I have been playing around with different suits and the most surprising was the BPO. Specifically my Gallante starter BPO. I added a GEK to the suit and went 17-2 in the suit. I was taking out heavies, advance and proto's with ease. This should not be, its like buying a Toyota Corolla and out performing a Formula 1 Race car. A starter fit should just be that, a beginning step to new and better gear. I know it is aim assist, but I was not using aim assist. It seems these days that shields and armor deplete faster than in the past. So my point is, until they fix this issue I am running my BPO suit and putting the ISK away. Some day I hope I have something to spend it on that will not be a waste after a patch comes out.

You changed it to a GEK. A new player cant get a GEK, plus any CORE upgrades you skilled into are applied also making the starter fit better.

New players can get GEK on day one.

EDIT: Apparently I cannot spell anymore.

New players can get GEK on day one.

EDIT: Apparently I cannot spell anymore.

EDIT: Apparently I cannot spell anymore.

But a Gek is easy to obtain. You can easily skill into one on your first day. Its the easiest weapon to skill into. Or here is one you can buy an Aurum equivalent.

I have been playing around with different suits and the most surprising was the BPO. Specifically my Gallante starter BPO. I added a GEK to the suit and went 17-2 in the suit. I was taking out heavies, advance and proto's with ease. This should not be, its like buying a Toyota Corolla and out performing a Formula 1 Race car. A starter fit should just be that, a beginning step to new and better gear. I know it is aim assist, but I was not using aim assist. It seems these days that shields and armor deplete faster than in the past. So my point is, until they fix this issue I am running my BPO suit and putting the ISK away. Some day I hope I have something to spend it on that will not be a waste after a patch comes out.

But a Gek is easy to obtain. You can easily skill into one on your first day. Its the easiest weapon to skill into. Or here is one you can buy an Aurum equivalent.

So what your saying is, Ccp just added back in hundreds of new items that are viable? It's not just proto vs proto now. What's the point if having mlt, and std gear if it is not supposed to kill you.

I personally enjoy the fact that my cheaper suits are viable again. And I can still drop in my proto sets when I want an extra edge.

There is only 1 King...

Is it Elvis Presley?

Is it Elvis Presley?

it used to be....

Don't worry about it, I haven't seen the grammar police anywhere yet. Besides it's internet based, not school/work related.

I have been playing around with different suits and the most surprising was the BPO. Specifically my Gallante starter BPO. I added a GEK to the suit and went 17-2 in the suit. I was taking out heavies, advance and proto's with ease. This should not be, its like buying a Toyota Corolla and out performing a Formula 1 Race car. A starter fit should just be that, a beginning step to new and better gear. I know it is aim assist, but I was not using aim assist. It seems these days that shields and armor deplete faster than in the past. So my point is, until they fix this issue I am running my BPO suit and putting the ISK away. Some day I hope I have something to spend it on that will not be a waste after a patch comes out.

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Proto is op i cant put the sp into it and its beating me

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BPO's are free and i can stomp proto suits and needs no sp

Will this never end

P.S I use my gallente scout bpo suit with 2 toxin smg bpos, shield bpos and shield regulator bpos.. and i believe im more effective with it due to the fact i have 0 loss and i go like hell
So yeh, dont remove my bpos.. i like them

I have been playing around with different suits and the most surprising was the BPO. Specifically my Gallante starter BPO. I added a GEK to the suit and went 17-2 in the suit. I was taking out heavies, advance and proto's with ease. This should not be, its like buying a Toyota Corolla and out performing a Formula 1 Race car. A starter fit should just be that, a beginning step to new and better gear. I know it is aim assist, but I was not using aim assist. It seems these days that shields and armor deplete faster than in the past. So my point is, until they fix this issue I am running my BPO suit and putting the ISK away. Some day I hope I have something to spend it on that will not be a waste after a patch comes out.

There is only 1 King...

You say that like militia couldn't kill you before. If you think so, you've not met many militia forges I imagine.

I think the point of the thread was to illustrate, if bpo's/militia are as effective as adv/proto, what is the point of skilling into higher tiers?

Wrong the economy is not supposed to be built around you using your best gear all the time, your supposed to use basic stuff and pull out the best of the best kit for when its needed. And the differences with MLT and Pro gear should not be worlds apart. The Balance with suit tiers is fine. PRO gear should not carry a bad player.

I have been playing around with different suits and the most surprising was the BPO. Specifically my Gallante starter BPO. I added a GEK to the suit and went 17-2 in the suit. I was taking out heavies, advance and proto's with ease. This should not be, its like buying a Toyota Corolla and out performing a Formula 1 Race car. A starter fit should just be that, a beginning step to new and better gear. I know it is aim assist, but I was not using aim assist. It seems these days that shields and armor deplete faster than in the past. So my point is, until they fix this issue I am running my BPO suit and putting the ISK away. Some day I hope I have something to spend it on that will not be a waste after a patch comes out.

The point is that Proto gear was never designed to be as popular as it is. And it certainly was never designed to make any player an offensive or defensive juggernaut.

Proto gear...or any higher tier gear is designed to give a player a slight advantage. The slight advantage, say one would need in a more competitive setting. Or for a special instance...like, you are in a highly contested match and in order to edge ahead you HAVE to take this one more point...so you and your team all switch to Proto gear to make the push and capture the point.

The problem is because outside of vehicles...there is not proper ISK sinks in the game. Players can run fairly advanced fittings each and every match and still make a profit or at least break even. The abundance of advanced fittings has become 'the norm' when it was never intended to be so.

I never understood why they lowered the prices on advanced and prototype gear. It has only helped facilitate the above scenario.