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Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:39:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for.
While this is a true statement, lets look at the weapons that have been accused of op ness, correctly or not!!
LR -people had a problem that it could do to much damage!!
However consider the fact that damage amps up over time, this makes "chop strafing" useless because for every sec you out of the beam if the user builds up heat negating your sidestepping when your caught in the beam!!
SL -people claimed it was undodgeable aoe weapon
MD - People claimed it was undodgeable aoe weapon
FL - Same again
AA - Thevaim assist moves your barrel approximately 1m before slipping of, however if the target chop strafes, the move back in to the stick zone, meaning the gun tracjs someone who chop strafes perfectly without user input!!
I think ccp purposely put the stick in to stop chop strafing, look at the example pretty much every weapon deemed op nulifies chop strafing!!
COINCIDENCE?? I THINK NOT!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:50:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:You're forgetting the Tac AR, which was OP cause the clip, damage, and ROF combined. I might have to try it out again cause that dps + aim assist might make it OP again even with reduced clip size.
True, but there always outliers, look at the pattern though most supposedly op weapons are aoe, or anti-chop strafing!! |
Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2013.09.09 13:18:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. Grenade launchers are fun. Stingers are fun. Explosives pistols are fun. I wont use an assault rifle unless its Russian because everything else is so damn boring. I don't care how easy it is to use as long as its fun mass drivers swarms and flay pistols=fun. Crappy sucky assault rifles=boring tryhard weapons. Btw im American so don't try that commie crap on me. You are having problem with communist, comrade? No I was just saying that these idiots better not pull stuff out of their rear simply because I said I love Russia. Also to the few ignorant people out there the Soviet union fell in the 80s. So loving Russia is not loving communism.
I'm have no problem with russians, some of my best mates are russian, butnwhen that russian bear flew into my airspace a few years back, that sent shivefs down my spine man!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:02:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. AR's have super accurate ADS fire and the recoil is basically negligible. Then again, it is an advanced space rifle.....you'd think they would figure out how to deal with recoil on such a mainstream weapon.
Yeah but it also shoots searing hot balls of condensed energy from a barrel at escape velocity, no recoil reduction system gonna stop that having a kick!!
Also the shotgun with the same tech needs an armature to stop you ripping your arm off everytime you fire it!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:11:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. AR's have super accurate ADS fire and the recoil is basically negligible. Then again, it is an advanced space rifle.....you'd think they would figure out how to deal with recoil on such a mainstream weapon. Yeah but it also shoots searing hot balls of condensed energy from a barrel at escape velocity, no recoil reduction system gonna stop that having a kick!! Also the shotgun with the same tech needs an armature to stop you ripping your arm off everytime you fire it!! believe me, i keep up on Dust lore
Never said you didn't Lurch, can I call you Lurch? Its just when you have a weapon like the blaster rifle (REAL NAME  ) you wouldn't even bother putting recoil reduction tech in there, it would be redundant, but I would expect heavies to have less kick because of there strength and powered suit mechanics! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.10 12:47:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:AR's have always been easy mode in comparison to every other weapon in the game. I thought it was Mass Drivers? And before that Flaylocks... And Grenades... Or was it Swarm Launchers? Wait... Maybe it was Forge Guns? Every gun is easy if you're good with it and know what situations it's best for. Sorry but if you use ARs, and lose a 1v1 to ANY suit within 100m, then you suck, kill yourself. AR Scout vs. Shotgun Heavy. Fight starts at 2m range. Post video to prove you win these encounters routinely.
I saw a shotgun weilding sentienel once, he bricked tanked and basically walked towards, until you died, it was like the terminator!! [Shakely lowers tea cup to saucer] ill never forget that day, never!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:53:00 -
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Telleth wrote:I did the same a while ago, was running HMG heavy and often felt that that the SMG was more practical. Went 1v1 with another heavy, had my SMG out, he had his HMG, very close quarters, and he went down before my shields did. Between that and not being able to hit things across a small road, I just swapped to the AR. The HMG can be fun, looks sweet, but the AR just has to much versatility and can be used reliably in most every encounter. Shotgun scout at close range, spaz, spray, and pray. Heavy in the area, either get behind him or shoot him from across the street. Sniper at 75-100m, ads, strafe, and burst fire. Decent situational awareness and understanding of others' weaknesses will put you on at least a 50/50 footing vs most any other weapons.
Which I find is the problem, it should be 60niche/40ar the only thing is when you get the weapon out of its niche it should then be 10niche/90 ar
Jack of all trades mastef of none, doesnt really seem to apply!! |
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