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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:51:00 -
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Wolfman did an excellent job in 1.4 and i am beyond excited to see what he has done for tanks. Please tell us when we can expect to see those patch notes! |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
336
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:55:00 -
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If it was like last time, it should be about 15 days.
It was about a week before, if I remember correctly.
Munch |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
565
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:59:00 -
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He said that he fixed the vehicle to infantry collision model, and he really did. I like to see if he can keep it rolling....... |
Callsign Tailsman
BlackList Flight Group
6
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:40:00 -
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i'd like to see a new vehicle atleast. since its a all vehicles patch |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
621
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Posted - 2013.09.08 07:58:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Wolfman did an excellent job in 1.4 and i am beyond excited to see what he has done for tanks. Please tell us when we can expect to see those patch notes! I'd prefer something weekly if it's not set in stone, so we could comment on something and possibly have it altered. |
Sona Nara
DUST University Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:10:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: I'd prefer something weekly if it's not set in stone, so we could comment on something and possibly have it altered.
That's not really patch notes you want, that's a dev blog you want, or something like this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985&find=unread Personally I don't want the devs doing weekly blogs for every feature they're working on. Those things take a lot of time to do and I'd rather they spend that time working on those features. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
566
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:14:00 -
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Sona Nara wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: I'd prefer something weekly if it's not set in stone, so we could comment on something and possibly have it altered.
That's not really patch notes you want, that's a dev blog you want, or something like this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985&find=unread Personally I don't want the devs doing weekly blogs for every feature they're working on. Those things take a lot of time to do and I'd rather they spend that time working on those features.
Not the dev blogs, but rather him coming on the forums and talking with us. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
621
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:17:00 -
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Sona Nara wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: I'd prefer something weekly if it's not set in stone, so we could comment on something and possibly have it altered.
That's not really patch notes you want, that's a dev blog you want, or something like this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985&find=unread. Personally I don't want the debs doing weekly blogs for every feature they're working on. Those things take a lot of time to do and I'd rather they spend that time working on those features. As has been pointed out many times before, this isn't just changing a few numbers. They're doing a complete overhaul on a niche part of the game, as well as overhauling AV and how the two interact. Plus, when Uprising deployed, they changed how the vehicle powergrid skill worked, but didn't change the description in-game. It was wasted SP to get that skill to 5. As such, rightly so I believe, tankers lost faith in CCP for a little while, but as usual, we overcame it.
Again
This isn't a problem like the TAR rifles, flaylock, or Caldari Logi suits, where they get abused like crazy and that ends up in a nerf. People cry respec when things like that happen because the flavor of the month was taken away.
This is a total redesign of how vehicles and AV operate. There's a lot of SP at stake for individuals. They'll be adding some skills, removing some, as well as changing how some operate. I don't believe it would be difficult if on a Friday, Wolfman made maybe a 3-paragrah post telling us what they accomplished for the week, and asking people what they think.
It would also be great if they'd listen to the pilots, not the guys that consider Lai Dais to be all the AV they need. If the other team doesn't have AV to counter tanks, why should we be nerfed because matchmaking put 3 tankers against a team with no better than STD AV? Not our fault. Scotty got drunk again. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
621
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:18:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Sona Nara wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: I'd prefer something weekly if it's not set in stone, so we could comment on something and possibly have it altered.
That's not really patch notes you want, that's a dev blog you want, or something like this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985&find=unread Personally I don't want the devs doing weekly blogs for every feature they're working on. Those things take a lot of time to do and I'd rather they spend that time working on those features. Not the dev blogs, but rather him coming on the forums and talking with us. This too |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
64
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:49:00 -
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My hav still dies by running over pebbles :-( |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
566
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Posted - 2013.09.08 08:53:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:My hav still dies by running over pebbles :-(
Wipe your nose Money *****! We got another 22-30 days or so left! |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
642
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:40:00 -
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Love the new tqcnet changes. Ice been going like 29:0 every match vs 12:0 in 1.3 BC I HAZ BLACK OPZ TANKZ!!! So awesome. |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1245
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:51:00 -
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1.5 Notes
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CharCharOdell wrote: If you don't know who Void Echo is, you're the real scrub.
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The legend345
TeamPlayers EoN.
952
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:23:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:1.5 Notes____________________________________________ CharCharOdell wrote: If you don't know who Void Echo is, you're the real scrub.
Thats nothing but a theory of vehicles. Until they are stats we know nothing. We wont be able to determine what kind of gameplay the new tanks bring. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4065
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:39:00 -
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Just wait until the week before October. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
94
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:51:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:He said that he fixed the vehicle to infantry collision model, and he really did. I like to see if he can keep it rolling.......
Was over nerfed... and that'ts a fact... went from a majority of my deaths belonging to playing in the streets and getting ran over... to not getting ran over one time since the patch...
Yah that is emulated across DUST... so... did he fix it? or just silence the majority... balance... ffs..... isn't tipped to one side. no matter if I'm on the side it got tipped towards.
Maybe one day we will actually have full body ground features... so when we get hit we land on our face and have to get up and are stunned for a period doing so.
Edit* I can get ran over by a friendly tank now and die... or die jumping out of a friendly dropship. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1745
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:52:00 -
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Here's a synopsis of what Wolfman wrote
- Possible Weakening of Base Hulls
- Turret ammunition is finite
- New turrets
- New Shield Recharge Mechanics
- Armor regen is Passive
- Pilot Dropsuit (maybe a little after 1.5 though)
- Feedback in one form or another (possibly TACNET) to understand when a vehicle activated a module
- Small Turrets no longer required
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
623
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Posted - 2013.09.08 17:06:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Here's a synopsis of what Wolfman wrote - Possible Weakening of Base Hulls
- Turret ammunition is finite
- New turrets
- New Shield Recharge Mechanics
- Armor regen is Passive
- Pilot Dropsuit (maybe a little after 1.5 though)
- Feedback in one form or another (possibly TACNET) to understand when a vehicle activated a module
- Small Turrets no longer required
How can you possibly construe weakening of base hulls? |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3563
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Posted - 2013.09.08 17:13:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Wolfman did an excellent job in 1.4 and i am beyond excited to see what he has done for tanks. Please tell us when we can expect to see those patch notes! I can't wait to see those new Active Hardeners in action.
I would say that on the graphical front, the thrust and headlights of Dropships probably shouldn't be being counted as part of the aircraft body, like they are now.
If you look at a Dropship running active mods, that mesh animation now wraps around the thrust and lights. Looks kind of amusing, honestly. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
569
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Posted - 2013.09.08 17:14:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:He said that he fixed the vehicle to infantry collision model, and he really did. I like to see if he can keep it rolling....... Was over nerfed... and that'ts a fact... went from a majority of my deaths belonging to playing in the streets and getting ran over... to not getting ran over one time since the patch... Yah that is emulated across DUST... so... did he fix it? or just silence the majority... balance... ffs..... isn't tipped to one side. no matter if I'm on the side it got tipped towards. Maybe one day we will actually have full body ground features... so when we get hit we land on our face and have to get up and are stunned for a period doing so. Edit* I can get ran over by a friendly tank now and die... or die jumping out of a friendly dropship.
I've ran over at least 200 people since the drop of 1.4 (note: I don't try and run over people, as that's lame, but rather, I swerve if they're close to my LLV). You just have to now go close to full speed to do so. People who was going slow and still running people over just hasn't figured that out yet. |
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
152
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Posted - 2013.09.08 17:40:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Wolfman did an excellent job in 1.4 and i am beyond excited to see what he has done for tanks. Please tell us when we can expect to see those patch notes! Wasted skill points on limbus and madrugar |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1745
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Posted - 2013.09.08 18:50:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: How can you possibly construe weakening of base hulls?
Quote: Make base vehicles susceptible. An unfitted vehicle is little more than a weak hull. Base HP does not make a vehicle powerful. Only through fitting can a vehicle become a true threat on the battlefield.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985&find=unread |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8151
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:35:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: How can you possibly construe weakening of base hulls?
Quote: Make base vehicles susceptible. An unfitted vehicle is little more than a weak hull. Base HP does not make a vehicle powerful. Only through fitting can a vehicle become a true threat on the battlefield.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985&find=unread
Basically this language means that focus of the vehicle will shift over to the modules. So while hulls (IE ALL VEHICLES) may be getting nerfed, the modules are being massively buffed to make up for it. So there would be very notable differences if you slap 1 armor plate on one vehicle verses slapping 2 armor plates on and a worlds of a difference apart if you slap 3 on. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
623
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:11:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: How can you possibly construe weakening of base hulls?
Quote: Make base vehicles susceptible. An unfitted vehicle is little more than a weak hull. Base HP does not make a vehicle powerful. Only through fitting can a vehicle become a true threat on the battlefield.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985&find=unread Of course base hulls are weak. The Gunnlogi has 3250 base shield, and the Madrugar has 3625 base armor. Of course those will be weak if you just fit a booster/repper on them with no resistance mods at all, and they'll be even weaker if you don't have vehicle core skills to at least 4.
Nowhere in his posting does that mean hulls are going to be made any weaker when 1.5 drops. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
575
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Posted - 2013.09.08 20:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: How can you possibly construe weakening of base hulls?
Quote: Make base vehicles susceptible. An unfitted vehicle is little more than a weak hull. Base HP does not make a vehicle powerful. Only through fitting can a vehicle become a true threat on the battlefield.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985&find=unread Basically this language means that focus of the vehicle will shift over to the modules. So while hulls (IE ALL VEHICLES) may be getting nerfed, the modules are being massively buffed to make up for it. So there would be very notable differences if you slap 1 armor plate on one vehicle verses slapping 2 armor plates on and a worlds of a difference apart if you slap 3 on.
So I'm assuming that hulls price is getting reduced, but modules are going up in price? Hopefully not, we'll just have to see..... |
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