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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.10 08:50:00 -
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Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it?
Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever)
Dropships I feel for you bro!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
351
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Posted - 2013.09.10 09:11:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it?
Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever)
Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map.
How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!!
Surely? . |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
351
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Posted - 2013.09.10 09:26:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:ladwar wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it?
Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever)
Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . What cover could be provided if we're rolling towards 3 PRO swarms? Plus, we're faster than you.
Well you see thats just it, if you have infantry supporting you, we will take care of the swarms, you cant dodge them so going a little slower isnt going to be that much of a problem.
Or does the fact that you are faster instantly mean that we can't expect any kind of infantry vechile interplay?
At the moment tanking consists of steamroll enemy at point A, leave to steamroll point B, infantry follow behind like lapdogs and mop up your mess!! If you believe thats the way its done, I think your gonna get a suprise in 1.5!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
351
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Posted - 2013.09.10 09:28:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:ladwar wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Are LAV drivers aware sometimes, we ask you to go somewhere by shooting at it?
Tanks need to be prepared to move slower whdn pushing so allied infantry can use it as cover (now more than ever)
Dropships I feel for you bro!! if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more. when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map. How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . Swarms are now stronger than ever so we can't afford to stop anymore or else we will be dead before we can accelerate again.
If youre out in the open, what difference does it make?, your not gonna bug out intime, unless you l
sacrificed tanking for speed!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2013.09.10 09:40:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:ladwar wrote:
if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more.
when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map.
How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . Swarms are now stronger than ever so we can't afford to stop anymore or else we will be dead before we can accelerate again. If youre out in the open, what difference does it make?, your not gonna bug out intime, unless you l sacrificed tanking for speed!! Oh please, tell me more about how to tank. I have tanked only 9 months so I need some advices from infantry.
Well then, enlighten me, tell me how your more than just an attack dog, and infantry is just a guy that has to deal with $#@& you leave behind, tell me apart from butchering a load of people you are tactical assest to your squad, tell me what you do as a tanker that benifits your team more then you?
Please, im prepared to listen, but my entire experince with tanks, both inside and out, both piloting myself, to being pitted against one, has boiled down to a gung ho approach of "its alright lads sit back ive got this"
Edit: Top half prehaps a little too aggresive!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2013.09.10 09:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:ladwar wrote:
if your using a tank for cover then your doing something wrong. if you using to provide suppressive fire maybe but they are taking our unlimited ammo away so not is not a role most tank will be willing to do any more.
when i do use mine for transport i don't mind a shoot to where you want to but most of the time it is just for me and if you weren't planning on coming with then don't hop in, it not like im using to get to a sniper spot or some remote area of the map.
How is infantry using tank for cover wrong? If we are pushing across open terrain, or assaulting an enemy entrenched in a socket,we need cover, especially since 1.4, if there is no cover you are essentially exexpecting us to run across no man's land while our enemy picks us of for target practice, if you want us to suppress av attempts for you, we need cover to do it from!! Surely? . What cover could be provided if we're rolling towards 3 PRO swarms? Plus, we're faster than you. Well you see thats just it, if you have infantry supporting you, we will take care of the swarms, you cant dodge them so going a little slower isnt going to be that much of a problem. Or does the fact that you are faster instantly mean that we can't expect any kind of infantry vechile interplay? At the moment tanking consists of steamroll enemy at point A, leave to steamroll point B, infantry follow behind like lapdogs and mop up your mess!! If you believe thats the way its done, I think your gonna get a suprise in 1.5!! Yet to see you guys get off your asses and hunt down that AV.... if you did my Tank losses would be significantly less.
Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2013.09.10 09:57:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!!
Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong.
Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement.
A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2013.09.10 10:01:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!!
grab a LAV or even better a dropship if you need to go that far. they are transport that use can use to well trasnport yourself over that 100m gap into better positions where there is cover. your not really wanting 6+ people walking behind a tank as it walks up to an objective and if you do your insane.
Well that tactic works today, I'm understanding that tanks are little squishy at the moment, but as dashki illistrated so well, tankers (at lest 99% of the ones ive dealt with) are just plain greedy, yet you want us to take care of infantry av, what do we get in return? |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2013.09.10 10:14:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!!
Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong. Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! You just have to kill the other ground guys, I have to deal with the dangerous **** like other tanks, and OB's. Do infantry even want to win in DUST sounds like you are overly focused on personal performance. Im bringing 5x as much ISK on average to a fight than infantryman. Why would you not defend one of your most important assets on the map?
I could easily say the same about tankers, when you sit there going 20-0 who gets the most benifit, me or you?? You bring 5x the amount of isk, but you loose it considerably less, why don't you defend THE most important assest on the map.
Ladwar, of course we can pop a guy av ing your tank, we expect to be moving and firing, with you not just walking behind like a bimble!! You could also link up a sniper and have him help? |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2013.09.10 10:23:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Some oc us do but its a big hard, when there is 100m gap with no cover!!
Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong. Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! This is unbelievable. C'mon don't tell me BloodThirsty is allowing his corp members to think like this. This is a team effort here. The tank is the big bully on the field. It's an anchor that can provide leverage for your team. To think selfishly by saying that you're infantry and you got other crap to worry about only tells me that you're the type to leave your teammates to dry. The type that would allow a red to kill his teammate just to get the 50 points for the kill. That's terrible. That means you're just another red posing as a green/blue. Not only do I have to worry about the other team, I have to watch you because you definitely don't have my six.
I have you know, I work very well with my squad, I never leave them unless im setting up a flanking posistion. That doesn't excuse the fact that they happen to just up and leave when you need them, I have co-ordinated with tankers before and when you work together it can be a juggernaut of death, and I dont see how swandwiching a tank between one of your squishy infantry fellows and few ar rounds should be that much of a bother, even if all it is too allow him to escape and repair, or push forward!! |
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
353
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Posted - 2013.09.10 10:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong.
Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! You just have to kill the other ground guys, I have to deal with the dangerous **** like other tanks, and OB's. Do infantry even want to win in DUST sounds like you are overly focused on personal performance. Im bringing 5x as much ISK on average to a fight than infantryman. Why would you not defend one of your most important assets on the map? I could easily say the same about tankers, when you sit there going 20-0 who gets the most benifit, me or you?? You bring 5x the amount of isk, but you loose it considerably less, why don't you defend THE most important assest on the map. Ladwar, of course we can pop a guy av ing your tank, we expect to be moving and firing, with you not just walking behind like a bimble!! You could also link up a sniper and have him help? I can go 29-0 and not win the match, once that happens the entire battle was for nothing.... oh wait I did this the other day.... infantry let down again. I am spending my time in constant fear of the following things RAIL TURRETS FORGEGUNNERS SWARM LAUNCHERS AV GRENADES OTHER TANKS ASSAULT DROPSHIPS 3 of these thinks are easy kills for infantry, the turrets are even easier since no one pays attention while gunning on them. You will often find me in the thick of things at enemy held objectives trying to win the match. All the infantry I see are off ******* around in the hills trying to score a 50 point kill..... really even when I was infantry I went balls to the wall for my team every game. **** your selfish ass mind-set.
Now you see, your telling me im stupid for complaining at tanks for being selfish, you then tell me you do your best to help the team, so as far as I can tell ill have no problem with you, I too put the effort in every match, I suppress and confuse the enemy, I make sure my team has time to retreat if we need to. The whole thing this stemed from is that every now and again, a tank can be used for more than just blowing stuff up, and like I said a lot of tankers Ive experienced dont understand this. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
353
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Posted - 2013.09.10 10:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Fact of the matter is if I can do that job better when I get out of my tank than a specced infantryman you are doing something wrong.
Im not specced specifically for Anti AV ops, but some of us do out best but in new eden, its adapt or die right? So why am I gonnago out of MY way to save YOUR tank, when all I get in return is 1 extra kill, wasted ammo, you stealing a load of my kills and then not even protecting me when I cap a point. Its completly illogical to assume im going to give a Monkey's uncle to assume im going to care enough, when I get nothing out of the agreement. A bird doesn't sit on a hippos back for fun he wants food, and the hippo allows it because he wants rid of lice! This is unbelievable. C'mon don't tell me BloodThirsty is allowing his corp members to think like this. This is a team effort here. The tank is the big bully on the field. It's an anchor that can provide leverage for your team. To think selfishly by saying that you're infantry and you got other crap to worry about only tells me that you're the type to leave your teammates to dry. The type that would allow a red to kill his teammate just to get the 50 points for the kill. That's terrible. That means you're just another red posing as a green/blue. Not only do I have to worry about the other team, I have to watch you because you definitely don't have my six. I have you know, I work very well with my squad, I never leave them unless im setting up a flanking posistion. That doesn't excuse the fact that they happen to just up and leave when you need them, I have co-ordinated with tankers before and when you work together it can be a juggernaut of death, and I dont see how swandwiching a tank between one of your squishy infantry fellows and few ar rounds should be that much of a bother, even if all it is too allow him to escape and repair, or push forward!! All we need is to know that if some one is firing swarms at us, you will kill them. That is all. During a push if the tank goes down the entire push is less likely to succeed.
Then you and I will never have a problem!!  |
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