Hit detection in every build has been on the crappy side, so the 10% damage buff made sense. It made it possible to kill people despite missing a lot of shots due to no fault of our own. Now that hit detection is fixed, this game almost feels like a twitch shooter rather than a tracking shooter. Which could be easily rectified by taking away the 10% damage buff we got at the start of Uprising.

Weapons that should be excluded from damage drop- Flaylock, Scrambler Pistol, Burst AR (even the proto burst is trash atm), Swarm Launchers, Plasma Cannons

What with the recent but insufficient armour buff and complaints about this new-fangled AA and the shortening of TTK, I think instead of dropping damage CCP should look towards increasing HP values of suits and relevant modules.

Or increasing CPU/PG of dropsuits so more modules can be fitted.

To be honest, it all points towards tiercide right now. The simplification (and according to many, the oversimplification) of the gun game to what people like to call 'twitch' shooting means that tiers are already losing their value. Being caught out of position with prototype gear will get you killed as easily as being caught out of position in militia gear. Coupled with grenade spam, running expensive gear in pubs is worthless.

Hence, implement tiercide, where all dropsuits are equalised. This will allow for implementation of more variants since variants don't have to be balanced over std-adv-pro tiers.

For example, a Gallente scout suit with reduced movement penalty for armour plates, and a Caldari Assault suit with a bonus to sprint speed. These variants are unheard of currently because implementing them is so much more difficult.

With tiercide and all these dropsuit variants, players specialise into ROLES, which highlight strengths and also weaknesses. Right now, logistics and assault dropsuits perform almost exactly the same combat-wise, and heavies and scouts are underpowered outliers. Variants introduce more to battles, keeps you on your feet, keeps you thinking about the next move. This is infinitely better than simply dropping damage by 10% and trying to rectify the game as a shooter when we all know we don't want DUST to be good solely as an FPS.

10% doesn't make any different anyway maybe less 1 bullet?

i would also probs add forges, knives, and laser rifles to that list

there used to be a disparity in EHP amounts between the differing tiers of suits, which was done away with due to gear being too strong in the eyes of those without it. CCP made it more about modules instead of health, which i think is good as your fitting is that much more relevant instead of just having to accept that the other guy with the same exact fitting is better because his suit has more slots AND base health.

This made up distinction of "track shooter" is something you fanbois made up so you could justify this game as something worth playing.

For a game that its main goal is killing each other your sure get butthurt when you die. I havent actually played the game for two months. But from the vids i seen the aim assist is working. And the reason you see people taking damage when it appears you are not aiming at them directly is actually and issue we have had since forever. Wherever that area is isnt where their body is, but thats where their hitbox is at that time on your screen in correlation with the server.

Hit detection in every build has been on the crappy side, so the 10% damage buff made sense. It made it possible to kill people despite missing a lot of shots due to no fault of our own. Now that hit detection is fixed, this game almost feels like a twitch shooter rather than a tracking shooter. Which could be easily rectified by taking away the 10% damage buff we got at the start of Uprising.

Weapons that should be excluded from damage drop- Flaylock, Scrambler Pistol, Burst AR (even the proto burst is trash atm), Swarm Launchers, Plasma Cannons

Any weapon doing over 100% base damage to anything is ridiculous.

Personally, i like the game a lot more now that weapons actually look like they're actually doing damage. I dont see any need to reduce that at all.

there has been no damage buff

you are all just shocked that you are being hit (blame previous builds)

what you are now seeing is the CCPs planned TTK

Take the 10% away from ars.....keep it for hmg...

No weapons got buffed.

All weapons got the same 10% bonus that was being removed from the Weaponry skill.

Also, has Dust suddenly become a twitch shooter? A 600 HP target (your usual Assault/Logi) gets killed by around 14 AR bullets (with Proficiency 5). A 1100 HP target (your usual Sentinel) gets killed by around 26 AR bullets (with Proficiency 5).

That's a lot more bullets than twitch shooters operate with.

Even if you decreased damage by 10%, the 600 HP target would still get killed by around 16 AR bullets, and the 1100 HP target by around 29 AR bullets. That's not much of a difference to notice anyway.

No we are seeing there planned TTK -10% they actually said theymgave weapons a 10% damage buff, HROF ones anyway, to compensatate for hit detection, they also said they planned on taking it back, and removing the sharpshooter skill later on!!

They said they buffed all weapons' base damage by 10% because the 10% bonus on the Weaponry was removed. They never said they buffed weapon damage.

They never said anything about bad hit detection being the cause for any damage buff (that didn't even happen).

They never said anything about removing the 10% buff to all weapons' base damage.

I also don't think they ever said the current (not the former) Sharpshooter skills would be removed at some point either, but I'm not 100% on this one.

Hit detection in every build has been on the crappy side, so the 10% damage buff made sense. It made it possible to kill people despite missing a lot of shots due to no fault of our own. Now that hit detection is fixed, this game almost feels like a twitch shooter rather than a tracking shooter. Which could be easily rectified by taking away the 10% damage buff we got at the start of Uprising.

Weapons that should be excluded from damage drop- Flaylock, Scrambler Pistol, Burst AR (even the proto burst is trash atm), Swarm Launchers, Plasma Cannons