As it seem there is a limitation on how much speed they can give a suit without screwing hitdetection completely and scouts seem to be on the edge. So in order to make scouts (feel) faster they must make every other suit slower.

They should give scouts some sort of harrassing skills like the min logi hacking bonus. Instead to remove the light weapon slot I would rather see a suit with two siedarms :). A buff to scan radius is badly needed especially for the gallente scout who is all about scouting.

I agree on the low health scouts should be fragile and fast and stealthy compared to all other suits. Unfortunately they are just fragile in the current state of the game...

I'd rather give up my grenade slot for the second equipment slot, personally. If I wanted to run one weapon, I'd just go logi

Hey, you know ... just my preference. I'm sure others would disagree. And I don't care too much about the scout suit's pitiful health ... but we need something to make up for it. It used to be speed, but that's much less useful now. I think the second equipment slot and a scan radius/profile buff would be a big boost, myself.

And the problem with losing a light slot for a second sidearm slot is that it'll wipe out the shotgun scouts. I'm running more sidearm builds (SP + SMG) than shotty lately, but some guys are straight up shotgun ninjas, and I'd hate to see those taken out of the equation...

Unless you're saying the recon scouts would have two sidearms plus two equipment slots, while the brawler scout suits would still be able to rock the shotty, but only have one equipment slot..?

Yeah, I like it, personally. And you were probably plenty clear ... I just haven't had enough coffee

If I may, while my personal scouting experience comes from using the free suits marketing keep giving us, would you be happy if the current scout suit was left paper thin, but given buffs back to speed, profile, scan radius and 2eq slots, but you swap your light slot for 2 side arm slots

Then we give a "welterweight" assasin suit, with a little more health and bonuses to damage at short range as well and prehaps regen, it keeps its light weapon slot, but doesn't get the extra speed and equipment slots the scout does.

Good Idea?

I would prefer if you were to respond with civility in mind!!
Edit forgot the "You", makes it sound like I would be happy, oops

Oh really? But that's how YOU play, not how I play. So you stating how I run is wrong shows that you either run different suits (other than Scout) or you just limit your own self to that play style. If I can hold a KDR above 4.50 (solely as a Scout) that runs in battle, still manages to make quota of pay (not plateau on ISK) and still hold my own against other Proto's. Then I guess Im doing something right. You perhaps on the other hand, not so much.

PS: And on top of that I rarely run in Squads and if I do run in a squad it's with 1 of my 4 Corp members.

I havent used my scout almost at all, I never trained profile dampening, and i hate the idea that i would need to train it to be useful at all.

I would give up my granade slot for another equipment slot tho, but i think one of the main things scouts need is a much bigger jumping higth, or some sort of micro burst jump pack, because there is allot of head higth terain it would be great to just jump over, or use to get into good sniping positions.

IMO from running Scouts since closed BETA. Here's a list I think would be viable:

1.) Smaller Hit Box

2.) A little bit more health over all not much, but enough to get by.

3.) Better Scan, Range and Dampening.

4.) Higher Stamina and Slight Speed Boost. (NOT A HUGE BUFF)

5.) The only class that should be able to mantle up objects as high as 8-10 feet.

6.) Suits that give the option for either 2 equipment slots (w/ No Grenade) or just the suit we have now. (1 grenade and 1 slot)

7.) Adaptive Camo like Old Snake from Metal Gear Solid 4. (NO ACTIVE CAMO) cough* cough* Sheathe......

8.) Boost on any item that is related to Biotics.

Not so the reason I say Adaptive Camo as opposed to Active is because you can still see the shape of your enemy and its not OP. Now with the new lights/shadowing and particle effects. It's strong but definitely not OP.

Shotgun Scout here.

I feel your frustration OP, but I can't imagine that boycotting the our gimped suit(s) will accelerate the fix timeline.
Scout rebalance is already in the works; last we heard from Wolfman, we'll see it deployed in 1.6 (possibly 1.5).

Big changes -- the kind needed to balance light and heavy suits against mediums -- can't be implemented via hotfix.

Then again, the Devs could always address via nerfbat the other side of the imbalance equation :-)
^ That'd be an effort Scouts could get behind, as we patiently await our Christmas buff.

- Shotty GoBang

Same here., Been using assault + laser rifle.

My proto minny doesnt stand a chance anymore.(PLUS I WANT a amarr scout >..>)

-Maps are to open and usually offer little cover
-Aim assist , while not a bad idea, is too strong making dodging with a scout impossible.
-Proto active scanners are way to acessible and easily equipped (well not on any suit,but logis. And logis are pretty damn common anyways{And most of them now are gallante allowing easier fitting for equipment}, so yeah easy to equip)
Active scanners are almost Impossible to avoid for gallante scouts and pretty sure impossible to evade while being a minnie...

So yeah.If im gonan be detected,i might as well run 800 armor and a Powerful Light weapon....

WHat? no
I have PRoto Prof dampening and proto Min, and unless i TRY and equip 2 PROTO PROF DAMPENERS i get detected nevertheless. So not only i have ONLY 2 low slots, i must use them BOTH to avoid being detected... yeah seems fun....

If I may, while my personal scouting experience comes from using the free suits marketing keep giving us, would you be happy if the current scout suit was left paper thin, but given buffs back to speed, profile, scan radius and 2eq slots, but you swap your light slot for 2 side arm slots

Then we give a "welterweight" assasin suit, with a little more health and bonuses to damage at short range as well and prehaps regen, it keeps its light weapon slot, but doesn't get the extra speed and equipment slots the scout does.

Good Idea?

I would prefer if you were to respond with civility in mind!!
Edit forgot the "You", makes it sound like I would be happy, oops