Impossible to avoid for gallante scouts and pretty sure impossible to evade while being a minnie... So yeah.If im gonan be detected,i might as well run 800 armor and a Powerful Light weapon....
Isnt the electronics skill enough?? |
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:02:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:I already do there is no point in running a scout suit right now (although the scout was more of a fun fit for me) Same here., Been using assault + laser rifle.My proto minny doesnt stand a chance anymore.(PLUS I WANT a amarr scout >..>)-Maps are to open and usually offer little cover -Aim assist , while not a bad idea, is too strong making dodging with a scout impossible. -Proto active scanners are way to acessible and easily equipped (well not on any suit,but logis. And logis are pretty damn common anyways{And most of them now are gallante allowing easier fitting for equipment}, so yeah easy to equip) Active scanners are almost Impossible to avoid for gallante scouts and pretty sure impossible to evade while being a minnie... So yeah.If im gonan be detected,i might as well run 800 armor and a Powerful Light weapon.... Isnt the electronics skill enough to avoid enough but the hi gh prescesion scanner!!
WHat? no I have PRoto Prof dampening and proto Min, and unless i TRY and equip 2 PROTO PROF DAMPENERS i get detected nevertheless. So not only i have ONLY 2 low slots, i must use them BOTH to avoid being detected... yeah seems fun.... |
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