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RA Drahcir
Psygod9
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:21:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for.
Sorry but if you use ARs, and lose a 1v1 to ANY suit within 100m, then you suck, kill yourself. |
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
134
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:25:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:And so much easier. love the HMG in tight quarters but with the big slow suit its silly to try to use in any pub matches.
but its cool I enjoy the easy mode the AR rifle offers now.
Traitor at the same time this should be the greatest endorsement for the need of an AR nerf. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
3408
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:35:00 -
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Personally I like to hide behind corners with my HMG and ambush unsuspecting reddots, the new outpost is particularly good for this, especially the area around A. |
Savage Mangler
DUST University Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2013.09.10 11:55:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Cosgar wrote:I don't think fun is the right word to describe the AR right now. im enjoying the fact I can play with new equipment since I couldn't do much with the heavy suit. and owning the poor heavies still using the hmg make me laugh
I'm sorry, but any heavy worth his clone goo isn't going to fight a guy with an AR out in the open. The smart ones play the waiting game and wait for the red dots to come them, and then they turn them into bloody perforated pieces of clone meat. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1901
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Posted - 2013.09.10 11:57:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for.
AR's have super accurate ADS fire and the recoil is basically negligible. Then again, it is an advanced space rifle.....you'd think they would figure out how to deal with recoil on such a mainstream weapon. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
356
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:02:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. AR's have super accurate ADS fire and the recoil is basically negligible. Then again, it is an advanced space rifle.....you'd think they would figure out how to deal with recoil on such a mainstream weapon.
Yeah but it also shoots searing hot balls of condensed energy from a barrel at escape velocity, no recoil reduction system gonna stop that having a kick!!
Also the shotgun with the same tech needs an armature to stop you ripping your arm off everytime you fire it!! |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1905
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:04:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. AR's have super accurate ADS fire and the recoil is basically negligible. Then again, it is an advanced space rifle.....you'd think they would figure out how to deal with recoil on such a mainstream weapon. Yeah but it also shoots searing hot balls of condensed energy from a barrel at escape velocity, no recoil reduction system gonna stop that having a kick!! Also the shotgun with the same tech needs an armature to stop you ripping your arm off everytime you fire it!!
believe me, i keep up on Dust lore
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
356
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:11:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. AR's have super accurate ADS fire and the recoil is basically negligible. Then again, it is an advanced space rifle.....you'd think they would figure out how to deal with recoil on such a mainstream weapon. Yeah but it also shoots searing hot balls of condensed energy from a barrel at escape velocity, no recoil reduction system gonna stop that having a kick!! Also the shotgun with the same tech needs an armature to stop you ripping your arm off everytime you fire it!! believe me, i keep up on Dust lore Never said you didn't Lurch, can I call you Lurch? Its just when you have a weapon like the blaster rifle (REAL NAME ) you wouldn't even bother putting recoil reduction tech in there, it would be redundant, but I would expect heavies to have less kick because of there strength and powered suit mechanics! |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3946
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:41:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. Sorry but if you use ARs, and lose a 1v1 to ANY suit within 100m, then you suck, kill yourself. AR Scout vs. Shotgun Heavy.
Fight starts at 2m range.
Post video to prove you win these encounters routinely. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
356
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:47:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. Sorry but if you use ARs, and lose a 1v1 to ANY suit within 100m, then you suck, kill yourself. AR Scout vs. Shotgun Heavy. Fight starts at 2m range. Post video to prove you win these encounters routinely.
I saw a shotgun weilding sentienel once, he bricked tanked and basically walked towards, until you died, it was like the terminator!! [Shakely lowers tea cup to saucer] ill never forget that day, never!! |
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Telleth
DUST University Ivy League
126
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:46:00 -
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I did the same a while ago, was running HMG heavy and often felt that that the SMG was more practical. Went 1v1 with another heavy, had my SMG out, he had his HMG, very close quarters, and he went down before my shields did. Between that and not being able to hit things across a small road, I just swapped to the AR. The HMG can be fun, looks sweet, but the AR just has to much versatility and can be used reliably in most every encounter. Shotgun scout at close range, spaz, spray, and pray. Heavy in the area, either get behind him or shoot him from across the street. Sniper at 75-100m, ads, strafe, and burst fire. Decent situational awareness and understanding of others' weaknesses will put you on at least a 50/50 footing vs most any other weapons. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
357
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:53:00 -
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Telleth wrote:I did the same a while ago, was running HMG heavy and often felt that that the SMG was more practical. Went 1v1 with another heavy, had my SMG out, he had his HMG, very close quarters, and he went down before my shields did. Between that and not being able to hit things across a small road, I just swapped to the AR. The HMG can be fun, looks sweet, but the AR just has to much versatility and can be used reliably in most every encounter. Shotgun scout at close range, spaz, spray, and pray. Heavy in the area, either get behind him or shoot him from across the street. Sniper at 75-100m, ads, strafe, and burst fire. Decent situational awareness and understanding of others' weaknesses will put you on at least a 50/50 footing vs most any other weapons.
Which I find is the problem, it should be 60niche/40ar the only thing is when you get the weapon out of its niche it should then be 10niche/90 ar
Jack of all trades mastef of none, doesnt really seem to apply!! |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Ancient Exiles
941
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:48:00 -
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HMG needs its damage drop off nerfed. Keep the dmg and the dispersion the same. If it did not lose so much it would be actually be capable of suppression. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4538
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Posted - 2013.09.10 14:52:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Its got to a point that my SMG feels more effective than my HMG....
It's buff time |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1153
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Posted - 2013.09.11 08:35:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Its got to a point that my SMG feels more effective than my HMG.... It's buff time
BEWARE!!! my double SMG heavy!!!!! |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9
243
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Posted - 2013.09.11 08:44:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:You're forgetting the Tac AR, which was OP cause the clip, damage, and ROF combined. I might have to try it out again cause that dps + aim assist might make it OP again even with reduced clip size.
No risk, it's not. The Scrambler is better, except for the amendable optimal range. |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
3601
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:14:00 -
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Anyone still enjoying the HMG?
AR is so much better in all situations! and you can use equipment slots for that added fun |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3792
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Posted - 2013.09.11 20:41:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Anyone still enjoying the HMG?
AR is so much better in all situations! and you can use equipment slots for that added fun
I haven't touched my heavy suit since the first day of 1.4. Having a ton of fun with my ARs and SRs man. |
Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
1226
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:19:00 -
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I've been messing around with scramblers and assault rifles on a amarr assault. I sometimes forget that I'm a heavy. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1460
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:28:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game.
Is there a weapon you haven't said this about? |
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
418
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:40:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for.
no gun has ever been tougher than an ar. |
Severus Smith
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
327
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Posted - 2013.09.11 21:56:00 -
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Savage Mangler wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:Cosgar wrote:I don't think fun is the right word to describe the AR right now. im enjoying the fact I can play with new equipment since I couldn't do much with the heavy suit. and owning the poor heavies still using the hmg make me laugh I'm sorry, but any heavy worth his clone goo isn't going to fight a guy with an AR out in the open. The smart ones play the waiting game and wait for the red dots to come them, and then they turn them into bloody perforated pieces of clone meat. Lets examine this gem of logic...
The Heavy, which is a highly armored suit built specifically to carry a powerful anti-infantry weapon. So heavy that it needs a specialized suit to wield. Needs to hide and wait for the moderately armored infantry (who is carrying a gun 1/3 the size of the Heavy's huge anti-infantry gun and is light enough to be carried by a Scout) to come to him so that he can win the engagement.
I call that a bit broken. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4553
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Posted - 2013.09.12 01:29:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Anyone still enjoying the HMG?
AR is so much better in all situations! and you can use equipment slots for that added fun
I will all ways enjoy HMG, Melting everything in my way |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
3619
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:49:00 -
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The GEK seems to be the go to weapon wish I would have had more points in my assault suits. |
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
915
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Posted - 2013.09.13 19:52:00 -
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But you don't get that speed boost from the HMG. lol
That frustrating moment when you KNOW you got away from a Heavy, but you still get killed anyway.
"How come heavies always move faster when they are shooting their HMGs?" |
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