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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.07 21:06:00 -
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I was looking through general dupiscussion and found a thread that had a link to this artists creations.
After flipping through some of the artwork at the topi found this pic of what looks like a heavy aircraft bomber.
Please use this design!!!!!
Also, look through some other pieces of his, he's an amazing artist and has some cool looking stuff that would make Dust awesome!!!!! |
501st Headstrong
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.09.07 22:48:00 -
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Indeed! Do you have any ideas for its function however? How would it defend itself from Dropships and the upcoming Fighters? How much life will it have? Will it be able to take on an Orbital? How many people pilot it? |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:49:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Indeed! Do you have any ideas for its function however? How would it defend itself from Dropships and the upcoming Fighters? How much life will it have? Will it be able to take on an Orbital? How many people pilot it?
Ummm I'm going to say
1. Bomber or heavy air support....or even a mega troop transport
2.turrets on top, bottom, and sides (front sides as there are thrusters in the rear)
3. At least the same armour as a tank
4.ummmm probably not a full orbital
5. One pilot, one copilot (to operate the bombing etc)
EDIT: stupid iOS autocorrect |
Synbot
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.07 23:50:00 -
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Looks sexy
Throw in some stats on it ;) |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:05:00 -
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I would honestly spend millions on purchasing this awesome looking beast of the sky  |
Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:37:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Indeed! Do you have any ideas for its function however? How would it defend itself from Dropships and the upcoming Fighters? How much life will it have? Will it be able to take on an Orbital? How many people pilot it? Ummm I'm going to say 1. Bomber or heavy air support....or even a mega troop transport 2.turrets on top, bottom, and sides (front sides as there are thrusters in the rear) 3. At least the same armour as a tank 4.ummmm probably not a full orbital 5. One pilot, one copilot (to operate the bombing etc) EDIT: stupid iOS autocorrect
The Assault DS should be able to shoot it out of the sky. Think of it as a B-52 V a Fighter Jet. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:41:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Indeed! Do you have any ideas for its function however? How would it defend itself from Dropships and the upcoming Fighters? How much life will it have? Will it be able to take on an Orbital? How many people pilot it? Ummm I'm going to say 1. Bomber or heavy air support....or even a mega troop transport 2.turrets on top, bottom, and sides (front sides as there are thrusters in the rear) 3. At least the same armour as a tank 4.ummmm probably not a full orbital 5. One pilot, one copilot (to operate the bombing etc) EDIT: stupid iOS autocorrect The Assault DS should be able to shoot it out of the sky. Think of it as a B-52 V a Fighter Jet.
The assault dropship can't even destroy a tank (believe my it took my incubus, and 2 forge gunners to wreck a Madrugar) |
Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:48:00 -
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It can't destroy a tank because it has a small turret. It's like an LAV shooting at a tank. I honestly believe that there should be a version of the assault with a very low HP and limited slots, but with a large turret. Or, they could add a medium turret for DS only... |
Callsign Tailsman
BlackList Flight Group
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:48:00 -
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really i dropship should have the same flight ceiling as a bomber or fighter dropships are trasport thats it and the bomber would have so sort of cloak to protect against fighters. its a flying tank basically |
Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:51:00 -
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Callsign Tailsman wrote:really i dropship should have the same flight ceiling as a bomber or fighter dropships are trasport thats it and the bomber would have so sort of cloak to protect against fighters. its a flying tank basically
No no no. Everything must have a weakness. With bombers, it should be assault dropships. |
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General Erick
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:59:00 -
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Take my SP! |
Callsign Tailsman
BlackList Flight Group
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Posted - 2013.09.08 00:59:00 -
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th dropship makes no sense it should reach the height of the bomber. you dont see troop transport ex. blackhawks or huey helicopters flying and taking out bombers. simply cause the flight ceiling is way different. the only thing that would have the same flight ceiling is a fighter but even then you would have to have line of sight. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:01:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:Callsign Tailsman wrote:really i dropship should have the same flight ceiling as a bomber or fighter dropships are trasport thats it and the bomber would have so sort of cloak to protect against fighters. its a flying tank basically No no no. Everything must have a weakness. With bombers, it should be assault dropships.
No with bombers it would be speed and maneuverability, slow, and turns like a drunk snail, that's how it should fly |
Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:02:00 -
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Callsign Tailsman wrote:th dropship makes no sense it should reach the height of the bomber. you dont see troop transport ex. blackhawks or huey helicopters flying and taking out bombers. simply cause the flight ceiling is way different. the only thing that would have the same flight ceiling is a fighter but even then you would have to have line of sight.
The Assault DS should have absolute Air Superiority. The bomber should only have one seat. No turrets, devastating effects. The normal DS has more troop capacity than both of them, but it has little protection. This is how I believe it should be. |
Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:04:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Bone Scratcher wrote:Callsign Tailsman wrote:really i dropship should have the same flight ceiling as a bomber or fighter dropships are trasport thats it and the bomber would have so sort of cloak to protect against fighters. its a flying tank basically No no no. Everything must have a weakness. With bombers, it should be assault dropships. No with bombers it would be speed and maneuverability, slow, and turns like a drunk snail, that's how it should fly
That should also be in place, but it needs to be able to be taken out by the assault DS, so that they have something besides infantry hunting. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:05:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:Callsign Tailsman wrote:th dropship makes no sense it should reach the height of the bomber. you dont see troop transport ex. blackhawks or huey helicopters flying and taking out bombers. simply cause the flight ceiling is way different. the only thing that would have the same flight ceiling is a fighter but even then you would have to have line of sight. The Assault DS should have absolute Air Superiority. The bomber should only have one seat. No turrets, devastating effects. The normal DS has more troop capacity than both of them, but it has little protection. This is how I believe it should be.
Ok, the assault dropship is like an apache chopper, prometheus dropships are like Blackhawks. We are getting jets in the future and we are getting heavy aircraft, I want the heavy aircraft to look like the pic. That is all. |
Callsign Tailsman
BlackList Flight Group
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:06:00 -
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you on something. a dropship is troop transport. a bomber is well a bomber. the fighters combat every air unit the fighter is control. a fighter will always have control. |
Furui
DUST University
Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:46:00 -
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Well, the simply truth is that.....THAT SHOULD HAVE BOMBING CAPABILITIES! (ahem)
Although the bombing capabilities would have to be limited but converting it into a transport ship for the whole Team would be nice for PC battles and what not. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.08 01:49:00 -
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Furui wrote:Well, the simply truth is that.....THAT SHOULD HAVE BOMBING CAPABILITIES! (ahem)
Although the bombing capabilities would have to be limited but converting it into a transport ship for the whole Team would be nice for PC battles and what not.
Agreed, this should be the bomber of dust |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.09.08 02:23:00 -
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I can taste the infantry tears now lol. |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:15:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Indeed! Do you have any ideas for its function however? How would it defend itself from Dropships and the upcoming Fighters? How much life will it have? Will it be able to take on an Orbital? How many people pilot it? Ummm I'm going to say 1. Bomber or heavy air support....or even a mega troop transport 2.turrets on top, bottom, and sides (front sides as there are thrusters in the rear) 3. At least the same armour as a tank 4.ummmm probably not a full orbital 5. One pilot, one copilot (to operate the bombing etc) EDIT: stupid iOS autocorrect
1: I agree
2: Also agree
3: Hell no. It ******* flys, and it'll be way easier for it to hit top speed than the DS's, and if it's around the same speed (which is 2500 km/hr), it'll never die.
4: It won't get hit by a OB, as it's going too fast.
5: Just the pilot is better. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:17:00 -
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thats looks very similar to a pelican dropship from halo.. |
Hunter Junko
Zanzibar Concept
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Posted - 2013.09.08 03:43:00 -
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my version of the heavy aircraft? air- to ground support.
Now i'd hate to reference any others games to bring in a few points but....
battlefield 3 EndGame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TacHw02WKe0 (watch for the first 4 minutes, it shows what i hope to convey
(Disclaimer: this video is solely for the purpose of giving a view on how a heavy aircraft would exist in dust. the poster acknowledges that this idea may take time to bring to fruition given CCP's ongoing Development into Dust 514 )
the heavy aircraft is designed for 3 man-crew:
the pilot and co-pilot.
(Reasons: the aircraft is huge, and thus special care must be taken to avoid stalling or even crashing the H.A. as its primary weakness is its slow speed. one pilot should focus on flying the aircraft, while the co-pilot manages the modules needed to maintain the H.A's flight.
The A-A and/or A-G Gunner.
The H.A may specialize in Anti-aircraft weaponry or Air to ground operations.
it cannot be both at the same time, or it can be none of them, the logistics version can serve as a mobile supply depot/ to restock and repair friendly aircraft, or a communications replay, strengthening infantry Tac-net comms, essentially becoming "Eyes" for the whole team.
Heavy attack aircraft should turn by a ******* city, not by a dime. this is its greatest weakness, making it vulnerable to all forms of AV weaponry and fighter aircraft, including assault dropships.
but its greatest strength is it's robust health and Countermeasure attachments, should they be implemented. it will take longer to destroy the heavy aircraft but it can only survive if a co-pilot is managing the modules.
WP accrual should be divided by the 3 man crew manning the H.A. this means that a 60+ WP for example becomes 20 to all three crewman. reason behind this is that everyone in the H.A is working together to contribute to the war effort. no one person can take the credit for the contribution.
its all i have for now, but i'll edit the post as time passes or create a different thread for this idea.
thank you for your time,
Safe hunting
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:14:00 -
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That's actually what the light Caldari air vehicle will kinda look like. |
forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
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Posted - 2013.09.08 06:29:00 -
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fighting a bomber would be interesting
Fire of Prometheus wrote:The assault dropship can't even destroy a tank (believe my it took my incubus, and 2 forge gunners to wreck a Madrugar)
and pfft, I don't know what planet you fight on, But I eat tanks for breakfast :P |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.08 14:22:00 -
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forteXVI wrote:fighting a bomber would be interesting Fire of Prometheus wrote:The assault dropship can't even destroy a tank (believe my it took my incubus, and 2 forge gunners to wreck a Madrugar) and pfft, I don't know what planet you fight on, But I eat tanks for breakfast :P
Lol it was a hectic battle, I had swarms coming at me left right and centre.....I had to do lots of strafing runs to wreck that sucker |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.08 14:25:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:501st Headstrong wrote:Indeed! Do you have any ideas for its function however? How would it defend itself from Dropships and the upcoming Fighters? How much life will it have? Will it be able to take on an Orbital? How many people pilot it? Ummm I'm going to say 1. Bomber or heavy air support....or even a mega troop transport 2.turrets on top, bottom, and sides (front sides as there are thrusters in the rear) 3. At least the same armour as a tank 4.ummmm probably not a full orbital 5. One pilot, one copilot (to operate the bombing etc) EDIT: stupid iOS autocorrect 1: I agree 2: Also agree 3: Hell no. It ******* flys, and it'll be way easier for it to hit top speed than the DS's, and if it's around the same speed (which is 2500 km/hr), it'll never die. 4: It won't get hit by a OB, as it's going too fast. 5: Just the pilot is better.
#3 can be debated but I believe the general consensus is that it should be slower than dropships, it also going to be at least 2x the size of a dropship so it should at least have 2x the armour (or armour capability....meaning lots of slots for armour plates) |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.08 14:27:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:That's actually what the light Caldari air vehicle will kinda look like.
Agreed, I think the pic is of the heavy Caldari aircraft |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
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Posted - 2013.09.08 14:37:00 -
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I have to say it should encourage the use of a strong, diverse airforce.
The heavy aircraft/bomber is a two-three man vehicle with a little less armor than a tank. The pilot controls bombs. The bombs do massive damage, with variants including reduced damage and large blast, greater bomb storage capacity, and high damage tight blast radius. This way it can specialize in dropping vehicles, infantry, or sustained bombing runs. The other two seats are small turrets that provide limited defense against airborne targets but they cannot cover all angles. Coupling this with the aircraft's speed means that it is absolutely necessary to have fighter escorts on bombing runs. On top of this hitting an area with significant anti air defenses would be difficult without either a massive number of bombers or troops on the ground clearing any anti-air vehicles, infantry, and installations beforehand. Due to this vehicles incredible power under a strict team setting, it would have to be released when the maps are larger and teams are bigger.
EDIT: It may also be reasonable and easier to delegate the actual bomb dropping task to another crew member. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.08 14:42:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:That's actually what the light Caldari air vehicle will kinda look like. Agreed, I think the pic is of the heavy Caldari aircraft
This artist actually does do work for CCP. It's likely they saw this piece in his portfolio and drew inspiration from it for the Caldari air vehicles. |
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