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broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 236	Posted - 2013.09.10 08:01:00 - [1] - Quote Look ladies and gents, we have to sort something out. The lack of communication and particularly the size of the new maps means we need more help getting around. Also some passengers need to know the basics - I don't want to rant and shout to the heavens F*ING BLUEBERRIES cus it gets us nowhere. Unless CCP decides to give us a command wheel like the squad leader has - except for passengers - to request destinations and highlight threats then this is the best I can do. I welcome all feedback. Now I'm not a tank driver and I since I have my own vehicles I'm rarely a passenger outside a squad owned vehicle so I would like your perspectives also. Infantry Ok I get the whole 'shoot to request pickup' thing some of us do, but really then what? Where do you want to go? If the driver gets to his destination then I'm sorry, you'll have to get out. Its not the isk (though to some it is) but its because you can't recall it and therefore you have to leave it to self destruct or let the enemy destroy it and give them +40WP and bring their team closer to an orbital. So I'm sorry but: If you get in someone else's vehicle you forfeit the ability to get to your desired destination. Once the driver has stopped get out immediately. Your a multi kill AV threat to our team the longer you stay Failure to comply gives the driver the right to destroy his vehicle with you in it by hurling it into brick walls, bailing out while nitro-boosting into enemy territory, driving into waste pits, redlining or any other cruel and interesting way he sees fit. Turrets Yes its all very exciting getting a big boy gun but for heavens sake consider the vehicle and the driver. You are permitted 1/2 shots or a short salvo on entering to establish what kind of weapon you have. After that DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU NEED TO - The driver is getting enough attention without you giving away your presence. Your gun is not big enough to take out buildings or destroy the planet, stop trying. If a target is in your sights and the reticle isn't red then forget it. Your out of range. Don't fire on installations - Their AI is better now and if the driver isn't expecting it you'll get killed. Wait for the driver to start gunning and help keep its shields down. But remember your priority is infantry so keep an eye out If your conservative you can not only get kills easier but also alert the driver of threats around him so you both rack up more points Tanks We need them, and they need us (ok, lets face facts, without proto tanks they need us more). Lets give them a hand Once the tanks start rolling the enemy will be cycling into AV kits - Which means less Locus Nades and AR's to deal with. Push forward along with the tank and take the objective. Change you priority of targets to the AV users. Keep the enemy out of grenade range of the tank and flush them out of cover. Tank drivers - In exchange for this don't run into us and turn us into a paralysed hood ornament LAV drivers - Tanks have right of way. Failure to comply will result in your precious car being turned into a cube at the HAV users discretion Dropships Forgive me if I get personal at this stage All that has been mentioned on turrets applies again x20. Keep the noise down! DS's have all the structural integrity of wet paper bags in sandstorms - If I stop to let you out, GET THE HELL OUT FAST. I can't hang around admiring the scenery. I know CCP has decided to paralyse passengers so you cant look around but QUIT FIDGETING IN THE SEATS -I swear I'll turn this ship around and go home!! Unless your in a Assault** dropship assume the driver doesn't want you gunning for him. We usually have dedicated corp mates to do that. Also only shoot when in a hover and quite close to the ground Remember you can still be shot. The driver may try to keep you out of harms way but usually has his hands full. Keep an eye on your meters in the lower left (inner circles) I need a lay down
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1543	Posted - 2013.09.10 08:25:00 - [2] - Quote shooting at a tank will not get them to stop for you, we are not transports. if we stop at an empty enemy objective get out and go hack it, don't just stare at it. if you are in my tank and you see a AV guy by himself that you can't kill in the first 2 second of seeing it jump out and hunt them down. for all vehicles if we stop somewhere for a long time where there is nothing to do, its a cue to get out, im going to recall my vehicle, switching spots and shooting my turret is just annoying. if you see a tank on a ridge with a rail cannon then there is no reason to jump in. its not going anywhere and the small turrets don't have enough range to be useful, keep moving.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 349	Posted - 2013.09.10 08:50:00 - [3] - Quote Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!!
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1544	Posted - 2013.09.10 08:57:00 - [4] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 351	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:11:00 - [5] - Quote ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? .
Omareth Nasadra QcGOLD 44	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:19:00 - [6] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . lol tanker qq'ing that infantry use them as cover, of course i will use you as cover dumbasssss!!
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 653	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:22:00 - [7] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . What cover could be provided if we're rolling towards 3 PRO swarms? Plus, we're faster than you.
MarasdF Loron Dark Knightz Corp. 127	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:26:00 - [8] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . Swarms are now stronger than ever so we can't afford to stop anymore or else we will be dead before we can accelerate again.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 351	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:26:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . What cover could be provided if we're rolling towards 3 PRO swarms? Plus, we're faster than you. Well you see thats just it, if you have infantry supporting you, we will take care of the swarms, you cant dodge them so going a little slower isnt going to be that much of a problem. Or does the fact that you are faster instantly mean that we can't expect any kind of infantry vechile interplay? At the moment tanking consists of steamroll enemy at point A, leave to steamroll point B, infantry follow behind like lapdogs and mop up your mess!! If you believe thats the way its done, I think your gonna get a suprise in 1.5!!
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 351	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:28:00 - [10] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . Swarms are now stronger than ever so we can't afford to stop anymore or else we will be dead before we can accelerate again. If youre out in the open, what difference does it make?, your not gonna bug out intime, unless you l sacrificed tanking for speed!!

MarasdF Loron Dark Knightz Corp. 127	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:31:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . What cover could be provided if we're rolling towards 3 PRO swarms? Plus, we're faster than you. Well you see thats just it, if you have infantry supporting you, we will take care of the swarms, you cant dodge them so going a little slower isnt going to be that much of a problem. Or does the fact that you are faster instantly mean that we can't expect any kind of infantry vechile interplay? At the moment tanking consists of steamroll enemy at point A, leave to steamroll point B, infantry follow behind like lapdogs and mop up your mess!! If you believe thats the way its done, I think your gonna get a suprise in 1.5!! I don't think that you realize we will die before average blueberry will kill the guy with swarms, because generally we will die before we can shoot swarms guy out in the open (game freezes for a sec or so upon swarm impact, leaving enough time to fire again) even with our big "OHK" blasters.
MarasdF Loron Dark Knightz Corp. 127	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:33:00 - [12] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . Swarms are now stronger than ever so we can't afford to stop anymore or else we will be dead before we can accelerate again. If youre out in the open, what difference does it make?, your not gonna bug out intime, unless you l sacrificed tanking for speed!! Oh please, tell me more about how to tank. I have tanked only 9 months so I need some advices from infantry.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1547	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:39:00 - [13] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . how do you plan on keeping up? how are you preventing AV when your next to us hiding. its not our fault you have no cover and using us is a bad move that just end up with dead infantry. PC is the best training for this because if you use us for cover 80% you will die from friendly fire because we just ran you over. you want cover hop in and get out near cover, hiding behind us is just going to leave you in the open when we have to move which will happen and there will not be a notice to you. so you lived a added 3 maybe 8 seconds max because you hide behind something you shouldn't of.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 352	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:40:00 - [14] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . Swarms are now stronger than ever so we can't afford to stop anymore or else we will be dead before we can accelerate again. If youre out in the open, what difference does it make?, your not gonna bug out intime, unless you l sacrificed tanking for speed!! Oh please, tell me more about how to tank. I have tanked only 9 months so I need some advices from infantry. Well then, enlighten me, tell me how your more than just an attack dog, and infantry is just a guy that has to deal with $#@& you leave behind, tell me apart from butchering a load of people you are tactical assest to your squad, tell me what you do as a tanker that benifits your team more then you? Please, im prepared to listen, but my entire experince with tanks, both inside and out, both piloting myself, to being pitted against one, has boiled down to a gung ho approach of "its alright lads sit back ive got this" Edit: Top half prehaps a little too aggresive!!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1894	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:44:00 - [15] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it? Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever) Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . What cover could be provided if we're rolling towards 3 PRO swarms? Plus, we're faster than you. Well you see thats just it, if you have infantry supporting you, we will take care of the swarms, you cant dodge them so going a little slower isnt going to be that much of a problem. Or does the fact that you are faster instantly mean that we can't expect any kind of infantry vechile interplay? At the moment tanking consists of steamroll enemy at point A, leave to steamroll point B, infantry follow behind like lapdogs and mop up your mess!! If you believe thats the way its done, I think your gonna get a suprise in 1.5!! Yet to see you guys get off your asses and hunt down that AV.... if you did my Tank losses would be significantly less.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 352	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:47:00 - [16] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . What cover could be provided if we're rolling towards 3 PRO swarms? Plus, we're faster than you. Well you see thats just it, if you have infantry supporting you, we will take care of the swarms, you cant dodge them so going a little slower isnt going to be that much of a problem. Or does the fact that you are faster instantly mean that we can't expect any kind of infantry vechile interplay? At the moment tanking consists of steamroll enemy at point A, leave to steamroll point B, infantry follow behind like lapdogs and mop up your mess!! If you believe thats the way its done, I think your gonna get a suprise in 1.5!! Yet to see you guys get off your asses and hunt down that AV.... if you did my Tank losses would be significantly less. Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1894	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:50:00 - [17] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong.
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 204	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:51:00 - [18] - Quote As a tank driver I kill stuff. Enemy tanks, enemy installations, neutral installations, enemy infantry. I would roll over my own infantry to kill them, if it is necessary. I drive through friendly dropships, if they are parked in my way - leaving plenty of allies behind, dying in a fire. Seriously, **** you infantry.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1548	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:54:00 - [19] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! grab a LAV or even better a dropship if you need to go that far. they are transport that use can use to well trasnport yourself over that 100m gap into better positions where there is cover. your not really wanting 6+ people walking behind a tank as it walks up to an objective and if you do your insane.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 352	Posted - 2013.09.10 09:57:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong. Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice!

Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 352	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:01:00 - [21] - Quote ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! grab a LAV or even better a dropship if you need to go that far. they are transport that use can use to well trasnport yourself over that 100m gap into better positions where there is cover. your not really wanting 6+ people walking behind a tank as it walks up to an objective and if you do your insane. Well that tactic works today, I'm understanding that tanks are little squishy at the moment, but as dashki illistrated so well, tankers (at lest 99% of the ones ive dealt with) are just plain greedy, yet you want us to take care of infantry av, what do we get in return?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1548	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:03:00 - [22] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong. Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! you can't get rid of AV if your using my tank for cover so i get nothing, you get nothing and in fact the only one getting anything is the AV because it is just an even easier target then.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1896	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:03:00 - [23] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong. Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! You just have to kill the other ground guys, I have to deal with the dangerous **** like other tanks, and OB's. Do infantry even want to win in DUST sounds like you are overly focused on personal performance. Im bringing 5x as much ISK on average to a fight than infantryman. Why would you not defend one of your most important assets on the map?
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 965	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:03:00 - [24] - Quote Yes, for God's sake take out the AV and Swarm guys. Like Agent Smith said, "Find them and destroy them!" Simple. Also, for the love of God, if the opposing team brings out a tank, can you please put your attention on the tank and lets work together to take it out? I'm so tired of the tank being ignored. Then the opposing team uses the tank to back us up against the redline or pin us to a location while infantry runs around picking us off in the chaos. Trust me, that strategy of "hurry up and kill the reds before their tank destroys us" most of time does not work. And yes, have some courtesy on the field. If the driver gets out of his vehicle to hack an objective. Don't just jump out and take his vehicle. Whenever he gets out, you get out. I probably want to recall my vehicle and can't because Sgt Numb Nuts is just sitting there waiting on the cruise around the park in New Eden
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1548	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:05:00 - [25] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! grab a LAV or even better a dropship if you need to go that far. they are transport that use can use to well trasnport yourself over that 100m gap into better positions where there is cover. your not really wanting 6+ people walking behind a tank as it walks up to an objective and if you do your insane. Well that tactic works today, I'm understanding that tanks are little squishy at the moment, but as dashki illistrated so well, tankers (at lest 99% of the ones ive dealt with) are just plain greedy, yet you want us to take care of infantry av, what do we get in return? right... you are insane, i got it. i am done with the likes of you.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1896	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:05:00 - [26] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Yes, for God's sake take out the AV and Swarm guys. Like Agent Smith said, "Find them and destroy them!" Simple. Also, for the love of God, if the opposing team brings out a tank, can you please put your attention on the tank and lets work together to take it out? I'm so tired of the tank being ignored. Then the opposing team uses the tank to back us up against the redline or pin us to a location while infantry runs around picking us off in the chaos. Trust me, that strategy of "hurry up and kill the reds before their tank destroys us" most of time does not work. And yes, have some courtesy on the field. If the driver gets out of his vehicle to hack an objective. Don't just jump out and take his vehicle. Whenever he gets out, you get out. I probably want to recall my vehicle and can't because Sgt Numb Nuts is just sitting there waiting on the cruise around the park in New Eden Pretty much. A lot of time I play its Merc 1-"were kind of busy but I'm sure you can deal with that tank" Tanker- "Oh okay where is it" Merc 1 "Right behind you"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1896	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:07:00 - [27] - Quote ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ladwar wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! grab a LAV or even better a dropship if you need to go that far. they are transport that use can use to well trasnport yourself over that 100m gap into better positions where there is cover. your not really wanting 6+ people walking behind a tank as it walks up to an objective and if you do your insane. Well that tactic works today, I'm understanding that tanks are little squishy at the moment, but as dashki illistrated so well, tankers (at lest 99% of the ones ive dealt with) are just plain greedy, yet you want us to take care of infantry av, what do we get in return? right... you are insane, i got it. i am done with the likes of you. AGAIN WE ******* KEEP TANKS AND HEAVY INFANTRY pushes off of you? What do you want tanks to do besides kill infantry and breach points like they are designed to do?
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 965	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:08:00 - [28] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong. Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! This is unbelievable. C'mon don't tell me BloodThirsty is allowing his corp members to think like this. This is a team effort here. The tank is the big bully on the field. It's an anchor that can provide leverage for your team. To think selfishly by saying that you're infantry and you got other crap to worry about only tells me that you're the type to leave your teammates to dry. The type that would allow a red to kill his teammate just to get the 50 points for the kill. That's terrible. That means you're just another red posing as a green/blue. Not only do I have to worry about the other team, I have to watch you because you definitely don't have my six.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1550	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:14:00 - [29] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong. Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! This is unbelievable. C'mon don't tell me BloodThirsty is allowing his corp members to think like this. This is a team effort here. The tank is the big bully on the field. It's an anchor that can provide leverage for your team. To think selfishly by saying that you're infantry and you got other crap to worry about only tells me that you're the type to leave your teammates to dry. The type that would allow a red to kill his teammate just to get the 50 points for the kill. That's terrible. That means you're just another red posing as a green/blue. Not only do I have to worry about the other team, I have to watch you because you definitely don't have my six. said it best^
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1898	Posted - 2013.09.10 10:14:00 - [30] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong. Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! This is unbelievable. C'mon don't tell me BloodThirsty is allowing his corp members to think like this. This is a team effort here. The tank is the big bully on the field. It's an anchor that can provide leverage for your team. To think selfishly by saying that you're infantry and you got other crap to worry about only tells me that you're the type to leave your teammates to dry. The type that would allow a red to kill his teammate just to get the 50 points for the kill. That's terrible. That means you're just another red posing as a green/blue. Not only do I have to worry about the other team, I have to watch you because you definitely don't have my six. You Tank Micheal? Care to teach me some tips and tricks sometime. My "little Soma that could" will have your back.



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