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Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.08 02:51:00 -
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The AR weapon needs some changes. I would like players to share any ideas! Lets promote ideas not down them please.
My IDEA!
- Assault Rifles should only have 2 types, breech and Normal. All AR's should have the ability to be auto or burst and the ability to add and remove a scope IN BATTLE. Similar to the scrambler charging or the laser rocking shields (laser could have a cooler ability in battle but that's another thread).
Note* the 1.5 AR is being nerfed. Range is being limited to make other weapons (scrambler and laser more effective) If you are unaware of this, please do not ask here and read other threads about the 1.5 changes to AR.
Thank you, Please share some cool ideas!!!! |
Dominus Fatali
Nox Aeterna Security
187
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Posted - 2013.09.08 02:57:00 -
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I don't think that this is a good idea, as it would require a complete reworking of the entire fitting process. In addition, the Breach would be redundant, as an 'attachment' would allow breach like firing. If this was applied, it would also need to be applied across all types of weapons, requiring months of reworking and drastically altering Dust.
However, the idea has merit; if CCP had chose to go with a modular approach to weapon variants originally, it would more than likely have been feasible. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
556
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:00:00 -
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The Plasma Rifle would be useless with anything higher than a 2x scope, and taking off anything lower than 2x would be pointless, so your idea makes no sense. Also, using burst fire in CQ is pointless, so that makes no sense either. Honestly, buff the breach's damage and ROF to make it not completely useless, and lower the range on the basic Plasma RIfle, and then get rid of the Tact. Rifle, and the Burst Plasma RIfle. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4955
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:06:00 -
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We need the combat and rail rifles released and the AR to be rebalanced to have its own strengths and weaknesses compared to the other two. Standard plasma rifle should be the best full auto but the breach, tactical, and burst need to be inferior to the rail, scrambler. Kick and dispersion need to be looked at if we're keeping the current strafe speed, hit box size, and aim assist strength. Removal of the sharpshooter skill comes to mind. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
3280
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:13:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Note* the 1.5 AR is being nerfed.
Source.
I hope it's true, but I need a source for this comment to give me my jollies. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
557
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:18:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Note* the 1.5 AR is being nerfed. Source. I hope it's true, but I need a source for this comment to give me my jollies.
It's just the tact. PR vs. the SCR |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:52:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:The Plasma Rifle would be useless with anything higher than a 2x scope, and taking off anything lower than 2x would be pointless, so your idea makes no sense. Also, using burst fire in CQ is pointless, so that makes no sense either. Honestly, buff the breach's damage and ROF to make it not completely useless, and lower the range on the basic Plasma RIfle, and then get rid of the Tact. Rifle, and the Burst Plasma RIfle.
We are not taling about Plasma Rifles - We are talking about Assault Rifles. |
calvin b
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
499
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:56:00 -
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AR nerf in 1.5, man I am tired of the nerfs. I would like to see all weapons with the ability to modify to the users like. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
179
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:11:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:The Plasma Rifle would be useless with anything higher than a 2x scope, and taking off anything lower than 2x would be pointless, so your idea makes no sense. Also, using burst fire in CQ is pointless, so that makes no sense either. Honestly, buff the breach's damage and ROF to make it not completely useless, and lower the range on the basic Plasma RIfle, and then get rid of the Tact. Rifle, and the Burst Plasma RIfle. We are not taling about Plasma Rifles - We are talking about Assault Rifles.
Plasma rifle is the current assault rifle. |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
103
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:14:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:The Plasma Rifle would be useless with anything higher than a 2x scope, and taking off anything lower than 2x would be pointless, so your idea makes no sense. Also, using burst fire in CQ is pointless, so that makes no sense either. Honestly, buff the breach's damage and ROF to make it not completely useless, and lower the range on the basic Plasma RIfle, and then get rid of the Tact. Rifle, and the Burst Plasma RIfle. We are not taling about Plasma Rifles - We are talking about Assault Rifles.
Its the same thing, the AR fires Plasma slugs not bullets |
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
307
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:18:00 -
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calvin b wrote:AR nerf in 1.5, man I am tired of the nerfs. I would like to see all weapons with the ability to modify to the users like.
Tech 3 weapons will allow this but they need to iron out the kinks first, were nearly their though the core mechanics are close to optimal!! |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1648
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:20:00 -
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Do not agree with your idea, the AR needs to have the 4 variants and not be able to switch on the fly between them, that would be too much.
The way I'd like the see the AR change is to become more like the blaster rifle it's supposed to be. Make it like a mini blaster turret. Short range, no clip, over heat (but with no feedback damage). |
TunRa
Ill Omens
141
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:25:00 -
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Why do we still have a Tac AR if the ScR IS the Tac. Wasn't that supposed to just be a place holder? |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens
League of Infamy
608
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:27:00 -
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TunRa wrote:Why do we still have a Tac AR if the ScR IS the Tac. Wasn't that supposed to just be a place holder?
Every race is going to get all 4 variants Breach, Burst, Tac and Normal but are going to have one variant that is they are better at than the others. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
646
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Posted - 2013.09.08 16:36:00 -
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The Mango strikes again.
Enjoy your AR for the rest of the month. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:49:00 -
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calvin b wrote:AR nerf in 1.5, man I am tired of the nerfs. I would like to see all weapons with the ability to modify to the users like.
Ya, it disgusts me that they are so beta still but they still will not allow players to have sp resets when they do major changes.
Anyway - Nerfs might not matte the game will be not even worth it when PS4 comes out and the other free F2P that are FINISHED PRODUCTS, come and remove all the Dust players lol |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.08 23:56:00 -
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Still - I think you make Scramblers and Laser rifles like before. But to fix the issue we had before (longer range battle became impossible to close the distance) Allowing AR player the ability to add and remove a scope would at least let them engage in combat and would not make for gimp situation we had before. Like I said the Scrambler can charge fire and the laser can smash shields so this is just the same as Scrambler charge effect.
All weapons should have a secondary ability if we can modify them.
AR - Scope option
Scrambler - Charge
Laser -
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KalOfTheRathi
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
670
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Posted - 2013.09.09 00:01:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:The AR weapon needs some changes. I would like players to share any ideas! Lets promote ideas not down them please.
My IDEA!
- Assault Rifles should only have 2 types, breech and Normal. All AR's should have the ability to be auto or burst and the ability to add and remove a scope IN BATTLE. Similar to the scrambler charging or the laser rocking shields (laser could have a cooler ability in battle but that's another thread).
Note* the 1.5 AR is being nerfed. Range is being limited to make other weapons (scrambler and laser more effective) If you are unaware of this, please do not ask here and read other threads about the 1.5 changes to AR.
Thank you, Please share some cool ideas!!!! Seriously? Every weapon has burst, assault, tactical and normal. There are some limitations but CCP (both locals) love having variations on weapon types. While I understand your position I disagree with it and suspect it has zero chance as weapon variants are important in New Eden.
Adding or removing a scope in battle is also unlikely. That would need massive support in the game and UI code. Not to mention the animation, changing the stats on the fly and would make the AR much like it is in Crysis 3. That would be an improvement granted but the software development and the art assets required to support it would be months (seriously several) of effort. Please realize that this alone makes it a bad idea. And it violates the entire method of choosing a weapon type for a particular play style or encounter. Being able to change it in game is totally inconsistent within DUST. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.10 04:59:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:[quote=Athena Sentinel]
Adding or removing a scope in battle is also unlikely. That would need massive support in the game and UI code. .
Ya, like the Scrambler charge ability did  |
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